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    B&W nude with P25

    I am still learning this back, but it seems to be going well. 30 minutes wasted in photoshop taught me that nudes meant for B&W have to be shot at ISO250 or above.

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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    I like this a lot. I think you've captured a special mood with this one.

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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    The high iso for adding some "grain"/noise?
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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    The high iso for adding some "grain"/noise?
    -bob
    precisely

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    isn't that easier to add yourself later? Then you have complete control.

    Sample (I left two blocks in the image untreated so you can compare):


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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    isn't that easier to add yourself later? Then you have complete control.

    Sample (I left two blocks in the image untreated so you can compare):
    we, former hope of the communist party of the soviet union, are not looking for easy ways.
    on this image it was added later since it was shot at too low of iso. if shot at iso250, i could do everything in lightroom without even converting the file.
    oh, and grain on your image looks fake :-P

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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    Communism and medium format backs seem somehow at odds to me...

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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    HI Irakly
    I hope you're well.
    I think it's a lovely shot . . . .but wouldn't it have been easier using the M8?

    Just this guy you know

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    HI Irakly
    I hope you're well.
    I think it's a lovely shot . . . .but wouldn't it have been easier using the M8?
    in cased you missed it Jono.

    "we, former hope of the communist party of the soviet union, are not looking for easy ways."

    david

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    Quote Originally Posted by irakly View Post
    oh, and grain on your image looks fake :-P
    Well you can change the layer of the opacity to suit yourself. By the way, it shouldn't look fake - it's a scan of real film grain overlayed

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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    here is a good idea for both of you - if you want the film look - shoot film - yeah thats a radical thought I know.

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    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    ...it's a scan of real film grain overlayed
    So why didn't the guy wipe off the sand he's got on his face?
    Just kidding man, hi everybody.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PeterA View Post
    here is a good idea for both of you - if you want the film look - shoot film - yeah thats a radical thought I know.
    Everyone knows about the digital advantages already. If you add film grain in post, you can choose later how much you want, how large the grains, how strong the effect, the contrast, etc. It's still easier and faster than shooting film.

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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    Everyone knows about the digital advantages already. If you add film grain in post, you can choose later how much you want, how large the grains, how strong the effect, the contrast, etc. It's still easier and faster than shooting film.
    But isn't Peter right? If indeed "we are not looking for the easy way out," then there is the real thing ... film.

    Tri-X 320 Pro will deliver it in spades ... the randomness of grain, without laying that random grain over regimented pixels.

    I submit that we ARE looking for the easy way out, and let's just admit it.

    So, then we can work on ways to make beautiful B&W images with digital capture, and stop trying to emulate film ... because it ain't gonna happen. Once we stop that, maybe we can move on to new horizons in B&W expression.

    London, Leica M6, Tri-X rated @ 320.
    Last edited by fotografz; 23rd July 2008 at 02:28.

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    Marc,
    That's a great photo. Makes me want to go out and shoot some film, but I know the feeling will pass if I give it some time. I do what Graham does, add a layer of grain to my images to give them a bit of structure, or whatever.

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    Re: B&W nude with P25

    Great light irakly. Always love to see your Contax 645 in action.
    ALPA (MAX, STC, TC) | CAMBO (Actus DB2, WRS-AE) | CONTAX | HASSELBLAD | LEICA | DB (CFV-16, CFV-39, IQ180, IQ360, IQ3100, P45+) | Lens (Canon, Fujinon, Leica, Nikon, Pentax, Rodenstock, Schneider, Zeiss)

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