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    Whoo hoo!! At long last, my Hy6 has arrived!

    About 6 years ago I started to think seriously about moving to medium format. I'm so excited that I think I've finally arrived at the destination on this journey.

    My Hy6 arrived tonight--I've been poking and prodding it all night. My wife is laughing at me because I must look like an idiot as I jiggle the whole thing trying to see if that neck strap contraption will *really* hold (really, really) if I carry the whole thing by the strap...

    In any case, I can offer some first impressions:

    1) The camera (w/o lens or back) is ridiculously light and small. I was pretty surprised, even though I had read the specs (grams count when you're in the mountains!)

    1.5) Add a piece of glass like a 110/2 or a 180/2.8 and you are going to notice. If you're a "camera by the pound guy" (heavier camera must equal better quality, right?) grab some big glass for this bad boy--you won't be disappointed.

    2) Aside from the plasticky look & feel of the 'unlock' buttons (allowing removal of the back, finder, or movement of the handle) the build quality is superb. Nary a squeak, wiggle or other problem to be found. The fit & finish exceeds my Hasselblad H2.

    3) WLF is gorgeous.

    4) Camera and back are well-integrated. While I am not getting the lens in my metadata, I am getting shutter speed, aperture and ISO. I'd love to know what lens I used (or be able to search on such metadata), so if it's possible, may I humbly request this metadata in a future firmware release?

    5) Like every MFDB I've used, the white balance is what I'd call poor. Even small format DSLR's aren't great, but the sooner the WB sensor information gets used & recorded in the file, the sooner Sinar will jump to the head of the pack for out-of-the-box color under natural and variable light.

    6) My back didn't have firmware v5, and so I wasn't able to select "Hy6" as my body type for a few moments until I realized I must need an update. Updater was Mac only! (Did I miss the PC version?)

    7) My camera was trying to do bad things to my "half-stop-maximum aperture" 40/3.5 and 60/3.5 until I remembered Theirry mentioning the firmware update for the body fixing this issue. Updater was PC only!! (Did I miss the Mac version??)

    8) I will try to post some tasty pictures later this weekend. Everything's dark here now that I've figured out what all the buttons do...

    Happy to answer questions if folks still have any. FYI, my revolving back and upgraded "generation 2" eMotion 75LV back have not arrived yet, so I'm still using the non-revolving plate and the "generation 1" digital back.

    Have a great night everyone,
    -Brad
    Last edited by BradleyGibson; 19th June 2008 at 23:49.

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    Brad,

    Congratulations on receiving the Hy6. What a treat it must be. Thank you for sharing your "out of the box" experience. I, for one, appreciate others sharing their experiences. There's always something to learn or think about when someone posts their early observations it seems.

    I'd love to hear how you find the Hy6 to work with as you spend more time with it.

    I'll bet you're up early in the morning.

    Cheers!

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    Welcome in the family, Brad, and congratulations.

    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    5) Like every MFDB I've used, the white balance is what I'd call poor. Even small format DSLR's aren't great, but the sooner the WB sensor information gets used & recorded in the file, the sooner Sinar will jump to the head of the pack for out-of-the-box color under natural and variable light.
    Agreed, Brad. The default profiles are default ones: an average calculated from a few backs. For example, the "flash" profile is made with flash light, with a certain brand, at a certain power.
    I never use these profiles, instead a grey card or Macbeth chart. Just throw it in the first shot, and from time to time if the light is changing. That way it can be balanced later (or in-camera if you wish). You will have a perfect starting point.

    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    6) My back didn't have firmware v5, and so I wasn't able to select "Hy6" as my body type for a few moments until I realized I must need an update. Updater was Mac only! (Did I miss the PC version?)
    Only Mac version exists.

    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    7) My camera was trying to do bad things to my "half-stop-maximum aperture" 40/3.5 and 60/3.5 until I remembered Theirry mentioning the firmware update for the body fixing this issue. Updater was PC only!! (Did I miss the Mac version??)
    Mac (or PC) 2.09 version can be downloaded from our webpage (www.sinarcameras.com): login and go to "Downloads" ---> "Software

    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    8) I will try to post some tasty pictures later this weekend. Everything's dark here now that I've figured out what all the buttons do...
    OH YES!


    Best regards,
    Thierry

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    Congratulations Brad...

    I love the "my cameras arrived threads" i know i'm like a 10 year old ,but you can just feel the excitement!!

