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    Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Today, in Yosemite, as I was venturing into the Merced for a more interesting composition, a leg of my tripod bumped a rock, and my Aptus-II 12 popped right off and fell into the water. Really. I am not joking when I say it was fully submerged.

    I felt so appallingly stupid.

    I dried it out by setting it on a heater blowing on "high" for about eight hours, cleaned the sensor and glass thoroughly, and, thank god, it seems to be working fine. Fortunately, the Merced is fresh water. To say that this was one of the worst days of my life, however, would not be an understatement.
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    lucky you

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by drevil View Post
    lucky you
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Blimey.. I had to fish out my Linhof Technika from 3m of dirty water at the lake last October.. and i remember how it felt.. And i remember saying myself "if it were not mechanical - i'd give up right away b/c there is no way it would survive". And here - miracle story of digital survival.. Good for you!

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Wow I know Yair would love to hear this as a Leaf rep. But I would send it in and have it checked out. My worry is corrosion could start . So they may want to clean the electronics off.

    I will say very very lucky . Go buy some lottery tickets. LOL
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Gabe,

    I would still get the back checked by Leaf. Problems can appear later.

    However, still lucking you.

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    Probably the last thing on your mind, but a P&S camera would have been an awesome record of photos. Seeing "real world" Leaf-tough is pretty effective marketing.... I can imagine the stunned look of horror and hearing the sickening "plop" in the water.... hope the rest of your trip was good and much more uneventful!
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Last thing on your mind, but a P&S camera would have been an awesome record of photos. Seeing "real world" Leaf-tough is pretty effective marketing.... I can imagine the stunned look of horror and hearing the sickening "plop" in the water....
    Gabe next time you go out let us know and we'll send a film crew along:-)

    Having accidentally thrown an Aptus across a studio and seeing it jumping and rolling on the concrete floor and then putting it back on the RZ and shooing as if nothing happened I know these buggers are tough. I also know what it feels like when you pick it up after the incident...

    On a serious note I would suggest sending it to MAC for a service check as there could always be some damage to circuit boards etc. and if you're insured then it would help your peace of mind

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    for sale... lightly used leaf back...

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by bradhusick View Post
    for sale... lightly used leaf back...

    clean....only used in fresh water....
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    I am not convinced that Leaf backs are submersible. Perhaps you can try it again just to be sure...
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    That's amazing, can someone try with Phase One now ?

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Santoso View Post
    That's amazing, can someone try with Phase One now ?
    I'll take a rain check instead. LOL
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Guy.. Can you try with your P1 IQ? Mine is not available

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Two things: in the future, rinse (perhaps) in alcohol to take the residue off....

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    glad this happened, so that we know the limits now!

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Landscapelover View Post
    Guy.. Can you try with your P1 IQ? Mine is not available
    LOL mine is glued on the Cambo. LOL

    Actually folks a word of caution and a just in case thing. I put a piece of gaffers tape on my backs release button. Every once in awhile I notice it slid back to release position. I know its ugly but its better than balling your eyes out when murphy's law plays games on you.
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Geoff View Post
    in the future, rinse (perhaps) in alcohol to take the residue off....
    The back, or the photographer?

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Always photographer first . Photo 101 basic course. lesson 1 A . LOL
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by yaya View Post
    Having accidentally thrown an Aptus across a studio and seeing it jumping and rolling on the concrete floor and then putting it back on the RZ and shooing as if nothing happened I know these buggers are tough. I also know what it feels like when you pick it up after the incident...
    My prior Leaf dropped onto hard wood floor and bounced and rolled like a ball. Nonetheless it worked flawless thereafter!

    No, no no... that was NOT why I upgraded. However I can praise the Leaf external battery that acted as a crash cushion. That battery though looked kaputt and went into trash...

    Sorry my AFi-II 12 is not available for any testing.

    Love my Leaf

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    P.S. Any real life action experience of P1 backs, in particular the IQs??? Or is it limited to the "staged" videos from P1 only???

    Guy, Jack, how about dropping or throwing your IQ backs for us???
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I know its ugly but its better than balling your eyes out when murphy's law plays games on you.
    Hmm, I have practical experience of Mr Murphy and expensive digital equipment! I'll spare the delicate feelings of my fellow digital back owners and not post the picture of my Aptus 65M after it's argument with my Alpa.

    Ok, I changed my mind. Be careful out there folks otherwise you'll suffer this kind of sight! (and yes it did get fixed, mostly at least)

    Remember: adventure before dementia!

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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders_HK View Post
    My prior Leaf dropped onto hard wood floor and bounced and rolled like a ball. Nonetheless it worked flawless thereafter!

    No, no no... that was NOT why I upgraded. However I can praise the Leaf external battery that acted as a crash cushion. That battery though looked kaputt and went into trash...

    Sorry my AFi-II 12 is not available for any testing.

    Love my Leaf

    Best regards,
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    P.S. Any real life action experience of P1 backs, in particular the IQs??? Or is it limited to the "staged" videos from P1 only???

    Guy, Jack, how about dropping or throwing your IQ backs for us???

    It depends on how healthy your credit card is and BTW I have been knocking my backs release off recently. I SUGGEST folks you may want to think about gaffers tape on it. If I already posted this than it bears repeating.

    So it's ugly who cares. This is ART
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anders_HK View Post
    My prior Leaf dropped onto hard wood floor and bounced and rolled like a ball. Nonetheless it worked flawless thereafter!

    No, no no... that was NOT why I upgraded. However I can praise the Leaf external battery that acted as a crash cushion. That battery though looked kaputt and went into trash...

    Sorry my AFi-II 12 is not available for any testing.

    Love my Leaf

    Best regards,
    Anders

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    P.S. Any real life action experience of P1 backs, in particular the IQs??? Or is it limited to the "staged" videos from P1 only???

    Guy, Jack, how about dropping or throwing your IQ backs for us???


    Mine has dropped onto cement, and a dusty desert floor. Then, several feet under water. While I would never have guessed it, these things are actually really well-crafted. That said, mine looks like absolute crap -- tape residue all over it, scuff marks, scratches on the screen. Yeah, it's apparently used. I dare say the most "used" Aptus-II 12 there is at this time.

    I can only imagine the prospective questions should I decide to sell on this forum: "So. . .that's the same back that was dropped on countless occasions, and submerged. . .?"

    Yes. Yes, it is.
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    Re: Apparently, Leaf backs are submersible.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    It depends on how healthy your credit card is and BTW I have been knocking my backs release off recently. I SUGGEST folks you may want to think about gaffers tape on it. If I already posted this than it bears repeating.

    So it's ugly who cares. This is ART
    Two responses to you, Guy -- first. Liquor for the photographer, first. While painfully waiting for my Aptus-II 12 to dry out, I was hitting the bottle pretty hard. In the case you're familiar with the term, "FML" was all I could think about.

    Second, I've started using Gorilla Tape to secure my back to my camera -- tech or otherwise. It's incredibly strong, sticky, and helps keep dust out.

    Also, as Yair suggested, I'll be sending my Aptus into MAC for inspection shortly. While it is working now, I don't want to have it arbitrarily stop working later. Still -- damn impressed by what this thing has stood up to. If only I'd have taken video or images of what mine has endured, you'd all feel the same.
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