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    New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Phase One introduces two specialist high-end camera systems - British Journal of Photography

    With interest I see that Phase One has now understood that for many applications a mirrorless Body is the only way to go. it shows that Hartblei was -again- dead right with our HCam-B1. And again we are copied as with the lenses. But there is a big difference - we use the Canon Bajonett mount and can go much shorter with wideangles whereas the Phase Solution is limited for 28mm and the Flange focal range of the Phase lenses.
    I think it also may be discussed as how good the life view may work without an alternative finder. But definitely if there is a CMOS coming this is the right move .

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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    I have the press releases here to load up. Get to it in a bit
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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    1) Phase One iXA Medium Format Aerial Camera System

    2) Phase One iXR Dedicated Digital Reproduction Camera System

    THE TWO*PRESS RELEASES:

    Phase One Launches iXA*

    Medium Format Aerial Camera System

    Dedicated medium-format aerial photography camera system delivers exceptional image quality and value

    COPENHAGEN, April 02, 2012--Phase One, the world’s leading pro photography equipment provider, *today announced the Phase One iXA camera system, a fully integrated aerial camera system specifically designed to meet the exacting needs of aerial photography, with features that rival large-format cameras at a fraction of their price.

    Developed with leading experts and engineers in the field, the iXA has been built to streamlines the image capture and processing workflow. This camera is a major addition to existing aerial camera implementations that Phase One already provides to its partners in the industry. *With a choice of 80 megapixel or 60 megapixel models, in either RGB or NIR versions, the iXA is easily incorporated into existing or new systems, making it the perfect solution for both integrators and end users looking for a rugged, high-quality robust aerial camera system.*

    The Phase One iXA’s rugged construction incorporates 6061 aluminum alloy to enable a robust solution capable of superior performance under tough aerial conditions, while secured connectors firmly hold cables in place. Designed for flexibility and scalability, the iXA operates effectively either in single or in a multiple camera configuration, capturing synchronized images within 100 microseconds of each other and eliminating post production sync issues. *

    The Phase One iXA offers high dynamic range and detailed image quality, with outstanding image sharpness and excellent color with Phase One’s range of Schneider-Kreuznach internal electronically controlled leaf shutters and Phase One digital lenses. The Phase One SDK software provides control over critical exposure parameters such as ISO, shutter speed, aperture and capture during the flight and includes interface components for custom applications to work with the iXA camera system in a production set up. *

    The Phase One iXA camera system is developed manufactured by Phase One Industrial, a division which was formed in 2011 with a focus on providing advanced imaging solutions for special applications such as aerial photogrammetry, machine vision and fine art reproduction. These growing market segments will benefit from two decades of high-end photographic equipment and imaging software development experience.

    Dov Kalinski, General Manger of Phase One Industrial said, "The iXA camera system offers great value to the market with its extremely high performance and cost-effective price. Phase One has spared no effort in developing a truly integrated aerial camera system."*

    Listed at just 45,000 EUR / 60,000 USD for the 80MP version and 40,000 EUR / 53,000 USD for the 60MP version, the iXA offers a highly competitive price performance ratio that is second to none in the medium/large format aerial photography market. Shipping for the iXA camera system will commence as of May, 2012.*

    For additional information, please visit Phase One Industrial Products *

    For sales inquiries please write to [email protected]

    About Phase One * *

    Phase One is the world’s leader in open-platform based medium format camera systems and solutions. Phase One medium format cameras, digital backs and lenses are designed to deliver superior quality image capture and investment value. Phase One’s Capture One and Media Pro software helps streamline capture and post-production processes for both medium format and DSLR cameras. Phase One products are known for their quality, flexibility and speed enabling pro photographers shooting in a wide range of formats to achieve their creative visions without compromise. *
    For more information, please visit Phase One at camera systems and image software. Follow Phase One on Twitter at Phase One (@PhaseOneWW) on Twitter and on Facebook at: http://www.facebook.com/pages/Phase-...4811514906561*



    Phase One Introduces the iXR*

    Dedicated Digital Reproduction Camera System

    Fully integrated medium-format digital reproduction camera system enables control over the entire image reproduction workflow

    COPENHAGEN, April 02, 2012 -- Phase One, the world’s leading pro photography equipment provider, today announced the Phase One iXR camera system -- the world’s first medium format dedicated digital reproduction camera system.*

    The Phase One iXR is a robust, fully-integrated digital camera system designed to excel at high-quality digitization such as fine art reproduction and diverse industrial applications. The Phase One iXR’s outstanding image quality, full automation and rugged engineering make it a compelling new solution for digital reproduction.

