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    Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Well I jumped in the water. A good friend of mine and the forums offered me his Cambo WRS, 35XL and Mamiya Plate to me today that I just could not refuse as much as I was holding off. Right now its a good jump in to actually own one instead of always using a demo and such. I tried all three of the big boys and i like them all very much. Alpa , Arca have some wonderful kits and they truly are a work of art and i hated to not get any one of those. I like the Cambo a lot and it is a good cam and gets me in the door and I can grow the system or work towards a different system. Its the glass I am after folks. Having the 60 mpx sensor now am just feeling like a pig and soaking everything I can get off that back and i feel a little bad here as we have some great reps from Alpa and Arca that work hard on this forum to help people and I certainly do not want to slight them in anyway or the products they represent.

    As one of the owners here I am very careful on what I do , say and buy as I hold myself up to a very high standard of being not bias as much as I possible can. All these systems are great and wish i could own them all because they all bring something great to the industry. I felt I need to say something here as one of the owners here Jack and I make gear choices more out of need than anything else and we never want to slight anyone or anyones products. We both know folks look at what we buy and do follow us to some extent on our purchases, lets face it we are instructors and teach photography and we are here daily helping people on their needs, so I think that is pretty normal to see what we are shooting.

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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Let me guess: your wife figures she might as well give in--what with the New England workshop coming and all those toys on display. With the Cambo WRS in hand, at least it deflects more expensive purchases!

    I don't think you're compromising at all----sweet rig. With those new available wood handles (same as WRS1050) *sigh* someday...

    Congrats Guy!

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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Some things are better left unsaid. Lol

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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    And you really think your wife never reads this forum?

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    Guy,
    That's great news! Wish i could be at the NE workshop. It will be boatloads of fun.

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    Congrats!

    I will get one of those Tech one day soon, i played with STC and Horseman SWD of Brain and they are nice tools indeed, but i am not in rush yet, and not rich as you and i am not scared of my wife, as long she get what she wants then i can get what i want
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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    I have a great wife for sure and I tease about it a lot. But she was not real happy on the REAL cost of the 160 . Guess I forgot a few numbers. This purchase is right on the tail of that. Just staying out of swinging distance. Lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I have a great wife for sure and I tease about it a lot. But she was not real happy on the REAL cost of the 160 . Guess I forgot a few numbers. This purchase is right on the tail of that. Just staying out of swinging distance. Lol
    Good LUCKKKKKK!!!
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    Congrats Guy! And I am really looking forward to all the 35 vs 40 vs 43 - and 23 vs 28 vs 32 - and 70 vs 72 - and 90 vs 120 vs 150 discussions once you recover from batting practice!!!

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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well I jumped in the water. A good friend of mine and the forums offered me his Cambo WRS, 35XL and Mamiya Plate to me today that I just could not refuse as much as I was holding off. Right now its a good jump in to actually own one instead of always using a demo and such. I tried all three of the big boys and i like them all very much. Alpa , Arca have some wonderful kits and they truly are a work of art and i hated to not get any one of those. I like the Cambo a lot and it is a good cam and gets me in the door and I can grow the system or work towards a different system. Its the glass I am after folks. Having the 60 mpx sensor now am just feeling like a pig and soaking everything I can get off that back and i feel a little bad here as we have some great reps from Alpa and Arca that work hard on this forum to help people and I certainly do not want to slight them in anyway or the products they represent.

    As one of the owners here I am very careful on what I do , say and buy as I hold myself up to a very high standard of being not bias as much as I possible can. All these systems are great and wish i could own them all because they all bring something great to the industry. I felt I need to say something here as one of the owners here Jack and I make gear choices more out of need than anything else and we never want to slight anyone or anyones products. We both know folks look at what we buy and do follow us to some extent on our purchases, lets face it we are instructors and teach photography and we are here daily helping people on their needs, so I think that is pretty normal to see what we are shooting.

