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    No sorry, I have mislead here, my very fault!

    The 45 prism finder IS the same as the one used on the 6008, BUT has a slight modification to fit and mount the Hy6. However, it NEEDS to be "scalloped" as seen in the shots posted by Billy, to allow rotation of the revolving adapter.

    Hope it is clear.

    Thierry

    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell View Post
    Thierry,

    Do I understand you correctly? My 45 degree 6008 prism will fit a Hy6 (without revolving adapter) with no modification? I thought the mount was different and needed to be sent to Rollei for modification.

    Good news if true.

    Bradley,

    Nice shots. I'm getting a test drive on Hy6 and Hasselblad in July.

    Thanks,

    Mitchell

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    Brad,

    let me know if you wish an original one, from Sinar.

    Thierry

    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    It's from my Phase One / Hassy V mount. Because I purchased my Sinar back and Hy6 separately, neither seller gave me masks. I figured my Phase One Hassy V screens might work--they're 6x6 screens, but the Phase chip is slightly larger (49.1x36.8mm as opposed to 48x36mm). I just installed it today--I imagine it'll be off a bit, but we'll see (better than nothing, and that's what I shot with on Friday! Whoops!)

    Any Phase dealer should have these. Let me know if you can't find any but would like one--I have a few and can send one to you if you'd like.

    -Brad

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    Re: Whoo hoo!! At long last, my Hy6 has arrived!

    never mind the camera porn.... those are excellent industrial shots! you have more?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    No sorry, I have mislead here, my very fault!

    The 45 prism finder IS the same as the one used on the 6008, BUT has a slight modification to fit and mount the Hy6. However, it NEEDS to be "scalloped" as seen in the shots posted by Billy, to allow rotation of the revolving adapter.

    Hope it is clear.

    Thierry

    Thanks Thierry,

    Any word on how long the modification would take? Does it have to go to Germany, or can it be done in the US?

    Best,

    Mitchell

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mitchell
    Nice shots. I'm getting a test drive on Hy6 and Hasselblad in July.
    Thanks, Mitchell. Enjoy your test drives of both systems. I don't know what kind of work you do, but I'd be interested in your impressions of both. I hope you get to spend some time with each system. More time with each system would have gotten me to my ideal solution for me far more quickly.

    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    That's a lovely (and very expensive looking) piece of kit Brad. I hear ya on the color though I don't know why they chose that. Colorblind industrial designers?
    I had a similar thought!

    Quote Originally Posted by Rethmeier
    Why does it have to be black?
    It least it doesn't look like anything else(Blad,Mamiya etc)
    But to be honest,I would have preferred mine to be black or dark grey for that matter.
    Agreed-Black & dark grey would be just fine--as long as it's classy, discreet and neutral.

    Quote Originally Posted by JimCollum
    never mind the camera porn.... those are excellent industrial shots! you have more?
    Thank you, Jim! That's just about it from Friday's shoot. I have a few more variations on a theme, but nothing worthy, IMHO. The last photograph in the series was the last image I shot--I was getting into the groove, the light was getting even more directional, and, you guessed it, no more battery.

    I'd been having trouble charging that particular battery, so I'm pretty sure it's the battery's fault, but I'll use a fully charged battery that came with the camera next time to be sure. And yes, I'll be going back soon.

    Thank you for the support, everyone.

    Take care,
    Brad
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    Brad, nice to see you getting good stuff out of the box. Speaking of batteries, etc. I picked up this charger which I prefer to the one that comes with the kit. Charges two batteries at once and is a bit easier to travel with.

    http://www.amazon.com/Sony-BCV500-Ba.../dp/B000063XJ3

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    ...or if you don't need it to be so compact, you can get a second charger same as the Sinar standard charger for only $14: http://www.easy-battery.com/battery-...ny-np-f550.php

    Even cheaper on ebay.
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    Brad may need to condition the battery. Drain it down to nothing until it is dead than recharge overnight. If that don't work it could be a faulty battery
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    Thanks, guys!

    -Brad

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    Hello all,
    I really enjoyed Brad's pictures with his new Hy6, since they give such a great overview of all the different lenses. You couldn't find better examples anywhere I think! I can also sooo understand his excitement, as I was in the same position: waiting about 6 years for digital and camera development to bring along something great like the Hy6. It was also an easier decision because I had a secret love affair with the Schneider/Zeiss lenses for a long while...

