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    Are any IQ180s arriving?

    I know from another thread here that I'm not alone in the uk in feeling like supply (and news) has dried up, having originally expected a May delivery. Is anyone else getting stock? It seems after the first batch arrived to Michael Reichman, Jack, and a few others, it's all gone rather quiet... I wonder whether some of the LCC/loose fitting/LCD display issues that people have raised might have anything to do with it? The launch seems to have gone very well otherwise. Possibly they are just swamped with demand, or maybe they are waiting for the new FW that delivers the balance of the original spec?

    Any thoughts?

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    Re: Are any IQ180s arriving?

    Have not heard that any of the previously mentioned issues were widespread except for those posted here.

    The LCC issue is one that can be corrected in Capture One for now, can it improve, most likely. It seems to be an issue with certain lenses not designed by Phase One used on technical cameras, so RD has to find workarounds. In the past they have done a great job with Pattern noise suppression and other LCC fixes.. Will it be addressed further , I am sure, does it affect everyone, no.

    The loose fitting of some IQ's to adapters/cameras, from my personal experience is not widespread the ones I have tried all fit snug, then there are few here who say it was loose, then they weren't. Have I experienced loose cover plates on all Phase One backs at one time or another , yes, but I attribute that to the design of the protective covers with some of the screws coming loose.

    The LCD display is fine, it is just that some files that require extreme processing to render a perfect preview is not 100%, does that affect everyone no, just a small portion that actually have pushed files to extremes. In normal everyday use it works excellent.

    It is probably the delay is caused by filling demand, they may have started a little behind, and are just playing catch up. Also sometimes units do get caught in customs and transit.

    What has your local UK dealer told you.

    We are receiving units weekly, but not nearly enough to satisfy all of our demand.

    Sorry we can't give firm dates, but all I can say is soon.

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    Re: Are any IQ180s arriving?

    Tim I got notice last week that mine was invoiced from Denmark to be arriving to the dealer in the next few days. So, I'm expecting the call at any moment that it has arrived at the dealer.

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    I got mine a week ago - but it was delayed on purpose by Phase One because I was trading in a lowly P-45+ back - I got skipped over in line in favor of other folks who were trading in P-65+ backs (who had ordered later than me) because, as the Phase rep put it, there was a higher demand for resale of the more costly backs. Needless to say I was pissed, and thankfully my dealer went to bat for me and got my back delivered (Paul at Optechs - oops, that reminds me - I guess I had better pay Paul for it now!). FYI, the fit on my back is fine on both my Mamiya and Alpa bodies so I am a happy camper.

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    Here in Hong Kong the first IQ180 got finally delivered. I placed my order back in March.
    I was told the next one would only come in July!
    Both my P65+ Alpa fitting and the new back are a bit loose compared to the DF body
    I guess I am going to write them since since I am not sure who "to blame"

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    Tim,

    I received word that my IQ180 was on its way from Denmark just over a week ago. I think mine got held up in customs, so just waiting for the word hopefully this week...

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    Quote Originally Posted by lance_schad View Post
    Have not heard that any of the previously mentioned issues were widespread except for those posted here.

    The LCC issue is one that can be corrected in Capture One for now, can it improve, most likely. It seems to be an issue with certain lenses not designed by Phase One used on technical cameras, so RD has to find workarounds. In the past they have done a great job with Pattern noise suppression and other LCC fixes.. Will it be addressed further , I am sure, does it affect everyone, no.

    The loose fitting of some IQ's to adapters/cameras, from my personal experience is not widespread the ones I have tried all fit snug, then there are few here who say it was loose, then they weren't. Have I experienced loose cover plates on all Phase One backs at one time or another , yes, but I attribute that to the design of the protective covers with some of the screws coming loose.

    The LCD display is fine, it is just that some files that require extreme processing to render a perfect preview is not 100%, does that affect everyone no, just a small portion that actually have pushed files to extremes. In normal everyday use it works excellent.

    It is probably the delay is caused by filling demand, they may have started a little behind, and are just playing catch up. Also sometimes units do get caught in customs and transit.

    What has your local UK dealer told you.

    We are receiving units weekly, but not nearly enough to satisfy all of our demand.

    Sorry we can't give firm dates, but all I can say is soon.

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    Hi Lance,

    "We are receiving units weekly"

    Just curious - are you able to qualify that statement with a number ?

    Otherwise, I detect a distinct whiff of marketing hyperbole here.

    "It is probably the delay is caused by filling demand, they may have started a little behind, and are just playing catch up. Also sometimes units do get caught in customs and transit."

    Come on Lance - the utility of this information is insultingly low. It sounds like you have no more information that the end-users. Thanks for trying though, it is admittedly more than I have had from my dealer.......................
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    Re: Are any IQ180s arriving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Googaliser View Post
    Hi Lance,

    "We are receiving units weekly"

    Just curious - are you able to qualify that statement with a number ?

    Otherwise, I detect an distinct whiff of marketing hyperbole here.