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    Congrats Guy The more thoughtful approach is a positive thing with tech cameras imho.
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    Thanks folks , I'm actually pretty excited here.
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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Professional View Post

    . . . . . and i am not scared of my wife, as long she get what she wants then i can get what i want
    @ Professional
    Then your gear will cost you the double prize .
    I can see the STC + Lens + IQ180 for you in a very far distance only .

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    @ Guy

    Congratulations and all the best and much fun with that new cam! I am so sure you will enjoy it and make the most out of it.

    I am unfortunately on a waiting position with investing more in MFD, especially Tech Cams as I currently have different big investments to take, but I know the time will come back and then I will also join the Tech Cam club

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    Guy, it is great that you finally took the tech camera plunge. I have only had my RM3di about a week along with a couple of lenses, and I must say I am thoroughly enjoying a tech camera. I still have my 645DF for now! I will likely bring the RM3di to the New England workshop where I hope to get lots of pointers. Charles

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    Absolutely bring your tech cam. Plenty of tech cam shooting and Df shooting plus any camera you folks want to bring or try. We know every system out there. I have been shooting the tech cam for years just never owned one. Feel good about owning one now and have lots of plans for it.
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    Congratulations Guy! I've always felt the WRS offers the most bang for the buck! I started out with the 35 then shortly added the 72 and later on a 120. I've been shooting with this setup now for well over 2 1/2 years which in camera years is light 8. The only thing I've changed/upgraded during this time was the P45+ to a P65+.

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    Thanks Don , better keep a eye on your Rosewood handles. I want them . LOL

    Seriously I have read many of your posts on the Cambo and used it quite a lot and they get the job done very nicely indeed. I also like the form factor of them a lot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Thanks Don , better keep a eye on your Rosewood handles. I want them . LOL

    Seriously I have read many of your posts on the Cambo and used it quite a lot and they get the job done very nicely indeed. I also like the form factor of them a lot.
    You can have my Rosewood handles when you pry them from my cold dead hands!
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    I am waitting for your report on the WRS. I am up in the air go the ALPA STC or the WRS.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    @ Professional
    Then your gear will cost you the double prize .
    I can see the STC + Lens + IQ180 for you in a very far distance only .

    @ Guy
    Congrats to you and welcome to Tech.Cam.User.Club . I wish you lots of stunning images .
    I will, i will get the Tech cam first and lens, later will see the DB.
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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Well I jumped in the water. A good friend of mine and the forums offered me his Cambo WRS, 35XL and Mamiya Plate to me today that I just could not refuse as much as I was holding off. Right now its a good jump in to actually own one instead of always using a demo and such. I tried all three of the big boys and i like them all very much. Alpa , Arca have some wonderful kits and they truly are a work of art and i hated to not get any one of those. I like the Cambo a lot and it is a good cam and gets me in the door and I can grow the system or work towards a different system. Its the glass I am after folks. Having the 60 mpx sensor now am just feeling like a pig and soaking everything I can get off that back and i feel a little bad here as we have some great reps from Alpa and Arca that work hard on this forum to help people and I certainly do not want to slight them in anyway or the products they represent.

    As one of the owners here I am very careful on what I do , say and buy as I hold myself up to a very high standard of being not bias as much as I possible can. All these systems are great and wish i could own them all because they all bring something great to the industry. I felt I need to say something here as one of the owners here Jack and I make gear choices more out of need than anything else and we never want to slight anyone or anyones products. We both know folks look at what we buy and do follow us to some extent on our purchases, lets face it we are instructors and teach photography and we are here daily helping people on their needs, so I think that is pretty normal to see what we are shooting.

    I'm in the club. Your all in deep do do now. LOL
    Great move! You're going to love the 35XL

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    Thanks Woody. Getting antsy waiting for the morning to receive it
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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Guy,
    Great move. I still remember hanging off horseshoe bend using the cambo with your help
    I'm sure you will get great images especially with the 35xl lens.

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    Thank goodness for another Cambo user, I was starting to think DPI was becoming all "Alpa-Arca" all the time! There is even an "Alpa only" image thread.
    I know you will enjoy the tech cam, even if a single lens costs more than your DF and 80mm lens combined.

