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  • Never. I don't care about paying 10x as much for 10% more quality.

    16 17.39%
  • C'mon, D800 will never match DoF, dynamic range and microcontrast of my Phase One!

    34 36.96%
  • I'm into tech cams.Won't give up Rodesntocks & stitching, even if that luxury costs me 40k more!

    15 16.30%
  • Damn. I just sold off my Canon/Nikon gear to get into MFD!

    8 8.70%
  • If that Zeiss/Leica glass on the D800E performs as I think it should ... EBAY here I come!

    5 5.43%
  • I just preordered a D800E. Hell it's cheaper than that MFD lens I'm longing for!

    14 15.22%
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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by djonesii View Post
    I was at the workshop that Guy mentioned.

    There were indeed MANY backs there, and this was their niche .... fine art landscape with an IQ180 is simply stunning. Due the the physics of wide angle lenses and DOF/DOV, I really don't understand how a D800 or even a D900 with twice the mega pixels would influence my decision about the lust for a technical camera to shoot in that niche.

    At the same time, I shoot sports, as did some other folks at that work shop, and many, if not most had some variety of canikon sitting at home in the closet with some very nice pro level glass. Simple the wrong horse for this course.

    That said, one day, a B2 and it's escort passed over head. While most were marveling looking up, I was rushing to my camera bag, pulling out a lowly G3 with a 100-300 and then getting the photo. As near as I know, I was the only one at the workshop to get that shot. So in this very limited niche, the Pany G3 smoked the IQ180 ..... does that mean I should give up on MFDB?
    ( will post the image soon )

    No matter how you slice it, a generalist will never beat a specialist when looking at a specialty! You may get close, and be willing to make compromises, but in their niche, MFDB rules. Surly challenged, and defiantly the laws of diminishing marginal returns hold, but to get the absolute best fine art images, ( assuming the muse is equal for all ) MFDB will still be required.

    I say that with a certainty that ignores some truly disruptive technology yet to be invented. A new 3D live-viewing immersion display will sway me, but as long as we are putting 3D images on 2D displays, MFDB is my choice for fine art work, landscape or studio.

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    You need to post the image of the B2 It was pretty cool to see that flying overhead that afternoon.
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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bryan Stephens View Post
    Dave

    You need to post the image of the B2 It was pretty cool to see that flying overhead that afternoon.
    Follow this link as it was shot with a m4/3....

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/4-3rds...tml#post390506


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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    I don't even own MF digital gear yet, but I certainly won't choose a D800 instead. The files from digital backs are just different animals. I've often heard this said, but now that I've shot some and edited the files, I believe it.

    In fairness, I believe that you can capture as much information with a panorama head and bracketed exposures, and that, with practice and a streamlined workflow, get fabulous images without going insane, but ... damn! the files from an IQ160 are nice.

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    +1
    If I could afford it, I would be shooting my landscapes with a DMF back and a technical camera and not with a 5D2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    I don't even own MF digital gear yet, but I certainly won't choose a D800 instead. The files from digital backs are just different animals. I've often heard this said, but now that I've shot some and edited the files, I believe it.

    In fairness, I believe that you can capture as much information with a panorama head and bracketed exposures, and that, with practice and a streamlined workflow, get fabulous images without going insane, but ... damn! the files from an IQ160 are nice.

    Matt

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    i missed this discussion and there r too many post to read. i need to know what to do with my s2 and h4d-50. should i sell it all and get a d800e. please help me make a decision.

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    i missed this discussion and there r too many post to read. i need to know what to do with my s2 and h4d-50. should i sell it all and get a d800e. please help me make a decision.
    I feel sorry for you. Tell you what. I will give you $3000 for your old used S2 so you can go and buy a brand new shiny D800. For an extra $300, I will also take the H4D so you can get the D800E

    No one even accused me of being ungenerous...especially with someone else's stuff.

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    I'll give ya 5 k for both. ROTFLMAO

    Seriously keep what you have unless you want a D800 than still keep what you have.
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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    i missed this discussion and there r too many post to read. i need to know what to do with my s2 and h4d-50. should i sell it all and get a d800e. please help me make a decision.
    if I didn't know of you, I would think this is a troll post to ignite more pointless megapixel count arguments

    What are you using the S2 and H4D/50 for? What are the applications?

    It may be that for what you shoot, the D800 will suffice and be as much as you need. Since the D800 isn't all that expensive, you could get it and see if it does all you want BEFORE selling off your S2 and H4D/50?

    You may find that a good strategy may be to upgrade to a H4D/60, get the D800 and sell the S2.

    I'd consider giving you $10,000 and pay for your D800 in trade for the S2 body in a New York heart beat

    But before you do anything ... I'd read this Nikon Tech Guide carefully ... it clearly recommends techniques that are the same as those employed by MFD users to get the benefits of 36 meg. In other words, your shooting experiences aren't going to change much. As an editorial comment, The examples "shot by professionals" that are shown in this guide are particularly unimpressive.

    http://www.nikonusa.com/en_US/o/Y6wr...alGuide_En.pdf

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Im saving for 645df and p65+ , and i would like to see when d800/e is published some sample images compared to example p40/iq140 and s2. After that people would see how much the sensor size matters ex. for detail.

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    i was just kidding guys. every time i see comparison likes this, makes me laugh. so i am not selling my h4d50 and s2 in favor of d800 (e). though i am getting one.

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Oh, I thought you hit the tone perfectly.

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    ... so i am not selling my h4d50 and s2 in favor of d800 (e)...
    yes, that is the problem

    I still miss the flood of digital backs for little money in ebay - even the flood for a lot of money

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by msadat View Post
    i was just kidding guys. every time i see comparison likes this, makes me laugh. so i am not selling my h4d50 and s2 in favor of d800 (e). though i am getting one.
    The interesting, perhaps telling thing, is that even those who know you took you seriously

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by KeithL View Post
    The interesting, perhaps telling thing, is that even those who know you took you seriously
    $3000 is not a serious offer for an S2, even a used one.

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    I will sell my MFD gear if someone locks this thread...

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    That's too easy to do. LOL
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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    I don't even own MF digital gear yet, but I certainly won't choose a D800 instead. The files from digital backs are just different animals. I've often heard this said, but now that I've shot some and edited the files, I believe it.

    In fairness, I believe that you can capture as much information with a panorama head and bracketed exposures, and that, with practice and a streamlined workflow, get fabulous images without going insane, but ... damn! the files from an IQ160 are nice.

    Matt
    Very true. Nothing makes you a believer in the benefits of MFDB files faster than capturing, processing and manipulating a few of them for yourself. And once you print them, there's no going back!

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    Re: POLL: Will you sell your MFD gear if the D800 holds good on its promise?

    Guys, it's mostly about budget. If you already financed an IQ180 then you obviously can afford the best. A better DSLR is great for a tight budget. Budget is always the #1 factor when selecting camera gear - if you can't afford it you can't. And if you have no financial constaints then why settle for less than the best.
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