    The Phase One iXR was built from the ground up to meet the exacting needs of the reproduction photographer and was designed to streamline workflow by enabling full control of the entire process. Using the iXR camera system with Phase One’s Capture One workflow software, photographers can take advantage of remote focus and easily move from live view to capture at the click of a mouse. The iXR incorporates a rugged industrial design that has done away with both the mirror and viewfinder to reduce moving parts and subsequent vibrations; its tough aircraft grade aluminum alloy camera body delivers a real workhorse solution capable of high-quality performance under the most demanding conditions.*

    The Phase One iXR is one of the first products being offered by Phase One Industrial. Formed in 2011, Phase One Industrial is a division of Phase One dedicated to research, development and manufacturing of specialized industrial camera systems. Phase One Industrial camera systems are built specifically for industrial applications such as fine art reproduction, machine vision and aerial photogrammetry and provide advanced hardware and imaging software solutions that meet the unique requirements of their users.

    Dov Kalinski, General Manger of Phase One Industrial said, "We are very proud of the new Phase One iXR camera system and its elegant combination of medium format image quality and robust industrial design that offers photographers full control over their entire workflows. A new camera body, Phase One’s Capture One workflow software and high-end optics offer a full-package solution for the reproduction industry."

    The iXR camera system is available in three different configurations – 80MP, 60MP and 40MP. The iXR is also available as a stand-alone camera body for existing Phase One digital back owners. Prices for a complete iXR camera system including lens begin at EUR 22,990 / USD 29,990. The iXR will be available for shipping as of May, 2012. All orders and inquiries should be directed to Phase One’s worldwide network of professional photography partners at camera systems and image software.

    For additional information, please visit industrial.phaseone.com *

    About Phase One

    Phase One is the world’s leader in open-platform based medium format camera systems and solutions. Phase One medium format cameras, digital backs and lenses are designed to deliver superior quality image capture and investment value.Phase One’s Capture One and Media Pro software helps streamline capture and post-production processes for both medium format and DSLR cameras. Phase One products are known for their quality, flexibility and speed enabling pro photographers shooting in a wide range of formats to achieve their creative visions without compromise. *

    For more information, please visit Phase One at camera systems and image software. Follow Phase One on Twitter at Phase One (@PhaseOneWW) on Twitter and on Facebook at: Phase One | Facebook * Phase One is an employee-owned company based in Copenhagen with offices in New York, London, Tokyo, Cologne and Hong Kong. **



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    And for a second I thought it is something interesting.... back to sleep

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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    These are intended for very specialized markets: Art Repro and Aerial Photography.

    Both require:
    - very good lens quality, but no need for wide angles
    - very infrequent focusing (focus once, shoot many frames)
    - very physically stable cameras (lots of vibration in a plane shaking the camera, desire for extremely little shutter vibration in art repro when using continuous lights)
    - focus that is fully lockable and won't drift, even a little, even over the course of many hours/days
    - the ability to change settings remotely (camera is under plane or mounted on repro stand)
    - extreme durability, both markets may take 10,000 photos a day, every day, for years.

    Even if this isn't a camera body that is intended for landscape, architecture, fashion, portrait, or any other "standard" photography. That doesn't mean this announcement shouldn't interest anyone here. This announcement has several implications:
    - Team Phase One is financially sound enough to take on MAJOR specialty projects at the same time they are working on more mainstream products
    - Phase One has done the R+D and IP for mirror less bodies, high-durability bodies, remote controllability, and focus which doesn't drift when the camera is oriented vertically.

    I'm not saying all these features would make it to a future body. But research for specialty products often influence features/design of mainstream products.
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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Have to say the title to this thread is completely misleading. It should read Phase introduces two specialized cameras. Nothing more nothing less and not a advertising plug for something else.
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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    As a point of interest regarding speciality cameras Digital Transitions Department of Cultural Heritage developed it's own camera body for similar reasons, the RCAM. The RCAM is installed at many of the countries most revered institutions. I just got back from Princeton which just added two more RCAMs last week (beautiful campus by the way!).