    I opted for the Rolleiflex Hy6 because I couldn't get the parts for the analogue SINAR version together in NYC. Anyway, there is no real difference between them, so what the heck, right? (Pictures here of my camera were also posted on other sites, so you might have seen them already)






    Can't afford the 75LV, except to rent it, but will be getting the 54LV in the fall. Hope to wait it out and save to upgrade to further SINAR digital back developments in a couple of years. Anyway, I will ALWAYS still shoot film also in parallel.

    Hey Thierry, by the way: if I buy the 45 prism from SINAR for my Rollei Hy6, the badge name will change to SINAR....Will SINAR charge me for another camera body as well

    I really hope the Hy6 community grows and grows, and that we can continue to share tips and tricks online as digital developments continue. The more the merrier as they say!
    Ciao tutti,
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    Ciao Theodore, and welcome to the forum as I see this is your first post. It's nice to see the MF group growing and it appears that the Hy6 format is gaining in popularity. I also like these candid kit shots... first time I've seen the film magazine on this body. Those red buttons are pretty sharp looking

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    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    Ciao Theodore, and welcome to the forum as I see this is your first post. It's nice to see the MF group growing and it appears that the Hy6 format is gaining in popularity. I also like these candid kit shots... first time I've seen the film magazine on this body. Those red buttons are pretty sharp looking
    Thanks David,
    Yes, when I got it in April, the dealers didn't even know how to use any buttons, red or otherwise (even with the price tag of 5 digits!!!) and even told me the film cassette couldn't change position So I ended up finding this all out by myself. Rolleiflex were kind enough to send a film mask for the viewfinder, which wasn't in the package. And there were no complete instruction included, just a quicky user's guide. So I ended up using the SINAR Hy6 PDF (thank you Internet) for getting to some extra menus. But I guess that is part of being a Hy6 pioneer
    Ciao,
    Theo

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    Ciao Theo!

    Quote Originally Posted by Theo View Post
    Hello all,
    Can't afford the 75LV, except to rent it, but will be getting the 54LV in the fall. Hope to wait it out and save to upgrade to further SINAR digital back developments in a couple of years. Anyway, I will ALWAYS still shoot film also in parallel.
    Should you not need the live video function, when tethered, there is a eMotion 75 non-LV and which costs about Euro 2'000.- less than the e75 LV.
    This FYI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Theo View Post
    Hey Thierry, by the way: if I buy the 45 prism from SINAR for my Rollei Hy6, the badge name will change to SINAR....Will SINAR charge me for another camera body as well
    Theodore
    Yes, the badge name will be Sinar.

    And yes, of course, we charge for another camera body, if not bought from us!


    Best regards,
    Thierry

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    Welcome, Theo!

    I haven't seen the film kit either, very nice!!

    Do you plan to stay 645 or go 6x6 when the film back is ready?

    -Brad

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    I am thinking of getting the 6x6 film back but haven't decided yet. I'm afraid to ask how much they will cost.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    Welcome, Theo!

    I haven't seen the film kit either, very nice!!

    Do you plan to stay 645 or go 6x6 when the film back is ready?

    -Brad
    Hi Brad,
    For sure, I will buy the 6x6 when it comes, I actually can't wait..I am in the process of re-discovering film in MF after a life in 35mm! The 6x6 film back, compared to the 75 LV you have, shouldn't break the bank

    I got hold of the last batch of AGFA Scala (my absolute favorite- have about 150 rolls in my freezer in between the steaks + vegetables), and when you see that film developed, digital still has a ways to go! But that's mostly for art stuff; for production use it just takes way too much time. I think in the next 5-8 years, digital is really going to get a lot better still. Yet I still stand by film for pictures to replace using digital and its high noise levels under bad lighting.

    P.S. Ordered the 50mm AFD. Can't wait to get it after seeing your wide shots!
    Cheers,
    Theo

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    Quote Originally Posted by Theo View Post
    Hi Brad,
    The 6x6 film back, compared to the 75 LV you have, shouldn't break the bank

    Cheers,
    Theo
    Theo, you are right... with film you should be good with just parking meters!!!

    Seriously, both of you made excellent choices I just wish Phase would come up with the solution...... even though I heard they already did, I can't motivate myself further based on that alone until I see it!!!

    I wish SINAR would at least make long exposure available on 75 LV or Bigger Screen......, perhaps both would be the best

    Thierry, any news/updates about SINAR at Photokina, I heard few things but I
    thought I better ask????

