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    Gitzo question

    I have happily used a featherlight Gitzo 2 series with the Linhof micro 3d head and Aptus II 5.
    Now with the Credo 60 I realize that the 2 series simply isn't sturdy enough...I get slight motionblur that I didn't see before on longish exposures.

    I do have a Gitzo G1500 as well which is rock solid even in windy conditions BUT there's a price - it weighs a ton! I took away the centrecolumn and that saved me 1kg. Good, but not good enough.

    I have looked at new Gitzo legs in the 5 series but in Sweden they cost a fortune, so I was wondering, would it be possible to exchange my upper/outside legs to carbon and use the innerlegs and topplate? (that would probably save me up to another 2kg)

    I have asked this question to the distributor in Sweden two weeks ago but still no answer, so I thought I throw out the question here as well!
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Dan,

    Congratulations on your new Leaf Credo! Unfortunately, the bleeding wallet rarely stops at the initial MFDB acquisition, and runs over to accessories as well---that is, high resolution MFDBs seem to require higher end (cost) accessories to complement the system.

    I think you'd be better off just biting the bullet and buying a new CF Gitzo (you know you want it anyway) or seriously consider the new RRS TVC tripods (not sure of international shipping).

    I use a TVC-24 as my lightweight tripod and a Gitzo 5541LS as my larger tripod. (Cambo WRS 1050 or Phase DF with IQ180). I prefer the RRS tripod over the Gitzo, and if the 5541LS weren't so newish, I'd go for the TVC-33 as my larger tripod.

    Again, congratulations and make sure to show pictures of your Credo on your new carbon fiber tripod....


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    Thanks in all regards! The Credo is just completely wonderful and I am over the moon. I am not used to such big files and the elasticity in pp. Amazing!

    True, investments in this segment seems to never end, bags, big glassfilters, heads and tripodlegs, computerpower etc etc.
    The good side of this is that looking at the very high end of everything, every piece you do get will last you either many many years or even your lifetime.

    The legs I fell in love with are the Gitzo 5562lts, 6 sections that at first seems like a big hazzle unfolding/folding, but with the right technique is really fast. The benefit is that it will fit inside a large camerabag. The alternative are ofcourse the 5542! Yes, I do want one of those... but here in Sweden the 5562lts retails at $1 500 for the legs only

    But, being in this segment, we all know that sooner or later it will be in the bag
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    Re: Gitzo question

    I've bought a GT3542LS... but sometimes, i'd like to have the GT5562GTS because of height... but the weight : 1,96kg vs 3,6 kg...

    For my use, the GT3542LS is good enought... but i will probably buy a GT5562GTS as well...

    So if i was in your shoes, i will go with the GT5562GTS directly !

    By the way, there's a discount in paris at the moment... 20% off (prophot, but probably others shops as well ! )

    GT3542LS
    Series: 3
    Sections: 4
    Max height: 146.5 cm/57.7”

    GT5562GTS
    Series: 5
    Sections: 6
    Max height: 277 cm/109.1”


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    Re: Gitzo question

    B&H Photo here in the US, sells it for $1200 and ships internationally.

    You know, I'm sure your friends here can help, if RRS doesn't ship international either, I've found personally emailing companies that don't offer int'l shipping on websites, and someone is maybe friendly enough to help make things happen!
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    Re: Gitzo question

    I don't think you can mix and match leg tube material because the wall thickness of the tubes are not the same.

    Why not try a Manfrotto tripod which are usually cheaper than Gitzo? Other manufacturers exist as well.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    Quote Originally Posted by pophoto View Post
    B&H Photo here in the US, sells it for $1200 and ships internationally.

    You know, I'm sure your friends here can help, if RRS doesn't ship international either, I've found personally emailing companies that don't offer int'l shipping on websites, and someone is maybe friendly enough to help make things happen!
    +1

    Dan, RRS is a very service-oriented business located on the central coast of CA. I bet RRS can work something out, or someone else from the GetDPI family can help...

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    Re: Gitzo question

    I have the RRS TVC and Gitzo 5561SGT. The Gitzo is a beast but it is absolutely my favourite tripod bar none. It is heavy but the versatility is unmatched.