    Both the RCAM and the Phase One iXR allow Art Reproduction clients a body with no viewfinder, leaf shutter lenses (nearly zero net motion when the shutter fires), remote control of aperture/shutter/shutter-release. The difference? Lens choices. The iXR uses the same lenses as the Phase One DF, while the RCAM uses Schneider and Rodenstock digital lenses.
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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    So this is the camera body that has been hinted at recently but obviously not the one that the majority of us are waiting for.

    So it seems the DF replacement is still some way off into the future.

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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    And for a second I thought it is something interesting.... back to sleep
    I have to agree with this. This is just another digital back. The "mirrorless body" is highly misleading in the current day/technology context.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I have to agree with this. This is just another digital back. The "mirrorless body" is highly misleading in the current day/technology context.

    I don't think anyone was expecting anything on a more mainstream camera body until later this year or early next anyway. This is a nice little bonus. And while I agree the technologies in these cameras are not apples and apples equivalents to the same technology in say, a 645 camera body, I strongly believe it does present challenges and learning opportunities on many different fronts, including an interior camera that communicates fully with lens and digital back with no mirror assembly or electronics to control it that must communicate with other components.

    There are also some advanced communications enabled (single power source, multiple camera configurations, etc.) that can provide good experience for a future camera that starts from scratch, from an electronics standpoint. While I don't expect a mainstream 645 (or thereabouts) camera to have the same build quality as these industrial designs, it is nice to see a working camera that certainly defies the term "plasticky".


    I find it very positive, even from the standpoint of Phase One's success. It makes perfect sense for them to leverage and diversify their technology.


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    I certainly would like to see how Phase has overcome the 'Traveling' 110 lens issue. My 110, along with others, will not stay in focus if tilted downward. The front of the lens simply slides/turns all the way out..... regardless if in manual or auto focus. That would make art repro impossible.... at least with that lens.

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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    If you're interested in some more of the technicals here is a quick blog entry on the Phase One iXA and iXR Cameras that includes features and a PDF of the brochure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Rubinstein View Post
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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Took delivery of a DF with 40 megapixel back for just 1000 euro less (and that was for a refurb!) specifically and only for use with a repro set up, just two weeks ago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Rubinstein View Post
    Took delivery of a DF with 40 megapixel back for just 1000 euro less (and that was for a refurb!) specifically and only for use with a repro set up, just two weeks ago.

    Surely you can work something out with your dealer. If this was presented to us from one of our customers, I see no issue standing in the way of that.


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    Ben, I'd talk to your dealer. If you took delivery two weeks ago I suspect they can work with you and Phase One to make sure you're happy with where you end up; we would. Of course I can't speak on their behalf. Let us know how it goes for you.

    Edit: oops, sorry for the double post Steve. But at least we agree!
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    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    So this is the camera body that has been hinted at recently but obviously not the one that the majority of us are waiting for.

    So it seems the DF replacement is still some way off into the future.
    Nonsense, Gareth! The Phase iXa aerial camera is the excuse you've been waiting for to buy your own airplane....



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    Man not sure i could even buy into that one and I'm certifiably nuts. LOL
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    Yes, it's one thing explaining to the wife you've bought a new set of Gitzo legs or Arca head to go with your new camera but an aeroplane!
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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    Yes, it's one thing explaining to the wife you've bought a new set of Gitzo legs or Arca head to go with your new camera but an aeroplane!
    Just think about the possibilities Gareth...a weekend away with you flying the thing...cameras and Gitzos can Still go in the back:-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by yaya View Post
    ...cameras and Gitzos can Still go in the back:-)
    But not the wife?
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    But not the wife?
    Wife AND kids if you get a King Air !
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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Yair - after buying the privat Boeing I still have a question-
    The Industrial site has some interesting infos:

    Industrial camera systems

    after reading through it and also the brochure - it seems there are no Leafs allowed on the iXA and the only backs that support clustering are the IQ´s. there are special cables available - is this a new feature or did the IQ´s support this from the beginning ?

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    Just think how much you could save on scanning...

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    Well this chap Richard Green in Australia uses a helicopter to access remote locations for his photography - Now he should really have an IXA!