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    LOL

    The package just arrived , time for its grand opening. LOL

    And yes we need some balance here. ROTFLMAO
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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I'm in the club. Your all in deep do do now. LOL
    Congratulations Guy - I hope you'll be very happy together . . . I'm just off to Greece with my M9 and a few M lenses . . . small but perfectly formed.

    not in the do do yet (my, how long have I resisted )

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    I've been using the WRS since late 2008 which makes it 3 years this October. It's more like triple that in camera years. The way I figure it is if it doesn't work for me get rid of it and try something else. If it doesn't make me money, get rid of it and try something else. In my case the WRS has worked for me and continues to today as well as makes me money. The only thing(s) I had a problem with was getting a too wide a lens that wouldn't allow for shifting and my ill attempt to use a groundglass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    The package just arrived , time for its grand opening. LOL
    OK, we are waiting for some extreme testing - some of your famous "ugly tests". Should be perfect conditions now, noon Arizona sun! Shift that puppy and let's see some corners and color cast. Have fun!

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonMo View Post
    Thank goodness for another Cambo user, I was starting to think DPI was becoming all "Alpa-Arca" all the time! .........
    Yes , dead right !
    But then on the other hand , there are not only PHASE ONE and LEAF backs on the market
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    Hopefully not!

    As Bryan (siebel) says it so well:

    "In the end, it's all about the pictures"

    and only this.

    So show your best images for inspiration, whatever the brands used are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonMo View Post
    ... I was starting to think DPI was becoming all "Alpa-Arca" all the time! There is even an "Alpa only" image thread.
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    Thierry

    Although I say "dead right" and you say "hopefully not" , we mean the same
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    Well got it all setup and first thing I did was take the lens bars off. Wow that just made it a P&S right there. Its like a TC only slightly bigger and yes i can shoot it handheld. LOL

    Okay Phase here is my bitch of the day the wake cable does it have to be as big as a freaking snake. I had to double it up and duct tape it to the inside of my grip. Cannot we not make one smaller too for field tech cam users. This is stupid, sorry. I want one at about six to eight inches long with the wake up button right at the back side of the DIN connector. Has not ANYONE bitched about this.

    COME ON MAN!!!!!!


    Actually I sent Paramount Cords a e-mail already to see if they can custom make something.

    On to something really sweet focus mask is just deadly with a tech cam , guess adjust and your home. i would go out and shoot but its a 114 degrees out there. No way Jose'. I'm crazy but I know my limits, I'll take 20 below anyday over this.

    Hopefully I will get a few shots tomorrow. Waiting for a couple parts.

    Iphone image sorry. BTW I HATE CABLES and will do anything to get rid of them. New shorter cable release coming but I had to get dirty with duct tape for now until I figure something out a better solution to the snake long wakeup cable. almost 50 grand and I have to use duct tape.
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    What does the Alpa wake up cable look like I have on the left grip a pass through like the right grip for a cable . Love to rig something inside that.

    I remember Terrys Alpa TC left grip had a gorgeous wake up setup. I want that
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    Here Guy:

    ALPA Sync Release

    Enjoy your new tool.

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    What does the Alpa wake up cable look like I have on the left grip a pass through like the right grip for a cable . Love to rig something inside that.

    I remember Terrys Alpa TC left grip had a gorgeous wake up setup. I want that
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    Thanks Thierry.

    Looks like I would have to mount that upside down though as my thread is coming from the bottom up
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    I hate being poor.

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    Oh Im poor now trust me.


    Just shot my kitchen and love the IQ 160 back . Used live view to focus at 100 percent than took a shot checked focus mask which i had to bump up the number to 55 to match my Phase glass in points being shown ( schnieder lens its awesome). Did rise and fall to the max 15 down 15 up with no issues on the LCD back ( did LCC on all of them for processing) than I did a 25 degree rise and i can see the magenta banding on the top. So that is pretty good . Now have to see how the corrections are with the LCC. Same with Shift either way 15 degrees i see nothing bad. But at 20 degrees i see the magenta cast.

    So just from the LCD looks good at 15 degrees either way. i will process and confirm all that with the LCC. But so far I'm thrilled .

