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    MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Is it possible to shoot MFDB tethered to Apple IPhone?

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Why?

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Why?
    To preview image on a bigger, high resolution display.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    To preview image on a bigger, high resolution display.
    Really? The screen on my Hasselblad is already as big or bigger as on my iPhone. The Aptus LCD screen is even bigger.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    The only real way to do this is the backs need to generate a small jpeg for viewing. But not sure i see much of a advantage except if you have a art director standing next to you in some cases but you can do it better with a laptop. Some folks use 7 inch monitors attached to there backs and some hook up to 60 inch plasma's in the studio. I would rather see a viewer that actually backed up your CF card when shooting . So as you shot it goes to both places like a Epson 5000 or something like that , to me that makes more sense. Plus have a 4 inch viewing device as they come in or review on a break in the field
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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Yeah...too bad the MacBook Air does not have a FW connection. That would make for a nice, portable mini-viewer that could also store some files (not many), and still provide some correction or profiles for viewing through some apps.

    I agree with Marc that the new LCDs on the newer backs is plenty large enough for the kind of viewing suggested. Also agree with Guy....if you need to see it bigger, send it to a laptop or a connected monitor.

    While the iPhone has some really great capabilities that will continue to evolve, and the screen is pretty decent, and more folks are having them, if your work requires sharing shots on location with a client, use a set-up that provides decent enhancement and display. If for personal use, the LCDs are better than the iPhone already. If just wanting to share with others, something like the Epson viewer would be nice and provide some back-up storage.

    Just because some of our latest devices are cool and useful, does not mean we should be expecting to do everything through them ;-) Any images on the iPhone are going to be reduced, compressed JPEGs anyway. There is the "advantage" of being able to enlarge them to some degree, but the LCDs on the backs do a better job of that already, I think.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

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    Sinar MFDBs require Mac OS. The smallest MacBook is 13" and 5lb (2.3kg). What smaller devices can be used with Sinarbacks, in particular 54 series back (which has no display, work only tethered)?
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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    I'm not sure on the Sinar stuff maybe Thierry has some idea's on this also. I think a lot depends on what the camera's ports are for outputting. This maybe a interesting thing to talk about on viewing devices.
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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    Guy,LJ,fotografz
    Sinar MFDBs require Mac OS. The smallest MacBook is 13" and 5lb (2.3kg). What smaller devices can be used with Sinarbacks, in particular 54 series back (which has no display, work only tethered)?
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    Evgeny,
    The MacBook Air runs Mac OS X, and weighs in at 3lb, with a 13.3" screen, plus being very thin and portable. The problem may be how to tether to it (USB2 only for the MacBook Air, or wireless). As a portable view device, it may be excellent, but it may not have enough storage for some uses, and there still is the issue of tethering to it. Shooting to a card and then downloading is possible, but that is not tethered shooting.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    The Mac Book Pro has Firewire 400 and 800 built into it. Plus a much bigger hard drive and up to 4gbs of ram. i would recommend this over anything else for the power and space alone. IF in the studio than going to a Mac Pro Desktop work station with outputs to big monitors and such
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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    I agree that the MacBook Pro would be the way to go for all sorts of reasons. However, if one was looking for something smaller and lighter than even the 15" MBP, there are not a lot of choices, especially if one needs FW for power and tethering.

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    Evgeny,

    Sinar eXposure for Windows is planed to be released in July, a complete and the same version as the Mac OS version.

    - A smaller Mac version could be a Mac Mini and an adequate screen:

    1.83GHz or 2.0GHz Intel Core 2 Duo processor
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    iLife ’08, Mac OS X v10.5 Leopard

    http://www.apple.com/macmini/

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    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    Guy,LJ,fotografz
    Sinar MFDBs require Mac OS. The smallest MacBook is 13" and 5lb (2.3kg). What smaller devices can be used with Sinarbacks, in particular 54 series back (which has no display, work only tethered)?
    Thank.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    Evgeny,

    Sinar eXposure for Windows is planed to be released in July, a complete and the same version as the Mac OS version.
    I think this is the answer. There are many mini laptops available running Windows. The only limitations could be that Exposure (and other tethering software) requires a minimum screen resolution to work.