    The RRS tripods are similar to the Gitzo's but in my view are much better made. Another great investment.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    archivue: 5562GTS gets incredibly high! you would need a tall ladder with you...

    pophoto: customs in Sweden adds the difference from B&H...

    shashin: I think you are right! Legs don't mix. I must forget that idea, never works to be a cheapshot

    My eyes are set on 5562LTS, but at best it will be my own christmas gift
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Indeed this is a very friendly community! Help everywhere, great!!

    Arca Cube is not on my radar since I am very pleased with the Linhof 3D head
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    Re: Gitzo question

    A fully grown male Newfoundland dog can pull unwards to 2000lbs. Unlike a mule, it can fit in a car easier.
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    Re: Gitzo question

    RRS are great, but they have nothing tall enough for me. I use an older version of the 3542 XLS -- LOVE it as my main hiking pod. Also have the 5560 GT and it is extremely useful in mountain situations where getting a leg extended can make the difference. I also like spike feet in any outdoor setting. And while the Linhof head is fine -- I used one for years when I shot LF -- once you use a Cube it will become a mandatory accessory
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    once you use a Cube it will become a mandatory accessory
    I don't want to see it, don't want to try it...just keep away

    My Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Your Linhof is excellent!



    (Until you try a Cube!!!)



    Actually, we joke about it a lot on the workshops ---- where the combined dozen or so tripods and heads alone can be worth in excess of $25,000...
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    A fully grown male Newfoundland dog can pull unwards to 2000lbs. Unlike a mule, it can fit in a car easier.
    Do you have any complains from the Newfoundland dog union or from the animal welfare society ? ? ?

    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post

    My Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine...my Linhof is fine..
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    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post

    pophoto: customs in Sweden adds the difference from B&H...
    Okay, but what if a friend bought it for you and sent it as a gift with lower value

    Also, I know maximum height and retracted size helps, but I always thought the number of leg sections adds to instability. Also have you tried weighing down your current tripod which gives blur? Perhaps you have already tried all the above, but maybe worth mentioning!
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    Re: Gitzo question

    edit: this was meant as a respons to Jack, wasn't quick enough...



    The funny thing is that, even if you are at the very pinnacle of equipment (in whatever segment), there is always something out there that is tempting on the other side of the fence.

    As an example, I am truthfully finding my SK 72L an outstanding lens in every single regard, yet I am reading everything I can about the newish SK 60.....

    It just never ends!
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    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    Do you have any complains from the Newfoundland dog union or from the animal welfare society ? ? ?
    Believe is or not, it the Newfoundland is a draft animal and compete in draft competitions. The only complaints I get is because my gear is nicer...

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    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post


    The funny thing is that, even if you are at the very pinnacle of equipment (in whatever segment), there is always something out there that is tempting on the other side of the fence.

    As an example, I am truthfully finding my SK 72L an outstanding lens in every single regard, yet I am reading everything I can about the newish SK 60.....

    It just never ends!
    You can just stop looking...

    (I am not an addict. I can stop anytime I want to. I just don't want to...)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    A fully grown male Newfoundland dog can pull unwards to 2000lbs. Unlike a mule, it can fit in a car easier.

    Great! I had two males a few years ago, amazing dogs, and each was almost 200lbs. I had to buy a minivan just to take them places!
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    Re: Gitzo question

    jotloob:

    pophoto: ofcourse, I friend sending it 'could' make it a better deal, but customs know this and they do hit on 'gifts' often nowadays from the us.

    I can tell you that even if the 5562 have many sections, it is really really solid. I have tried it.
    Last time with my 2 series and motionblur it is true that I didn't have a weight, so that ofcourse would have helped...
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    Shashin, that is one beautiful dog
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    Re: Gitzo question

    I love my Cube I love my Cube I love my Cube...

    My Will actually states it's to be buried with me but that's only because it'll be very hard to pry it from my dead cold hands.

    The major reason MF isn't cheap is the extras associated with it. My main tripod is a Gitzo GT5540LS with a weight of 6.5 pounds (2.96 kg) with a price north of $1,000; this is where the Cube lives for a total investment of well over $3,000 and a lot of weight. As heavy as it is - it has never let me down.

    My new lightweight tripod is a Feisol that cost south of $500 where a D4 now permanently resides.