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    Congrat's Brad and I am looking forward to your pictures and impressions. The more Hy6 users we have here the better it is for the rest of those using this kit. Please pass along any tips you may discover along the way so that we can all learn more quickly.

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    Congrats Brad look forward to hearing more and seeing some great images. Keep us posted. I love the just arrived stuff too. Still waiting for some myself
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    Re: Whoo hoo!! At long last, my Hy6 has arrived!

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I love the just arrived stuff too. Still waiting for some myself
    Never would have guessed

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    I admit hitting the buy button turns me on. LOL
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Whoo hoo!! At long last, my Hy6 has arrived!

    LOL!!

    Thank you, everyone, for the warm welcome. My wife and I were planning a summit attempt of Mount Rainier this weekend, but the weather looks dangerous... As such, that leaves me with an open weekend... Gee... what to do? What to do....

    The weather down here will also be cloudy & rainy, but I'll be out shooting something, anyway. It's usually a good time for macro work, but I don't yet have a macro lens and my extension tubes haven't arrived, so I may end up doing some urban photography in Seattle--something that's a bit unusual for me, but something I definitely enjoy.

    A special thank you to Thierry who has been tirelessly supporting me, my questions, requests for raw files, etc. for going on 15 months now. It took some time to get all the answers, but in the end, I'm glad we stuck to it. It wouldn't have happened without you, Thierry! Thank you.

    Looking forward to posting photos and experiences as I get up to speed.

    Take care,
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    Bradley,

    Welcome to the club and congratulations! It looks like you are already loving this system. Good luck on your Rainier summit.

    David

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    What, no pictures of your baby? And you call yourself a photographer!
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    Haha--well I tried to bend it to take a picture of itself but I couldn't get it much past 90 degrees!!

    I'll post something salacious this weekend in hopes of redeeming myself!

    -Brad

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    For those curious how the eMotion digital backs are able to revolve with 45 prism attached.

    See the scalloped area of the prism base:

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    I ordered that prism last week and it's shipped already. I was concerned about a long delay but it turns out not to be an issue. I think I mistakenly posted that I selected the 45 degree prism in part because the image was reversed in the 90 degree version. This is NOT the case and so should not be a consideration in choosing one over the other. With regard to the revolving adapter it is important to select the correct tripod mounting plate. Prior to having my new revolving back I was using a spare Wimberley plate which worked just fine. Unfortunately, it did not provide clearance for the back to revolve which I discovered after mounting the new back. Reversing the plate solved this issue until I tried to mount my 180mm 2.8 lens and found that the flanges on that plate interfered with mounting this lens (and only this lens). You really want to be careful if your plate has flanges that it doesn't press up against the back as you tighten it down. It seems to me this could cause some damage to the back and camera. This is really a non-issue if you use the correct plate but I figured it was worth mentioning as long as we were on the subject.

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    Thanks for this feedback, David. Very interesting to know about the tripod mounting plate.

    Best regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by David K View Post
    I ordered that prism last week and it's shipped already. I was concerned about a long delay but it turns out not to be an issue. I think I mistakenly posted that I selected the 45 degree prism in part because the image was reversed in the 90 degree version. This is NOT the case and so should not be a consideration in choosing one over the other. With regard to the revolving adapter it is important to select the correct tripod mounting plate. Prior to having my new revolving back I was using a spare Wimberley plate which worked just fine. Unfortunately, it did not provide clearance for the back to revolve which I discovered after mounting the new back. Reversing the plate solved this issue until I tried to mount my 180mm 2.8 lens and found that the flanges on that plate interfered with mounting this lens (and only this lens). You really want to be careful if your plate has flanges that it doesn't press up against the back as you tighten it down. It seems to me this could cause some damage to the back and camera. This is really a non-issue if you use the correct plate but I figured it was worth mentioning as long as we were on the subject.