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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    One thing is sure, Phase does not like to make cameras photographers would actually enjoying using. At least Linhof puts handles on their aerial cameras.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    So this is the camera body that has been hinted at recently but obviously not the one that the majority of us are waiting for.

    So it seems the DF replacement is still some way off into the future.
    C'mon, the process of extinction and replacement whereby dinosaurs give way to more well adapted life forms can take aeons...


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    So all of the cries for an improved body from the masses were overshadowed by the cries from all of the ariel photographers?

    Never knew that market was so big that it would command the focused R&D attention from Phase One ahead of the DF replacement.

    Crazy!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ddanois View Post
    So all of the cries for an improved body from the masses were overshadowed by the cries from all of the ariel photographers?

    Never knew that market was so big that it would command the focused R&D attention from Phase One ahead of the DF replacement.

    Crazy!
    If it actually can take the input from a GPS system to stamp the images, that would be valuable. But if it is just a box with remote capture to an on-board computer, that is less than exciting.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    If it actually can take the input from a GPS system to stamp the images, that would be valuable. But if it is just a box with remote capture to an on-board computer, that is less than exciting.
    The microscope cameras (film) were this sort with pretty much nothing. Digital made them redundant and they never progressed to the point of a date back.

    These aren't unlike the Kenko extension tubes for DSLRs.

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    Out of curiosity;

    Who fabricates these cameras for Phase One and in what country???

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    One thing is sure, Phase does not like to make cameras photographers would actually enjoying using. At least Linhof puts handles on their aerial cameras.
    The reason for the small footprint is that many (most) of the target market mounts the camera in some manner of leveling device, and the size-profile of the camera matters a lot there. Also, some in the target market will produce multi-camera systems, all of which must fit together into an apparatus which levels it and points out through a viewport in the bottom of the plane.

    This is not a "point out the side of a helicopter" aerial camera. Think more science and less art. The target market would have no problem at all adding a handle to the chassis in-house should they desire to add one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    If it actually can take the input from a GPS system to stamp the images, that would be valuable. But if it is just a box with remote capture to an on-board computer, that is less than exciting.
    It accepts GPS signals with a high degree of sophistication. It gets a bit technical, but most devices that accept GPS signals are at the mercy of an interval-limitation of the GPS device; this system will be able to sample even higher accuracy than that and synchronizes to the shutter release with extreme accuracy.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Anders_HK View Post
    Out of curiosity;

    Who fabricates these cameras for Phase One and in what country???
    Good question Anders!

    I must admit I never asked during our meetings. I'll check for you now.
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    I certainly would like to see how Phase has overcome the 'Traveling' 110 lens issue. My 110, along with others, will not stay in focus if tilted downward. The front of the lens simply slides/turns all the way out..... regardless if in manual or auto focus. That would make art repro impossible.... at least with that lens.

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    Have to say the title to this thread is completely misleading. It should read Phase introduces two specialized cameras. Nothing more nothing less and not a advertising plug for something else.
    +1

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    re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    The body is manufactured by Phase One Industrial in Israel.
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    The body is manufactured by Phase One Industrial in Israel.
    +1 , thanks.

    (+ wishful thinking that they also make a Hy6 II from there...)

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    So all of the cries for an improved body from the masses were overshadowed by the cries from all of the ariel photographers?

    Never knew that market was so big that it would command the focused R&D attention from Phase One ahead of the DF replacement.

    Crazy!
    They only need one buyer...... The one in the 5 sided building...... Think DRONES...... Lots of drones

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    Re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    i want phase one stocks...now

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    Re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Joe

    not to destroy your thoughts about military turnaround. But for their kind of applications the actual commercial backs are not good enough. I am sure there already exist large (maybe up to 4x5 inch) CMOS Chips with pixelpitches of 5Micron and below for aerial military purpose.

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    Re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Now that's something to hope for; can a 6x6 be far behind?

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    Re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

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    Now that's something to hope for; can a 6x6 be far behind?

    No, not far behind at all....for military budgets.....


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    Re: New Phase One ariel and repro cameras

    Quote Originally Posted by Joe View Post
    They only need one buyer...... The one in the 5 sided building...... Think DRONES...... Lots of drones
    You can forget military use. Not near as fast enough or reliable. Even Nikons 36 MP at 4fps would be way better.

    Military and aerospace uses are far more specific and mission critical.

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