    "It is probably the delay is caused by filling demand, they may have started a little behind, and are just playing catch up. Also sometimes units do get caught in customs and transit."

    Come on Lance - the informational value here is almost insultingly low. Thanks for trying though
    Does it really matter if it is 1 or 100, it is not enough to fill supply.

    Please bear in mind the logistics here that Phase One is dealing with, upgrades, trade-ins, buy-now's. All orders are shipped from Denmark and pre-assigned prior to shipping.
    They have 13 reseller partners here in the US and many more world wide.

    It seems from the posts here that more and more members are receiving theirs. The best bet is to keep in contact with your dealer as they are the ones that can work closely with Phase One to track or expedite in certain circumstances (ie: travel or job deadline).

    Sorry I cannot be more specific with numbers.

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    ''Does it really matter if it is 1 or 100, it is not enough to fill supply. "

    To be honest - yes it does - to the extent it is valuable information that adds something to the collective knowledge of this forum as opposed to a poor 101 in economic theory !

    Fine if you prefer not to disclose this information, it will be discounted accordingly.

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    There are a number of resellers on this board. If Lance put those numbers out there, he'd put his organization at a dis-advantage. I'd bet that Doug or Steve would write the exact same sentence that Lance did.

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    Still waiting news about my IQ180. It's an upgrade from p65+. There can't be any delays for customs. As most Europe is in EU. Like Denamrk, UK and Finland. Also my dealer can't tell me anything extra. I made the order in february.

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    Re: Are any IQ180s arriving?

    Thanks for all the responses everyone, really useful. Looking on the bright side I guess it gives those of us in the middle of the queue a window of opportunity to see which if any of the initial problems are real or widespread and maybe even to get the chance to hear someone else's experience with our favourite lenses on the new back... Another week or three and we might even get to know what we're really going to see from live view.

    Better informed is good, even for those with very itchy fingers!

    Tim

    Ps Doug, any news yet on your 35xl tests?
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    Tim I am with Doug right now and helped him with his test yesterday. His plan was to process tomorrow. Lenses used Schnieder 28, 35, 43, 60 and Rodie 70. Not sure when he will get everything posted but the images are in the can as they say
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Tim I am with Doug right now and helped him with his test yesterday. His plan was to process tomorrow. Lenses used Schnieder 28, 35, 43, 60 and Rodie 70. Not sure when he will get everything posted but the images are in the can as they say
    Brilliant! Thank you!

    Any first thoughts on the 35xl? It's my bread and butter lens on the 65+, and probably the most perfectly neutral lens I know...

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    My status...

    Upgrading from P65+, Phase/Mamiya mount, pulled the trigger on a IQ180 on 2/7. I've been told (~ 2 weeks ago) mid to late June, but probably before July. I think my dealer likes to surprise with good/early delivery news, so maybe next week, but who really knows. In the meantime, the P65+ is no slouch:)

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    Just learned today the IQ 160s are starting to ship as well. This just made my day
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Just learned today the IQ 160s are starting to ship as well. This just made my day
    Phew! And just right in time for you to upgrade it to the IQ180!

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    I'm sticking with the 160. Use whatever money left for items on wish list.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I'm sticking with the 160. Use whatever money left for items on wish list.
    Just kiddin' you, Guy. The IQ160 has "Guy" written all over it.

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    It will blend. LOL
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    Ta-dah! Getting ready to roll out the red carpet for Fed Ex....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Ta-dah! Getting ready to roll out the red carpet for Fed Ex....
    We must be in the same batch. I also just got a tracking number.

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    Got mine a week ago, about when it was promised.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Ta-dah! Getting ready to roll out the red carpet for Fed Ex....
    I can see Ken at the end of the driveway going from one foot to the other looking up the street both ways.

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    I feel left out!
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    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    I feel left out!
    :-(
    Mine was ordered well before you started a thread trying to decide what to do.

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    I ordered mine on 21st March, so not the earliest order!

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    Any new units seen?
    Very quiet here, still waiting!

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    Mine arrived last week.

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    mine on June 3
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    etu Bob?
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    Camera porn. One nite stand---last time these two will be seen together.

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    I'm waiting for the phone to ring.
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    I spoke to my dealer yesterday to ask about the terms to switch my order from a 180 to a 160 (which I don't think I'll do but it may be possible) and he said that I was second in the queue and that the first person had already got theirs but that Phase were not currently being very forthcoming about when the next units would appear.

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    Well its not here. LOL
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    Re: Are any IQ180s arriving?

    I sent the email to order mine on Jan. 25th at 11:45 am and to a reply confirming the order at 12:19. not sure when my dealer actually put it through but assuming pretty close to that time. I'm headed on a shoot to moab(I only get a chance to travel like this a few times a year) and my dealer is working hard to get my back. I know I ordered it pretty early and based on those receiving backs already I'm a little surprised mine hasn't arrived. But I know several of you were probably able to pre-order the back before it was actually announced .. wondering if Phase has even shipped to all of them.

