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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

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    Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Well, there could be a very rare appearance of the Laban wallet.
    Here is a very rare appearence of a leather belt .
    Its "ALPA's pre PHOTOKINA model" .

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    This news is already out, but I think it´s pretty cool and it shall be available around photokina:

    CononMark Leopard location flash offers high speed sync | Lighting Rumours

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan Steib View Post
    This news is already out, but I think it´s pretty cool and it shall be available around photokina:

    CononMark Leopard location flash offers high speed sync | Lighting Rumours

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    Hi Stefan.Pretty cool new development. I wonder how HSS is achieved to such high shutter speeds and what the effective light is? Sounds like a wedding photographer's dream come true ... and now it will support Bowens mount modifiers.

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    there is even more - they have the remote control which is actually very cool and even better: an LED modeling light with 10 watts which is 3,5 times less energy consuming than the old 35w Halogen but probably twice or 3 times as bright !

    there are some videos about the previous model (see the remote!)

    G 4.0 400w Wireless Controlle Portable Studio Mobile Flash Strobe Light Kit bh28 | eBay

    I am not a wedding photographer , but I think I will get 3 of these (the old version only costs about 550 € with free shipment), 400 ws are plenty for digital and use them for small tabletop also !

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Is this a real hi-sync or just similar to the pocketwizard or the radiopopper system where it allows sync as long as you don't mind losing pretty much all the power at the higher end? I have the radiopopper system, I've never actually tried it out to see what the power drop off is but it's bound to be rather nasty. Hmm, maybe I should do some experimenting. Basically what all these systems are doing it playing with the timing on the trigger to make sure you catch the tail end of the flash while the shutter is fully open. It's a trigger based innovation rather than a flash based one.

    Unless this one is different and I'd love it to be so!
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    As I read it from the specs it uses HSS as the Canon-Nikon flashes with reduced power like a permanent light (actually flickering very, very fast).

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefan Steib View Post
    As I read it from the specs it uses HSS as the Canon-Nikon flashes with reduced power like a permanent light (actually flickering very, very fast).

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    The question then becomes "how reduced" ... given that the top 400 w/s power level at full duration is 4X+ that of a speed-light, I wonder what w/s is used for the pulsing ... if the same effective w/s as a speed-light there is no gain except the use of better modifiers off-set by more to carry and set-up, but even if 2X that of a speed-light, it could be interesting.

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Very interesting! I didn't imagine that it could pulse. Next question will be what the shot to shot reliability and colour will be when pulsing, the chinese strobes have a rather bad reputation for this in general. Not expecting Profoto but even reaching Bowens or cheap Elinchroms would be incredible if it will pulse as well.

    Marc will agree with me on this, as wedding photographers, cool tricks count for nothing if you don't have reliability and other than war photography, wedding work is pretty much the test of gears reliability, Mr Murphy is more present at weddings than any other type of shooting in my experience . The pocketwizard TTL system works fine but most wedding photographers won't use it because it's just too unreliable and complicated for this kind of work. It's the same reason most don't use 'strobist' gear, it's cool, it's fun but it isn't reliable enough. Whether these are, unlike most chinese strobes and flashes (this will of course change in time, remember in the '80's the popular term 'Japanese junk' was used to describe any Japanese electrical goods), remains to be seen.
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    maybe a powered firewire repeater that can be used with batteries to face the apple thunderbolt problem with backs such as Leaf Aptus II...

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Regardless of an improved next generation DF body, the real weak link imho is the lack of a really kick-*** wide angle lens option ala Schneider (and in the same quality vein as the venerable 150D). Even if expensive (5K+), it would still be a less expensive option than buying a technical camera system. I'd like to see new wide angle lens offerings for the DF...

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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    I would be happy to see a really robust and well made light weight travel shoot-through umbrella.
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelS View Post
    Last year Phase One announced it had 11 new lenses in the pipe shortly before it announced the 75-150 and 240LS lenses. Hopefully, wider LS lenses.
    Hmm, neither of which you can actually obtain ...

    Based on that rate they could announce two new bodies, a 20 stop DR 160MP digital back with wireless live view to an iPad and 20 more lenses and it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference ... because we never actually get to be able to buy them.
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I would be happy to see a really robust and well made light weight travel shoot-through umbrella.
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Hmm, neither of which you can actually obtain ...

    Based on that rate they could announce two new bodies, a 20 stop DR 160MP digital back with wireless live view to an iPad and 20 more lenses and it wouldn't make a blind bit of difference ... because we never actually get to be able to buy them.
    You left off USB3

    (OK, cheap shot. And I promised Doug P. that I would stop. Sorry.)

    And speaking of robust and light-weight: that's a pretty exclusive club right there. I'd be happy with any additions to it.
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    I would like to attend Photokinia. Waiting for my free ticket , anyone want to send me.
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I would like to attend Photokinia. Waiting for my free ticket , anyone want to send me.
    Guy, no problem, I'll happily get you an admission ticket and a catalogue. The freebie flights, accommodation and entertainment budget alas ...

    Quote Originally Posted by MGrayson View Post
    You left off USB3

    (OK, cheap shot. And I promised Doug P. that I would stop. Sorry.)
    And speaking of robust and light-weight: that's a pretty exclusive club right there. I'd be happy with any additions to it.
    Look on the bright side, you've got a Cambo and I've got an Alpa so we have our own supply issues there. However, at least we don't have an Arca-Swiss where the mention of two words may send the remaining owners in to convulsions - can we say 'e-module'??
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    Re: Any exciting new things coming out during Photokina 2012?

    My entertainment budget requires at least 1 credit card and a lot of cash. ROTFLMAO
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    Oh boy. Something special coming in a few days time

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