    Oh and anyone that shoots Cambo take the lens bars off . It is so much nicer to get to the lens when working. Really not sure of there function except to protect lens and hang shades off it. You do need a 10T Torax and it is tight so you need full size screwdriver size to get them off. The holes are outside the opening so no light will come through. To me its like night and day without them.


    BTW did this without finder without Leica disto or any other accessory. I said this from day 1 of the IQ announcement and I can tell already the back will get you home. I have to give Phase credit for this but not for there wakeup cable. sorry guys this does not cut it with a long wake up cable. I know they where made for studio view cams but your forgetting the field tech guys and gals.
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    Guy - first I totally agree with your sentiments regarding the way too long wake up cable. I understand there's a shorter one - only it's a 2-parter and costs dearly. I've taken to wrapping the excess around the foot which seems to work and keep it the hell out of the way. If you find a shorter one piece cord let me know.

    Regarding the bull bars. My very first thought way back when was to remove the bars and I think I did for an afternoon before putting them back on. The bars do make it a little more difficult to reach the lens however they offer protection to the glass as well as offering another handhold. I keep my kit in either a pelican case or backpack and constantly use the bull bars to reach in and grab the lens. Just offering a slightly different take on them.
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    Guy

    Just sitting here thinking out loud - I'm off to the North Rim in a day and will be back late next week. Then off to Jackson Hole at the end of September for 2-months. Let me know if you want to get together for a quick down and dirty and I'll share my Schneider 72 and short barrel 120 with you. The 120 will blow you away with the amount of movements.

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    Yes let me know when your back in town by than I will be a millionaire selling short wake up cables. Lol
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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    cool, man.

    i am waiting delivery of a 160 as well, we can be 160/cambo buddies!

    except my lenses are t/s

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    John,

    I don't think Mrs. M appreciates comments like "my lenses are t/s."

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    Congrats Guy, glad to see you got the RS.

    I thought about removing the bars but with the HR glass I am a little antsy about being clumsy.

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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    I like having the bars.
    Like Don I just might use them to lift the cam occasionally. OK maybe all the time.
    I tried the TS lens and wondered how to pick the damn thing up.

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    I understand the having the bars thoughts for sure. Matter of preference for sure.

    John great news. Seriously the 160 on a tech cam is very very nice and a great choice.
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    Well this is a failed test but going to show it anyway, just because . This is a 3 shot vertical stitch with the 35XL WITHOUT a center filter and I stitched 15 degrees in either direction. Frankly not sure i need the middle frame as there is a lot of overlap. Anyway on both left and right my LCC where made but for some reason C1 was giving me a warning on color casts for these two LCC frames. I think without the center filter could be the cause, not sure or its just buggy C1 in Lion which would not surprise me AT ALL, C1 is buggy right now in Lion no doubt in my mind. So its off but i totally believe with a CF on the lens and correct LCC you can go 15 degrees all around safely. I will retest that when the center filter comes Monday. Little bit of a tough image since daylight is coming in the left and causing a pretty good shadow off the cabinet. I think this was a good exercise though and worth the effort to have this figured out before serious shooting. The one gift here is my 35mm gets really wide with stitching, this is just awesome. Oh and I do have 5 degrees of rise in this as well.
    One other thing I should mention I focused right on the cookbook in live view mode at 100 percent and it is a nice feature to have for alignment and focusing. Now outside it will be harder to work with but inside a real gem of a feature. I am eating a little crow here on my views on live view, its better than I thought it would be and useful.


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    Just to add , I am having a hard time with C1 right now with Lion. So hoping Lion 10.7.2 and next update to C1 fix all this. I might even try reloading C1. Getting lots of beach balls
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    Just for fun wanted to see how much wider the image gets with stitching. This is just a straight 35mm horizontal shot

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    Re: Okay I'm in the tech cam world.

    I'm not using a wakeup cable. I use zero latency and keep a couple of batteries in my pocket.

    On cables in general I've ordered a custom short sync to mini jack cable from Paramount - I'll post when it shows up.

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