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    I have a Rolleiflex Hy6 version of the 45 degree prism and I would like to warn you all that it does not have the " scalloped area " as BJNY named the modified rear part of the prism.
    I do not have a revolving back yet and cannot comment on the use of the Sinar revolving adapter with the Rollei 45 degree prism.
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    Good to know, Yevgeny.
    This most likely means the base (with the scalloping/groove) is a Sinar-specific part 711.54.011
    another way Sinar is differentiating themselves,
    in addition to their interchangeable camera interface plates,
    and Hy6 revolving plate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BJNY View Post
    Good to know, Yevgeny.
    This most likely means the base (with the scalloping/groove) is a Sinar-specific part 711.54.011
    another way Sinar is differentiating themselves,
    in addition to their interchangeable camera interface plates,
    and Hy6 revolving plate.
    There are four screws on the bottom, and I think that I will try to find a good machinist locally to modify the plate as soon as I have a new revolving adapter.
    The Russian Rollei dealer is sure that I will be able to send the prism to Rollei factory for modification. I don't want to do that; it took them 4 months to repair a lens.
    Yevgeny

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    Haha--well I tried to bend it to take a picture of itself but I couldn't get it much past 90 degrees!!

    I'll post something salacious this weekend in hopes of redeeming myself!

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    For the life of me I can't understand why someone would choose the Sinar Hy6 over the Leaf AFi7. Especially after hearing all the Sinar software horror stories AND having a great experience with my Leaf 75S.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    For the life of me I can't understand why someone would choose the Sinar Hy6 over the Leaf AFi7. Especially after hearing all the Sinar software horror stories AND having a great experience with my Leaf 75S.
    Horror stories? I've been using a Sinar back for 1.5 years now. An earlier version of Captureshop was occasionally unstable but fine after a restart. That's about it. Now we have Exposure as well, and Brumbaer of course. And we can use many developers to process the DNG files. I was under the impression that Sinar software was a plus!

    Then there is the rotating adapter, interchangeable mount, etc. It's not hard to see why people choose it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    For the life of me I can't understand why someone would choose the Sinar Hy6 over the Leaf AFi7. Especially after hearing all the Sinar software horror stories AND having a great experience with my Leaf 75S.
    I haven't used either software but the advantages of the Sinar which can easily be switched between systems is a big deal for some and also the rotating back is nice. I still shoot with my 6008 AF but will upgrade sometime but was put off by the Leaf back. Big as it is I don't like the touch screen and business of the menu system.

    My real preference is a Phase back though. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    For the life of me I can't understand why someone would choose the Sinar Hy6 over the Leaf AFi7. Especially after hearing all the Sinar software horror stories AND having a great experience with my Leaf 75S.
    Doug,
    Speaking as someone who has made this change, not only from Leaf to Sinar, but from the back you are using to the Sinar, I can assure you there are a lot of very good reasons. First off, the image quality is every bit as good from my e75LV as it was with the Aptus 75S. I can only assume that this is also true of the Leaf Afi since it uses the same sensor, but I haven't tried that back so can't speak from experience. Second, the Sinar revolving adapter and changeable adapter plates are not available on the Afi. For me this was a hugely differentiating factor as I can now shoot my Hy6, Contax or Hasselblad cameras on the same back. Third, Leaf charges more money for less kit. Last time I looked the Leaf Afi was the same price as the Hy6 but it didn't come with a lens. And, speaking from memory, Leaf lenses were more costly too. With regard to software, Leaf Capture left me cold and it wasn't my choice of conversion software. Whether Exposure or Leaf Capture is better or worse is beyond my capability to evaluate but my impression is that they are pretty much in the same category. However, the Brumbaer software, which is extremely highly regarded by all that use it, is only available for Sinar files and not for Leaf. Last, but certainly not least, is the support offered by Thierry and other Sinar users right here on this forum. Nobody here uses the Afi nor do I see Leaf representatives posting here any more. Frankly, I would ask the opposite question, why would anyone buy a Leaf Afi when Sinar offers more for less money. Please don't take this as a Leaf bash, all my friends here know I loved my 75S and think the images it produces were spectacular. I'm happy to say the images you've posted show that this hasn't changed

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    OK so I stirred you guys up. I respect your viewpoint but I'd never adopt it myself. I think Leaf Capture 11 is great by the way.

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    Hi, Doug,

    If I assume the question is not rhetorical, I can provide an answer.

    Once I'd decided to go with the Hy6, it came down to Rollei, Sinar and Leaf.

    I didn't end up with the Rollei because of the weak support here in the US and the pricing set by the US distributors.

