carstenw
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Having, like all of us, read the announcements and wondered if it might make sense for me to save up for this camera and a couple or three lenses, I started looking at the lens list for my favorite focal lengths. The following is from David Farkas' blog:
24/2.8, 30/3.5 TS, 30-90/3.5, 35/2.5, 70/2.5, 100/3.5, 120/2.5, 180/3.5, 350/3.5
3 things stick out here:
1) This is a really nice lens lineup, both fast and extensive, wide and long. The 24/2.8 is going to trounce Hasselblad's software-assisted 28mm, and probably everything else out there in MF wide-land. The TS lens is very wide, and will also have some fanatic fans. The 30-90 is a little at the wide end, which surprises me. I had expected something more like a 45-90, but this is probably to appeal to 35mm-FF 24-70 users. The macro lens is both fast and well-placed in the range, compared to most MF macro lenses, given the Leica S2's sensor size. The 350/3.5 will keep Doug Herr interested, since it echoes the 280/4 It does need a 1.4x converter though.
2) There is a huge gap between the 35mm and the 70mm. This means no walk-around lens for 35mm-FF fans. What is really needed here is a 50mm f/2.0 or f/2.5. This gap is so large and obvious that I wondered if Leica had done it on purpose, to leave room for a later announcement of a special lens. Well, now I have ruined that, sorry However, I like standard lenses better than 35mm lenses, so for me that is not a problem.
3) A 100mm f/3.5 or f/2.5 is not enough for a portrait lens, as reported by David Farkas (f/3.5) and PDN Gear Guide (f/2.5). If Leica really wants to make a splash here, they need to not only dispatch the Zeiss 150mm f/4 and the Zeiss 180mm f/4, but perhaps more pertinently, the Zeiss 110mm f/2! 100mm on the S2 matches the 110mm of the Zeiss rather well, but we need an f/2 lens here, and one with characteristics at least as good as the Zeiss. Now, I am confident that Leica can do this, but they do need plan it.
The existing lens mockups don't look particularly large at the front element, leading me not only to think that they are trying to keep the lenses affordable, ie. in the typical MF price range of 2000-4000 EUR, in spite of their very high optical quality, but also that there is some room for more extravagant designs. The large individual elements required to move from 35mm-FF to MF will surely take up some of the design effort, but I would be surprised if Leica doesn't have at least one or two more exiting designs up their sleeve.
My suggested improved lens lineup would be the following:
24/2.8, 30/3.5 TS, 30-90/3.5, 35/2.5, 50/2, 70/2.5, 100/2, 120/2.5, 180/3.5, 350/3.5
I would personally probably shoot for the 35/2.5, 70/2.5 and 100/2, with the macro being added later. If there is no 100/2, I would buy the macro lens instead, but this would be a compromise, as a macro lens is too sharp for nice portraits. Softar needed in that case!
Comments?
24/2.8, 30/3.5 TS, 30-90/3.5, 35/2.5, 70/2.5, 100/3.5, 120/2.5, 180/3.5, 350/3.5
3 things stick out here:
1) This is a really nice lens lineup, both fast and extensive, wide and long. The 24/2.8 is going to trounce Hasselblad's software-assisted 28mm, and probably everything else out there in MF wide-land. The TS lens is very wide, and will also have some fanatic fans. The 30-90 is a little at the wide end, which surprises me. I had expected something more like a 45-90, but this is probably to appeal to 35mm-FF 24-70 users. The macro lens is both fast and well-placed in the range, compared to most MF macro lenses, given the Leica S2's sensor size. The 350/3.5 will keep Doug Herr interested, since it echoes the 280/4 It does need a 1.4x converter though.
2) There is a huge gap between the 35mm and the 70mm. This means no walk-around lens for 35mm-FF fans. What is really needed here is a 50mm f/2.0 or f/2.5. This gap is so large and obvious that I wondered if Leica had done it on purpose, to leave room for a later announcement of a special lens. Well, now I have ruined that, sorry However, I like standard lenses better than 35mm lenses, so for me that is not a problem.
3) A 100mm f/3.5 or f/2.5 is not enough for a portrait lens, as reported by David Farkas (f/3.5) and PDN Gear Guide (f/2.5). If Leica really wants to make a splash here, they need to not only dispatch the Zeiss 150mm f/4 and the Zeiss 180mm f/4, but perhaps more pertinently, the Zeiss 110mm f/2! 100mm on the S2 matches the 110mm of the Zeiss rather well, but we need an f/2 lens here, and one with characteristics at least as good as the Zeiss. Now, I am confident that Leica can do this, but they do need plan it.
The existing lens mockups don't look particularly large at the front element, leading me not only to think that they are trying to keep the lenses affordable, ie. in the typical MF price range of 2000-4000 EUR, in spite of their very high optical quality, but also that there is some room for more extravagant designs. The large individual elements required to move from 35mm-FF to MF will surely take up some of the design effort, but I would be surprised if Leica doesn't have at least one or two more exiting designs up their sleeve.
My suggested improved lens lineup would be the following:
24/2.8, 30/3.5 TS, 30-90/3.5, 35/2.5, 50/2, 70/2.5, 100/2, 120/2.5, 180/3.5, 350/3.5
I would personally probably shoot for the 35/2.5, 70/2.5 and 100/2, with the macro being added later. If there is no 100/2, I would buy the macro lens instead, but this would be a compromise, as a macro lens is too sharp for nice portraits. Softar needed in that case!
Comments?