    I use the Gitzo whenever I don't have to travel too far or if a need to be rock stable due either to winds or location. I did use the Feisol quite a bit on my last trip and found it work very well.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    Don, you know how it is...I have already fiddled with the 5562 and there were lovevibes all over. Not easy to look elsewhere, but my good friend Micke (bildifokus in the Nikon section) he just bought the sturdiest Feisol and he is really pleased with it. I believe it was as you say, south of $500 and I suppose great value. I must try it out, but doubt I can get over the 5562....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    RRS are great, but they have nothing tall enough for me. I use an older version of the 3542 XLS -- LOVE it as my main hiking pod. Also have the 5560 GT and it is extremely useful in mountain situations where getting a leg extended can make the difference. I also like spike feet in any outdoor setting. And while the Linhof head is fine -- I used one for years when I shot LF -- once you use a Cube it will become a mandatory accessory
    Hi Jack,

    The L series are still not tall enough for you? I use the 24L and with the cube raises the camera a foot over my head.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    Dan, have you managed to see any of the Series 4 Systematic tripods as I believe they uses the same size flat top plate at the Series 3 but the legs off a Series 5?

    I too keep looking longingly at the new Series 5 Systematic's but keep chickening out due to their size and weight and the Series 3 never looks quite enough, especially at height. The Series 4 looks like a possible compromise?

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    Re: Gitzo question

    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post
    .....

    It just never ends!
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    Hi Jack,

    The L series are still not tall enough for you? I use the 24L and with the cube raises the camera a foot over my head.
    Ed,

    Believe it or not, I find myself extending at least one leg of my 3541XLS fully on every trip, and usually several times on any given trip to stabilize on a downhill slope. Fully extended height of my 3540XLS is same as me, 6'-6" or 80". There is nothing in RRS that goes that long, so I'd need a column -- no thanks!
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    Re: Gitzo question

    After finding the "normal" Gitzo 3 too short on uneven ground, I was deciding between the XL 3-series (same size as Jack's) and the Giant 4-series. The 4 is not much heavier, but it's a good bit more expensive. Since the XL 3 already goes up way over my head, and I don't plan to take a ladder with me when hiking, I went with that.

    I hope that's the end of my tripod purchasing, but I know better

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    Re: Gitzo question

    archivue: 5562GTS gets incredibly high! you would need a tall ladder with you...

    a ladder cost only 40 euros... and i can use my car as well ;-)

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    Re: Gitzo question

    I had the same problem: Series 2 was'nt sufficiently rigid. I bought a Gitzo Series 5 (the giant) and I love it - except it's weight. It's not a tripod I like to carry over longer distances. In the end, I got a Series 3 tripod as well.

    RRS ships internationally - it takes but a few days if they have it in stock. You can order their tripods in Europe* but last time I checked it would have been cheaper as well as faster to order directly from RRS.

    As to the Cube: I haven't seen this new Linhof head in person. But I have a cube and I'd really like to know if the Linhof 3d Micro is more rigid. The Cube is fabulous but, IMHO, in certain situations it's not rigid enough. But then it's more versatile while the Linhof is limited to plus/minus 12 degress.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Libby View Post
    The major reason MF isn't cheap is the extras associated with it.
    Don,

    Absolutely agree although you missed out a couple of expensive items.

    1) The truck/SUV/Camper to carry the stuff around the country
    2) The spousal expenses to compensate for the acceptance of spending funds on the MF gear ... think jewelry, house remodels, vacations, family vacations, trips to the inlaws, spa treatments, etc etc.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    Believe it or not, I find myself extending at least one leg of my 3541XLS fully on every trip, and usually several times on any given trip to stabilize on a downhill slope. Fully extended height of my 3540XLS is same as me, 6'-6" or 80".
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    Re: Gitzo question

    It is a very valid point of having the possibilty to extend one leg a lot on a slope or rocks or even in a situation as Graham shows. Since I haven't had such a tripod I have been avoiding that kind of placement, but having one, more flexibility at hand.

    I have narrowed down three models that would be attractive for me:

    5562lts
    folded 49.8cm
    extended 148cm
    2.94kg

    The initial favorite! Love the idea to snap off the head with quickrelease and put the whole tripod inside the bag. Great rigidity!

