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    The perfect portrait lens?

    Hi guys

    So I'm having a lot of problem with choosing a new portrait lens. I already have the LS80mm f/2.8 but feel it's not tight enough.

    I've been looking at two lenses, the 120mm macro and the 150mm, actually four lenses because of the AF vs. MF in the 120mm and the leaf vs. no leaf in the 150mm

    So guys, what would you do, which one of these would you choose...or, even some other?
    My background is studio work, I shoot almost everything in my studio but sometimes on location. I use the Leaf shutter a alot but also large f-stops. I shoot with the Phase One 645DF and P30+ back.

    Thanks in advance


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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Isn't there an LS110? That's a great focal length on a MFDB for portraits.

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    I am using the same setup as yours. You won't be disappointed with 150mm D. If you don't mind about leaf shutter, it is very sharp. You can't use the 110mm LS on Phase One 645AF anyway.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topgreat View Post
    I am using the same setup as yours. You won't be disappointed with 150mm D. If you don't mind about leaf shutter, it is very sharp. You can't use the 110mm LS on Phase One 645AF anyway.
    Sorry I was clearly not awake I have the DF version, 645DF.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Graham Mitchell View Post
    Isn't there an LS110? That's a great focal length on a MFDB for portraits.
    Ohh yeah, the LS 110mm is an option too, have heard great things about it.

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    On Hasselblad, the 50-110 zoom is useful, but a bit wide for some shots at 110 on a 53mm sensor.

    120 macro was a good lens for 56mm^2

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    Off-hand, a couple of lenses come to mind -- the 75-150mm f/4.5 is a very high-performance, flexible lens that would likely suit your needs. Otherwise, have you considered the 200mm f/2.8 APO? If you're not averse to manually focusing, and stop-down metering, it might be the perfect lens for you.

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    110mm Schneider LS is fantastic.

    150mm D is fantastic. (Schneider to release a LS version soon)

    75-150 is a great lens for flexibility.

    Considering the 1.3 crop of the P30+ and the length of your studio area, the 110 or 75-150 might be better choices....

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Quote Originally Posted by coulombic View Post
    Off-hand, a couple of lenses come to mind -- the 75-150mm f/4.5 is a very high-performance, flexible lens that would likely suit your needs. Otherwise, have you considered the 200mm f/2.8 APO? If you're not averse to manually focusing, and stop-down metering, it might be the perfect lens for you.
    No I think the 200mm would be to tight for me.

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Quote Originally Posted by coulombic View Post
    Off-hand, a couple of lenses come to mind -- the 75-150mm f/4.5 is a very high-performance, flexible lens that would likely suit your needs. Otherwise, have you considered the 200mm f/2.8 APO? If you're not averse to manually focusing, and stop-down metering, it might be the perfect lens for you.
    No I think the 200mm would be to tight for me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    110mm Schneider LS is fantastic.

    150mm D is fantastic. (Schneider to release a LS version soon)

    75-150 is a great lens for flexibility.

    Considering the 1.3 crop of the P30+ and the length of your studio area, the 110 or 75-150 might be better choices....
    Yeah I.ve heard of the LS lens, will be sick I think, that's why I'm considering it. Once you go leaf you can't stop

    I will consider the 110mm also, thanks for the help guys!

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    The 110 LS is a extremely nice lens. I just got it a few months back and believe it or not I like it better than the 150D which I loved but the 110 just has a nice look to it. My next lens is the 240 LS and that maybe my portrait lens. I like using long glass on portraits but maybe a little long for some folks. I'm pretty much buying all the Schneider glass available. Right now the I have the 55, 80, 110 and than the 240 when it comes out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    The 110 LS is a extremely nice lens. I just got it a few months back and believe it or not I like it better than the 150D which I loved but the 110 just has a nice look to it. My next lens is the 240 LS and that maybe my portrait lens. I like using long glass on portraits but maybe a little long for some folks. I'm pretty much buying all the Schneider glass available. Right now the I have the 55, 80, 110 and than the 240 when it comes out.


