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I'm curious to see comparison of images shot at F/22 on P65+ vs IQ180. Would like to see it on P65+ if that's all you have. Thank you very much!
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It will be hard to find someone who has done this comparison because at f/22 both systems will be equally (very) soft. Both are well past their diffraction limit by f/16.5 and by f/22 are going to be mushy soft.I'm curious to see comparison of images shot at F/22 on P65+ vs IQ180. Would like to see it on P65+ if that's all you have. Thank you very much!
Alpa recommends F8 - F11 max with the majority of their newer lenses.I'm with Doug i would not even think of shooting at F22 so all my images with the IQ 180 which are a lot none of them is at those apertures. F16 really is about the max with any MF lens in any brand to be honest.
Yeah I'm not an MFDB owner so I can't really play around with it to know. I want to know the F/22 answer because it will be what I plan to shoot with the most. On my Canon F/22 is definitely softer but acceptable for landscape photography.I understand the art of asking the wrong question - it is easy to do when moving into a new endeavour - as I suspect you are.
Thanks for the sample image. Much appreciated! I know there's no sharpening done here, but I can't help to think that it looks very soft. Was it handheld or was it on a sturdy Tripod/head with MLU? Was there a focusing micro offset (i.e. the focus plane isn't perfectly aligned) that you're aware of? Did you use the Phase body (SLR) or Cambo? Or is the softness normal and will become 'properly' sharp once sharpened?Well I took my first photo with my new P65+ yesterday using the 55mm f2.8 Schneider LS lens at 100 iso, f11 @ 1/160. No sharpening in Capture One, no anything in Capture One, small increase in contrast in CS4.
I would agree...looks like the focal plane is a good 6 - 12 inches in front of this building...the vertical 1x6 (2x6) near the peak seems to be sharper at its near edge than the rest.... I can't help to think that it looks very soft.
Is the DoF at F/11 that unforgiving (aka shallow)?I would agree...looks like the focal plane is a good 6 - 12 inches in front of this building...the vertical 1x6 (2x6) near the peak seems to be sharper at its near edge than the rest.
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Seems the link Doug posted had good examples of what you are asking. the difference between f/16 and f/22 was pretty pronounced.Sorry with all the questions a bit excited to see I wonder if you can try to get the F/11 as sharp as possible and compare against F/22. Even shooting something inside is ok as long as it's on tripod with MLU. I just did this experiment with my Canon an hour ago
This is spot on.I think diffraction is a property of the lens, what changes is the ability of the sensor to resolve the detail. There isn't any more diffraction happening, just the sensor has the ability to actually record it.
Of course, if you shoot with a IQ180 and downrez to the size of a IQ160 I'm guessing the end results will be virtually identical, meaning when you can shoot at 8 or 11 you get the best, but if you have to shoot at 22 there are options to deliver pretty much the same quality as the IQ160 at the same f/stop. Other post processing tools can reduce the visual effect of diffraction, especially when the object is printing the image large. Don't really want to stir up a big debate here, but I've used f/22 on more than one occasion and printed very large prints that look great.
Jim2Thanks for the sample image. Much appreciated! I know there's no sharpening done here, but I can't help to think that it looks very soft. Was it handheld or was it on a sturdy Tripod/head with MLU? Was there a focusing micro offset (i.e. the focus plane isn't perfectly aligned) that you're aware of? Did you use the Phase body (SLR) or Cambo? Or is the softness normal and will become 'properly' sharp once sharpened?
Sorry with all the questions a bit excited to see I wonder if you can try to get the F/11 as sharp as possible and compare against F/22. Even shooting something inside is ok as long as it's on tripod with MLU. I just did this experiment with my Canon an hour ago