    BTW: Brad, very nice images

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    Theo, if I get that 6x6 film back I'll be expecting a refrigerated package from you We all know MF digital isn't for the faint of heart but when I look at my new 45 degree prism and think that it cost more than my Mamiyz RZ Pro IID with a lens or two...

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    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    Theo, if I get that 6x6 film back I'll be expecting a refrigerated package from you We all know MF digital isn't for the faint of heart but when I look at my new 45 degree prism and think that it cost more than my Mamiyz RZ Pro IID with a lens or two...
    David, you are so right about the costs. And if you do get a 6x6 back I'll dig out some rolls from between the frozen peas for you

    The only positive side about all the costs (I hope !!) are the long-term benefits.

    With both film & digital areas covered, I am hoping (as you are also I guess) that we will be 'covered' for a good long number of years....Although as the backs get even more advanced we will still be dishing out more $$$$$

    But like cars i think: trade in the old one towards a new one, pay the difference. Still better than having to get a whole new body each time AND a back to boot! And most important, the continuity of the glass, the biggest investment, is insured.
    Cheers,
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    Hi, Theo,

    Looking forward to see some results from your 50! Also whenever it does come out, I'd like to hear your impressions on the 6060 back. It's definitely intriguing!

    Natasa, thank you! Yes, I'd like to see the Hy6 open up as well--I feel it would make all the product offerings the best they could be; I agree with you on the Sinar--long exposures and a bigger screen would be nice. I'd also like a multi-channel histogram and direct DNG output from the back--but who knows what September will bring?

    -Brad

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    September, Brad?

    Thierry

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    but who knows what September will bring?

    -Brad

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    Heck Thierry I am tired of waiting to hear what Photokinia is going to bring from all the OEM's. I'm like a kid in a candy store i just hate to wait to hear stuff. LOL

    It's a shame in a lot of ways that the Oem's just don't put out a road map of what is next ahead of time. I know all the reasons for it, no question. I just have no patience. I still have yet to be surprised for Christmas on presents .
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    Photokina 2008 (September 23-28). I look forward to any exciting goodies to be announced. Anything to tempt Guy to part with his cash!

    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    September, Brad?

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    Theo -- would you mind saying where you got the film version of the Rollei hy6? The only place I have seen that sells the body only is at Kurland photo, and it is nearly 10,000 dollars. I shoot the 6008af, so I already have the lenses and the 4560 back, so I am curious as to how much the body and 4560 adapter alone cost....either way, I will wait until the 6x6 back, but I am curious.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stuart Richardson View Post
    Theo -- would you mind saying where you got the film version of the Rollei hy6? The only place I have seen that sells the body only is at Kurland photo, and it is nearly 10,000 dollars. I shoot the 6008af, so I already have the lenses and the 4560 back, so I am curious as to how much the body and 4560 adapter alone cost....either way, I will wait until the 6x6 back, but I am curious.
    You got it: Kurland.
    It was a bit of a problem- the Rollei Hy6 kit they sold had the AF 80mm, not the AFD. I got them much lower than their list on eBay, but it went back to the $10,000 because I preferred the AFD version.

    The SINAR USA stores could not guarantee having the filmback, nor the adapter ring until after end of May or sometime in June.

    Then the SINAR prices in USA all changed, so when the SINAR dealers called me back officially, the prices were higher than originally stated by phone.

    Then no-one could guarantee if this or that was included or not in the price of the complete body, it was a nightmare. And while I would be in NY, there was exactly one SINAR body in the USA (they ALL told me this!)...

    Then buying the AFD 80mm was about $3,0000 when separately bought....Bla, bla, bla.

    Then I checked the prices in Europe- they were OUTRAGEOUS to start with, then we have 19% sales tax on top of all that as well. Phew

    So with the low Dollar/Euro etc. I ended up still saving a lot of cash by paying a premium- unbelievable as it may sound.
    However if I could have waited a month for the 4.5 back, and some weeks for the adapter, and more weeks for a separate AFD 80mm, I could have saved more perhaps...but then shipping etc. Who knows what's best in these situations.
    Hope for others it easier!
    Cheers,
    Theo
    P.S. I even have to wait more than a month for the 50mm AFD as well. But I don't mind now I have the Hy6 here.

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    Yes, it's funny. It seems like they are conspiring to PREVENT people from buying this stuff. (Yes, of course I know this is not the case, but it SEEMS like it.) It is very odd that you can't just go to a store, even a high-end store and just buy the camera and the items you need to make it work.

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