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    Price of used p21+

    Considering current market craziness. What is a good condition used p21+ worth with 1 year warranty?

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    I don't know (does anyone?), but with the Sinar e54LV coming in at around 6000 Euro new, I would expect 4000-5000. On the other hand, it is an open question if it is possible to actually buy the e54LV at that price anywhere. That is just the list price...
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Quote Originally Posted by barry685 View Post
    Considering current market craziness. What is a good condition used p21+ worth with 1 year warranty?


    The current priceof this camera new with 1 Year Classic Warranty is $10,990
    If you take say 15-20% because it is used I would say it could have a value of $$8,500-$9,000


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    Re: Price of used p21+

    I'm also sitting and waiting to see what happens with the Phamiya/ P21+ prices.
    Megapixel wise the p21+ is perfect for what I do, I also shoot 90% of time tethered.
    I really wonder if Mamiya and Leaf are selling the DL 28 (?) for $15K what's a phamiya/P21+ new will sell for!
    just thinking our loud : )
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Well... today I took the plunge & got one for under 7k.

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Good for you . Don't let that 18 mpx sensor think for a moment it is less than any 35mm camera out there. It will kick some butt and take names doing it. Just wait until you see the images coming off that sensor. Oh la la. I have the P25 plus which is basically the same sensor just bigger frame and I am wanting for nothing.
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Now I need a body (mamiya afd II)

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    wow
    that was fast
    enjoy your new back
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Quote Originally Posted by barry685 View Post
    Now I need a body (mamiya afd II)
    Jack has a Phase One AFD III if your looking
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    I actually don't want a III because of the way the back focus button custom function works, so I prefer a II (and of course price).

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Hey Barry,
    Congrats on the P21+. I know you had your eye on one for a while. I am emailing you on the AFD II system. We have a few of them available.
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Quote Originally Posted by carstenw View Post
    I don't know (does anyone?), but with the Sinar e54LV coming in at around 6000 Euro new, I would expect 4000-5000. On the other hand, it is an open question if it is possible to actually buy the e54LV at that price anywhere. That is just the list price...
    True. The e54 is a larger sensor with more resolution, and Sinar's standard warranty is 3 years.

    All of this makes the P21+ worth 4K at most, imo.

    Carsten, as Thierry said, this back is available through the existing dealership or direct from the Sinar factory if you so choose.

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Foto-Z

    I actually do not want a larger sensor with more megapixels. I don't need it for the work that I do. I wanted a relatively small raw file size. Also Sinar simply doesn't do much of a marketing job in this country and really do not know anything about their backs.

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Hi Barry, if the P21+ is the perfect back for you then of course you should buy it. However market prices are generally determined by resolution and sensor size, which is how I valued the P21+ relative to the e54.

    It's a pity that you feel you don't have much information about the Sinar backs in NY but there are plenty of Sinar users here and on LL who are happy to help. Plus Thierry (Sinar rep) is an excellent help.

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    The P21+ was purchased yesterday.

    Regarding it's actual worth, the market is crazy now because of all the price reductions from Sinar, Hasselblad, and supposedly Mamiya Leaf, maybe next week It will be worth $4000.00.

    But last week 2 p21's (not +'s ) were sold for 6000 - 6500 on ebay.

    Regarding the value of megapixels I would say that is not necessarily true, look at the value of a ZD.

    In any case I know exactly what I purchased and actually think this will be the end of the line of my upgrades megapixel wise. I have gone thru the following:
    Kodak Dcs 560, Canon D60, 1ds, 5D, 1dsMKII.

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    I think anything less than 7k for a P21 plus back is a good deal. Still beats anything out there in 35mm for sure
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Quote Originally Posted by foto-z View Post
    Carsten, as Thierry said, this back is available through the existing dealership or direct from the Sinar factory if you so choose.
    Yes, I will explore all avenues when the money is there, thanks. Until then, I will just dream.
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    Re: Price of used p21+

    To the Capture Integration / Phase One team...

    Do you still sell some Phase One P21+? Kind hard finding any info on that anywhere but here. Thanks in advance for your answer

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    Re: Price of used p21+

    Checking on the P21+, they are scare out there. Think I have a p20+ I am double checking and will get back to you.
    Thanks for your interest.
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