    Curious as to when those who have received the backs placed their order ...
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    I ordered my 180 on January 24th as early in the am as I could from Capture Integration. I received it June 4th. Steve Hendrix and Doug Peterson at CI were great at keeping me up to date.


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    I ordered mine on January 24th and it arrived June 2nd. Phase One tried to skip over my order in favor of others who were trading in P65s (a dirty trick on their part - my trade in was a lowly P45+ but Phase One said the demand was higher for P65s so they were going to ship those orders first, even yhough I was ahead in line). My dealer (Paul at Optechs) went to bat for me and got mine back on track and I had it within a couple of days - I was thrilled he was able to right the wrong that Phase One had done. It does seem that some folks are getting theirs ahead of other folks who ordered theirs sooner - same deal with the special Phase One daypacks - not everyone got one. Phase is playing favorites and it is leaving a bad taste in my mouth...

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    On the backpacks . Each dealer was asked by Phase for ten names of there customers. So each dealer submitted there customers names for the backpacks.

    On allocation it's sort of a mixed bag on how that works and no one has a real answer. In the past those that bought brand new got ahead of everyone else and than the upgrades. How it is working now not even the dealers know for sure. I know I asked and I usually get answers but I don't think it is anything sinister in practice but more organizing theses orders as the upgrades usually go by the serial number of your current back at least they are tied to that number. How they get distributed is a guess
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    ..the upgrades usually go by the serial number of your current back..

    Mine was one of the very first P45+ backs ordered more than four years ago - not sure if that put me at the head of the line for a trade in or the end of the line but that really should not matter - Phase was not up front on this delivery stuff and I think a number of folks are feeling that crunch now.

    Not all dealers were allowed to participate in the free backpack deal. It is a good-old-boy network and it really should not be - that sort of stuff is for used car dealers...

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    Well, good news. My back is currently in customs, may even arrive at my dealer tomorrow and get shipped out in time for my trip. So sounds like they are about to 1/25 in order fulfillment which might be towards then end of the initial rush of orders.
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    I had to return my 180 and received the demo model from my dealer until they ship a new one apparently within the next 3 days. On my model the is image was only recorded half way.
    I know for a fact that another fellow shooter had a similar problem and returned his which in the bigger picture might add to the delay in delivery if more folks have had problem with their units.

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    Have any 180s in non Mamiya mounts been delivered? I wonder if Phase is filling all of the Mamiya mount orders first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rupho View Post
    I had to return my 180 and received the demo model from my dealer until they ship a new one apparently within the next 3 days. On my model the is image was only recorded half way.
    I know for a fact that another fellow shooter had a similar problem and returned his which in the bigger picture might add to the delay in delivery if more folks have had problem with their units.
    Same here! I received my 180 last week and all was well but within about 20 shots, the sensor failed and only half of the image would be recorded. No word yet on when a new unit will arrive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hcubell View Post
    Have any 180s in non Mamiya mounts been delivered? I wonder if Phase is filling all of the Mamiya mount orders first.
    I've heard that yes, some non Mamiya mountes were delivered and that was some of the cause of dealers not being to strictly go by order date.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    On the backpacks . Each dealer was asked by Phase for ten names of there customers. So each dealer submitted there customers names for the backpacks.

    ....
    Oh, this is not good. This means that if you received a Phase One backpack (very nice by the way), it signifies:

    1. You have spent way too much money on medium format digital gear, and Phase One thanks you with these limited premiums;

    2. You have achieved the mark of the "Scarlet Letter" (albeit in Phase One colors) of the revered GetDPI Enabler status.

    ken

    p.s. And, no---I did not receive multiple Phase backpacks from different dealers.

    p.p.s. IQ180 still feels "new in the hand" but is intuitively easy to navigate especially for those coming from P series MFDBs. Headed to Monument Valley and the Slots to meet Don Libby next week and put the IQ180 to work! Yeah, you can come join us---we're easy to find: we'll both be wearing our Phase backpacks...

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    ah just rub it in Ken. I'm hoping my phone call will come today on my IQ 160
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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Oh, this is not good. This means that if you received a Phase One backpack (very nice by the way), it signifies:

    1. You have spent way too much money on medium format digital gear, and Phase One thanks you with these limited premiums;

    2. You have achieved the mark of the "Scarlet Letter" (albeit in Phase One colors) of the revered GetDPI Enabler status.

    ken

    p.s. And, no---I did not receive multiple Phase backpacks from different dealers.

    p.p.s. IQ180 still feels "new in the hand" but is intuitively easy to navigate especially for those coming from P series MFDBs. Headed to Monument Valley and the Slots to meet Don Libby next week and put the IQ180 to work! Yeah, you can come join us---we're easy to find: we'll both be wearing our Phase backpacks...

    You just had to spill the beans ...
    Don Libby
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    Re: Are any IQ180s arriving?

    Thanks for the update info.

    Seems I'll be having a long wait ahead, maybe for christmas?

    Kirmo

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    Re: Are any IQ180s arriving?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Rubinstein View Post
    etu Bob?
    Yup, just couldn't help myself.
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