    I decided not to go with the Leaf for specific reasons, which, of course may or may not matter to others. For me:
    * the way the persistent centerfold issues were being handled at the time they were on my short list was a turn-off
    * Noise above ISO 50 was high relative to Phase (as was Sinar, BTW)
    * The back was highly vented (bad for me since I am always outdoors (in Seattle)
    * Fans = moving parts = trouble in dusty or dirty environments.
    * Daylight visibility of the screen was quite poor. This is a bigger problem for the Leaf since the screen is also the interface. I can't just memorize a couple of button presses and move on
    * Windows CE based interface was too slow for me responding to my input
    * Touch screen is not friendly to mitt or glove operation (Leaf and Sinar are). I do a lot of winter photography.
    * After a $3000 experience with Phase and mount swaps, and hearing of similar gnashing-of-teeth over Leaf customers wanting to economically upgrade their non-Hy6 AFI to the Hy6, the importance of adapter plates has been made abundantly clear to me. Only Hasselblad and Sinar embrace this.

    Please don't misinterpret this as me picking on Leaf--in answer to your question, these are the things that influenced my decision. In totality, there is plenty to like about the back, the large & generous screen, the color scheme, Yair's support, etc., and wouldn't be much trouble at all to come up with a list just as long for the issues I have to work around with using the Sinar. I don't know of any solution that doesn't come with its share of compromises.

    But instead, of focusing on the negative, I'd prefer to look at the positive side: I found that Sinar is trying hard to responding to their customer's needs--some recent examples include the revolving back adapters, 45-degree finders modified to allow revolving, continued evolution of their plate system, upgraded electronics and displays in their backs, and so on. Further back, Sinar opened a support forum to field questions directly from the general public on an unreleased product. I can imagine they had "better" things to do with their time, but this type of responsiveness to my needs got my attention (YMMV).

    But, honestly, is it really *that* hard to imagine that things might add up differently for different people?

    Best regards,
    Brad

    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    For the life of me I can't understand why someone would choose the Sinar Hy6 over the Leaf AFi7. Especially after hearing all the Sinar software horror stories AND having a great experience with my Leaf 75S.
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    As you might imagine, I couldn't quite wait until the weekend to go shooting.

    Plans for a summit attempt on Mount Rainier this weekend were postponed on account of bad weather, so I put off doing some chores to go shooting around town yesterday evening.

    I settled on an unusual location--Gas Works Park. It is a location that was opened in 1906 to convert coal to gas (presumably for industrial and/or residential use). As the economy moved to natural gas in the '50's the plant was shut down. It was cleaned up and converted into a park in 1975.

    All kinds of activities go on here, from kite flying on an elaborate inlaid sundial on top of a hill, a play area for kids made out of painted machinery that was once part of the working factory, and relics of the old factory simply left (as art?) for folks to contemplate -- ("what is that??").

    I was impressed with the Hy6. I found myself working very smoothly with the camera--no fights, no hesitations (my Hasselblad loves to refuse to shoot until I acknowledge the message "Digital back is ready".... If it's ready, why don't you shoot????? Grrr....), just pictures. I'd have to say that the only way you could make me happier after this first shoot is to make the lenses 1/10th the weight without changing their quality or silky smooth operation and/or give the whole thing away for free.

    My first shoot was superb. I'm finally where I want to be.

    Any issues?

    Yup--the camera seems to eat batteries. I thought that I would need to worry about the back, but the back had a mostly full battery, while the camera died. I was going to do the swap batteries trick, but my Sinar back is very tight with the Sony and Ray-O-Vac batteries I have. Even the battery from Sinar for the camera barely fits in the back's battery slot. I'm afraid that if I push it all the way in, I'll never get the battery out. (The back is soon to be upgraded for a "generation 2" unit, so I will keep my fingers crossed and hope this is just an issue with my particular unit for now.)

    I posted a few photos up on my gallery. You are welcome to take a look at http://GibsonPhotographic.com/Gas%20Works%20Park, if you are so inclined.

    Comments and feedback are welcome!

    Take care,
    Brad
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    Brad, a very nice series and great to see that you're producing quality work from day one with the new camera!

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    Thank you, Graham!

    -Brad

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    The modified 45 prism to allow the Sinar revolving adapter to rotate was modified by Sinar: there is no way such a revolving adapter does work with a (non-modified) 6008 45 finder version.