    Schneider rocks, nothing wrong with wanting that

    I'll give the 110mm a try, could be a good choice. Thanks Guy!

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Here just a quick shot of my nephew last night with a 110mm on my P40+ about 9 ft away . Full Image airbrushed a good chunk but extremely sharp.
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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    FYI used a one light Quadra for fill with a small umbrella.
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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    .... My next lens is the 240 LS and that maybe my portrait lens. I like using long glass on portraits but maybe a little long for some folks. I'm pretty much buying all the Schneider glass available. Right now the I have the 55, 80, 110 and than the 240 when it comes out.
    240 LS peeks my interest as well. It'll go great with your new IQ160, Guy.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Here just a quick shot of my nephew last night with a 110mm on my P40+ about 9 ft away . Full Image airbrushed a good chunk but extremely sharp.
    Nice one Guy. Was it wide open?

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    Just not sure i can get the 160 money my friend. Its a stretch but the 140 is a definite. Now my issue is waiting which you know is not a Guy trait. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by tomz View Post
    Nice one Guy. Was it wide open?
    Shot at ISO 100 1/250 at F9. The quadras put out a full 400 watt power. It was slightly behind me so 10ft which is a pretty big pop coming from them. If I shot it with just the diffuser it would have gone to most likely F13. So that will give folks a idea how much juice they have fighting the AZ sun. The 110mm has very nice bokeh
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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Here just a quick shot of my nephew last night with a 110mm on my P40+ about 9 ft away . Full Image airbrushed a good chunk but extremely sharp.
    Guy! Where's the skintone enhancement on this image?

    It's begging for a luminance push to a narrow selection of the magentas in the skin and then a strong consistency slider towards a homogenous skin color! Masked to the face if needed.

    I know you know how! :-P

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    LOL. I know I know had sister in law over shoulder driving me nuts on selection. LOL
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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    well he played golf earlier in the day. Here like these adjustments
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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Hope you don't mind I took a quick shot at it. I was working from your JPG, so obviously would be a bit smoother on some of the transitions if done to the raw directly.

    One layer mask on the face with two adjustments
    - boost the magenta luminance and push them over towards red
    - skin tone consistency to blend the skin tones
    - slight boost to the eye color

    Took me 20 seconds. Did I end up going overboard and removing too much magenta? I'm working off a computer with an uncalibrated screen today.






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    *Edit - had to reupload. Forgot to save as sRGB. Rookie mistake. :-)

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Like yours too. More natural. I think I went overboard.

    So much you can do now in Capture One without needing to leave raw...

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Maybe went a little overboard. Anyway like to go over this more with you next week when in Phoenix. And folks CI and Doug obviously are coming here for some technical training. Fly in , Drive in , run in. Really some great training and I will be there myself. I think some new gear will be there as well.

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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

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    Maybe went a little overboard. Anyway like to go over this more with you next week when in Phoenix. And folks CI and Doug obviously are coming here for some technical training. Fly in , Drive in , run in. Really some great training and I will be there myself. I think some new gear will be there as well.

    http://www.captureintegration.com/ou...coming-events/
    Here it is side-by-side with slightly less adjustment. Definitely went a notch too far the first time - at least for a male - would have been good adjustments for a woman. Too even in brightness and color now. Should have remembered my own advice to make any adjustment and then back off slightly because your eyes adjust.



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    Look forward to seeing you there my friend. Looks good too.

    trying to get Jack to fly in if he can.
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    We just got a nice little lesson from Doug. Man i love this place
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    Re: The perfect portrait lens?

    Apart from C1 stuff..

    There is no such thing as perfect portrait lens, b/c it always ties in with your style and style of shoot. I do like "normal" perspective more than telephoto for portraits, and it forces me to use actual "normal" lens, which is 55mm (80mm is actually a bit more narrow than human's eye). For me this is perfect portrait length. Yet - when time calls i can go to 110/140/150/180 or even 270 b/c of soft effect i needed or background push..

    Crop doesnt change perspective, only "tightness of frame" so i dont take that into equation at all.

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