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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Is there no video out on these backs? (please pardon my ignorance!)
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    Graham and Thierry,
    The Windows solution may be welcomed by many. Question: Is tethering going to require FireWire as it does for Mac OS X, and if so how will the Windows PCs manage this as most FW for them is 4-pin (not powered)? Or, will USB2 become a tethering option for the backs? What about power?

    LJ

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    Ben,

    Many of the backs have Firewire ports not "video out", but the MacBook Air does not have FW ports. The MacBook and MacBook Pro have FW. And the small devices like the Epson has no FW in. It's an interface issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    Evgeny,

    Sinar eXposure for Windows is planed to be released in July, a complete and the same version as the Mac OS version.

    - A smaller Mac version could be a Mac Mini and an adequate screen:

    http://www.apple.com/macmini/

    Best regards,
    Thierry
    Thierry, I think this is not portable mac for outdoors shooting.
    Thank

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    I don't do much tethered shooting but in terms of working with files, i.e. conversions and adjustments I've found 2GB RAM on my older MacBook Pro doesn't really do the trick for me. Might be different if the laptop were dedicated for that purpose which mine isn't. The new models can take 4GB RAM which should be more than adequate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LJL View Post
    Graham and Thierry,
    The Windows solution may be welcomed by many. Question: Is tethering going to require FireWire as it does for Mac OS X, and if so how will the Windows PCs manage this as most FW for them is 4-pin (not powered)? Or, will USB2 become a tethering option for the backs? What about power?

    LJ
    Yes, full Firewire will be required.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJNY View Post
    And it supports FW400 (one port), so you will get power for tethering. This is an interesting package, and could be fit with a bigger drive and more RAM to really beef it up. However, at the price, the MacBook Pro is not looking to be ruled out either, and may be able to do a lot more, plus have a nice hood fitted for outdoor use. Nice to have some options.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    I'm surprised nobody mentioned the basic Macbook. It has everything needed in a small cheap package.

    http://www.apple.com/macbook/specs.html

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    I actually look at this machine http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Notebook.html

    I think it provides a good compromise of performance and price.

    Do I need anything more to work tethered with Sinar 54M ???

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    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    I actually look at this machine http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Notebook.html

    I think it provides a good compromise of performance and price.

    Do I need anything more to work tethered with Sinar 54M ???
    You can save another $115 by going with the following:

    Amazon has this which has the same specs as the BH system except 2gb ram instead of 4gb of ram but is the black color case for $1398 after rebate.

    http://www.amazon.com/Apple-MacBook-...3314989&sr=8-2

    And then you can buy 2 of these to get 4gb ram for $42.99 * 2:

    http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16820208323

    Total price is $1484 - you also have the option of holding out on the RAM to see if the 2gb it comes with is enough for what you are doing and possibly save there as well.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Oh, and one more option to save another $100 is to pick up a refurb for $1299 via the Apple store. They have the same warranty as new. I've purchased refurbs before and they've been pretty much like new.

    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...nplm=FB404LL/A

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    yes, I realize this, was not meant for outdoor, just an idea for limited budgets, starts at less than Euro 400.-

    Thierry

    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    Thierry, I think this is not portable mac for outdoors shooting.
    Thank

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Nothing more/special needed to tether a Sinarback, except a FW 400 cable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    I actually look at this machine http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc..._Notebook.html

    I think it provides a good compromise of performance and price.

    Do I need anything more to work tethered with Sinar 54M ???

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    Thierry, thank!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Seitz View Post
    Oh, and one more option to save another $100 is to pick up a refurb for $1299 via the Apple store. They have the same warranty as new. I've purchased refurbs before and they've been pretty much like new.

    http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APPL...nplm=FB404LL/A

    Greg, looks great, thank you, but it seems that Apple web side doesn't recognize addresses outside the USA and I cannot continue from registration to checkout.

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    If you watch the WWDC video on Apple's website there are many new apps being developed for the iPhone. This one could be a pretty trivial application but will someone make it is the question. Apple demos the process of creating an app (overview) in the video.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Even if someone wrote the software, I can't imagine that the performance on the iPhone would be nearly good enough to handle such large raw files and generate previews.

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    Re: MFDB tethered to IPhone?

    Quote Originally Posted by evgeny View Post
    Greg, looks great, thank you, but it seems that Apple web side doesn't recognize addresses outside the USA and I cannot continue from registration to checkout.
    You have to go to the apple store for the country you reside in. Once you get there, you will see they do not have the same refurb offers as the USA store.

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