    Best regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeny NP View Post
    I have a Rolleiflex Hy6 version of the 45 degree prism and I would like to warn you all that it does not have the " scalloped area " as BJNY named the modified rear part of the prism.
    I do not have a revolving back yet and cannot comment on the use of the Sinar revolving adapter with the Rollei 45 degree prism.
    Yevgeny
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    Tell me more about these "horror" stories, Doug. If there are such, then be sure that they can be found with any software, and usually they find their explanation in a lack of knowing how to use the SW.

    Best regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    For the life of me I can't understand why someone would choose the Sinar Hy6 over the Leaf AFi7. Especially after hearing all the Sinar software horror stories AND having a great experience with my Leaf 75S.

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    Brad, those are indeed very beautiful shots (regardless of the camera/back used):

    bravo!

    Can you give details on the lens(es) used?

    Thierry

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    Thank you, Thierry!

    Sure, the details are pretty straightforward--I haven't named these, so I'll just go in order.

    #1 - Schneider Tele-Xenar 180/2.8 - 1/250th @ f/8
    #2 - Schneider Apo-Tele-Xenar 300/4 + Rollei Apogon (Longar) 1.4x - 1/50th @ f/8
    #3 - Zeiss Planar 110/2 - 1/320th @ f/5
    #4 - Schneider Super-Angulon 40/3.5 - 1/60th @ f/11
    #5 - Schneider Curtagon 60/3.5 - 1/15th @ f/8
    #6 - Schneider Super-Angulon 40/3.5 - 1/30th @ f/11
    #7 - Schneider Apo-Tele-Xenar 300/4 + Rollei Apogon (Longar) 1.4x - 1/25 @ f/8
    #8 - Schneider Apo-Tele-Xenar 300/4 + Rollei Apogon (Longar) 1.4x - 1/25th @ f/8

    Thierry, I would love to see the lens/lens combination (or even just the effective focal length) recorded in the metadata, so that we can remember what we used to shoot what. (It was already getting foggy for me! ) If you could forward such a request to the right person, I'd be grateful.

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    Brad,

    There is the exposure/f-stop in the metadata, as well as the camera, the back, the date, the ISO, the exposure mode, the metering mode, the WB, etc ...: I think it should be possible the register as well the focal length: I shall forward to the right person.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BradleyGibson View Post
    Thierry, I would love to see the lens/lens combination (or even just the effective focal length) recorded in the metadata, so that we can remember what we used to shoot what. (It was already getting foggy for me! ) If you could forward such a request to the right person, I'd be grateful.

    Take care,
    Brad

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    Yes, I am aware of the exposure metadata (believe me, I did not memorize the exposures!), but perhaps you mention this for clarity.

    Thank you for passing along this request. Recording the effective focal length (including the effect of a TC in the optical path) would be fantastic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    Brad,

    There is the exposure/f-stop in the metadata, as well as the camera, the back, the date, the ISO, the exposure mode, the metering mode, the WB, etc ...: I think it should be possible the register as well the focal length: I shall forward to the right person.

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    Wow very nice work!
    The first pic really stands out, like 3Dish....cool stuff

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    Thanks, dlew.

    Re: 3D: I couldn't agree more. The 180 really blew me away with its dimensionality. None of my other photographs include an aspect of the landscape, but I was so pleased by this I had to include this photograph.

    The final photograph (taken with the 300 + 1.4x TC) also has this feel, but it doesn't stand out to quite the same degree. I feel it's the scale of the elements in the photograph, not the lens itself, but time will tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dlew308 View Post
    Wow very nice work!
    The first pic really stands out, like 3Dish....cool stuff

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    I'll add my voice here, Brad. Beautiful series.

    I'm jealous of your Northwest weather as we've been stuck with super bright, intense light these past several days. One can find the light, but it's short lived as we've been sans clouds for a while. But I shouldn't complain as Guy and others in AZ have what looks to be hotter and more intense conditions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thsinar View Post
    The modified 45 prism to allow the Sinar revolving adapter to rotate was modified by Sinar: there is no way such a revolving adapter does work with a (non-modified) 6008 45 finder version.

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    Dear Thierry,
    I was referring to the new HY6 Rollei version of the 45 degree prism, not the revolving 45 degree 6008 prism. I was saying that Rolleiflex and Sinar HY6 prisms look different.
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    Dear Yevgeny,

    ye, I know. But in fact, there is no new Hy6 45 prismfinder: it is the very same as the one for the 6008 (the mount is the same, may the colour has been changed). If you want to use it with the revolving adapter, it needs to be modified as shown in Billy's snapshots. And this is done by Sinar.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Yevgeny NP View Post
    Dear Thierry,
    I was referring to the new HY6 Rollei version of the 45 degree prism, not the revolving 45 degree 6008 prism. I was saying that Rolleiflex and Sinar HY6 prisms look different.
    Yevgeny

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    Thanks, Dale!

    Yes, I agree about the spring, summer and fall here in the Pacific Northwest... I've lived in a lot of places, and my wife is Japanese. We both agree that the weather here, and particularly the clouds are uniquely beautiful. She has done a whole series on Seattle clouds that I am encouraging her to show.

    Now winter? That's a bit different. Although I'm from Canada and am used to cloudy winters, Seattle's can be somewhat dreary. And the "winters" we got when we lived in the Bay Area had much more sun, to be sure!

    But having somewhat low-angle light all day (when you can see it, that is) makes up for it. Sorta. (I'll just keep telling myself that! )

    Thanks again for the kind words.

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    Thierry,

    Do I understand you correctly? My 45 degree 6008 prism will fit a Hy6 (without revolving adapter) with no modification? I thought the mount was different and needed to be sent to Rollei for modification.

    Good news if true.

    Bradley,

    Nice shots. I'm getting a test drive on Hy6 and Hasselblad in July.

    Thanks,

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    Well, show us some pics from it already! LOLOLOLOL!!!
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    I hear ya!

    (I think you may have missed a link that I posted here--with all the talk, it is easy to miss.) Here are the photos, inline:

















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    Ok--several members expressed interest in seeing pictures of the Hy6 itself... My wife was laughing at me taking pictures of my camera, but for you guys...

    Product shots these are not , but hopefully you'll get the idea... Apologies, the rock the camera gear is placed on is red, and it throws off the perceived colour balance...

    My new baby with the top down...


    ...and with the top up!


    A peek through the viewfinder.


    And a shot from the rear--ooh la laa!!


    Front 3/4 from the other side. (Probably the best grip I've used ever, on any camera.)


    Some time ago folks were discussing the size of the camera. Here it is next to a standard CD, which should be available and familiar to folks from just about anywhere in the world:


    And another from the front. Quite remarkable for a full 6x6 camera!


    And there were another set of questions around the colour of the Hy6. I don't know about you guys but I definitely see blue. In person and in these pics. Colours are true to real life. The only time I don't really see the blue is under artificial light where, tungsten, for example radiates hardly any blue! Just compare the neutral strip across the bottom of the Gretag Macbeth chart to see the "colours" of the Hy6. I've been told that all three flavours of the Hy6 are this colour. (Next time, black please!)


    Enjoy,
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    And lastly, I think I promised Carlos some pr0n...

    The entire family gathered together (left to right: Schneider Apo-Tele-Xenar 300/4, Schneider Curtagon 60/3.5, Schneider Xenotar 80/2, Schneider Tele-Xenar 180/2.8, Rollei Apogon (Schneider Longar) 1.4x, Schneider Super-Angulon 40/3.5, Zeiss Planar 110/2:


    You know, they told me that when I have to buy a lens this big, I must be compensating for something! I wonder what they meant??





    Enjoy,
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    It's from my Phase One / Hassy V mount. Because I purchased my Sinar back and Hy6 separately, neither seller gave me masks. I figured my Phase One Hassy V screens might work--they're 6x6 screens, but the Phase chip is slightly larger (49.1x36.8mm as opposed to 48x36mm). I just installed it today--I imagine it'll be off a bit, but we'll see (better than nothing, and that's what I shot with on Friday! Whoops!)

    Any Phase dealer should have these. Let me know if you can't find any but would like one--I have a few and can send one to you if you'd like.

    -Brad

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    this is some high quality p0rn....good times

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    That's a lovely (and very expensive looking) piece of kit Brad. I hear ya on the color though I don't know why they chose that. Colorblind industrial designers?

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    These are traditional German design colors.
    Why does it have to be black?
    It least it doesn't look like anything else(Blad,Mamiya etc)
    But to be honest,I would have preferred mine to be black or dark grey for that matter.
    I still haven't picked mine up,maybe later this week.
    Cheers,
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    I think the main reason for the colour palette is that it sort of matches the eMotion-75LV.
    You are stuffed with the Leaf AFi.
    Too many colours!

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