    5542ls
    folded 61cm
    extended 153cm
    2.8kg

    Slightly longer, slightly lighter as strongpoints over 5562.

    4552gts
    folded 73.1cm
    extended 240cm
    2.72kg

    And the new contender....height that will never restrict me in any situation. Lighter still. But, folded it is long and must be treated as a normal tripod and carried outside of any bag. Now, the most important factor - will it be sturdy enough??? Remember, I use an Alpa MAX which is a bit of a sail in wind and the whole excersise with a new set of legs is its rigidity on long exposures.

    Not easy. What do you think?
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    Re: Gitzo question

    I have 4 models of Gitzo CF tripods: Series 1, 2, 3 and 5.

    In my country i use only series 5, when i travel before i started with series 1 but i found out it is not sturdy enough, then got series 2, was a bit better but i was not sure if it can handle all conditions, and i had that bug i want something strong steady in all conditions, so i bought series 5, but it was big for travel, so ended up with series 3 and i never look back, my series 5 tripod GT5540LS is very nice for local hiking, i never feel i want to change it, i want to get new series 5 version but i may not see much difference and i am not tall, so i don't look for to buy another one, and series 3 is sturdy enough and lightweight more than series 5 and folds smaller than series 5 so it will be my ultimate travel tripod.

    If i were you i will go with series 5, and between the two i think i will prefer 5542ls over 5562lts.
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    Re: Gitzo question

    I started to use a long tripod, 3541XLS, 6.6'/198cm. Now I don't see how I could be without that height. It's not that I constantly have the camera above my head, but I'd say in 20% of my shots at least one leg uses the fourth section. It should be said though that I often search for a bit higher viewpoint, standing on rocks etc.

    I have not yet had stability issues with it with my 4 kg camera and 33 megapixels, but I would certainly not recommend all four sections extended in windy conditions. If there's no wind I think it works without issues with full extension although I have not made any formal test. The nice thing with 4 long sections is that in normal height only two or two and a half is extended so it gets very stable in that position, probably more stable than a normal length series 3. A series 5 will be more stable though of course.
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    Re: Gitzo question

    I also have the 3541XLS and agree with Jack and torger; the full legs are used more often than I expected. Actually I do carry a 2 foot step-ladder in the back of the car. Stop laughing.

    There was one day I was shooting with David Duffin where I noticed softer images probably because of the tripod. We were on an exposed ridge in the morning, it was windy and I was using the 150mm. I did not think to use any ballast so it might have helped. I wonder though; in a stiff breeze drilling and tapping into a boulder might not even help.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    There is something to be said of being short. Although not always said nicely. Lol

    I left Gitzo in the dust and moved on to RRS legs. I'm really liking my 24L. It's very sturdy and light to carry. Going to order claw feet next for it though.
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    You said it, Guy.

    And both of our giants think that they are the normal ones...

    Well, in terms of height only. Ok, maybe just Jack is normal.


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    Re: Gitzo question

    There really is no answer except a personal one. Some think nothing short of a concrete post is going to be steady enough, but I am not carrying a concrete post to the locations I go to. The answer may be a combination of tripods. I don't think there is a one size fits all solution.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    Will not disagree. I would not mind having a real giant 12 footer for example for some things.

    But I have been known to bolt cameras to ladders than run them tethered or remotely from the ground too. I do a lot of this shooting exteriors of buildings.
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    Re: Gitzo question

    I live close to the Rockies and do a fair amount of shooting in mountain valleys and ridges -- wonderful wind tunnels. Being an old non-athletic gearaholic and never travelling far from my truck, I have the flexibility of several tripod choices at hand including Gitzo 5, Gitzo 3, RRS 2-series, and a Sachtler FSB-4 video tripod (originally purchased for use with a RED Scarlet). Most shots are done with S2 or SWA and sometimes with HB 300mm on the S2 in the wind. Usually I use the RRS legs with a cube -- they're quickest to extend and place and have a good stability-to-weight ratio.

    But not surprisingly the Sachtler legs (designed for video panning) have much more torsional stability than any of the others. Dual-beam construction and centre spreader discourage twist. This is important if it's windy -- I now choose to use the Sachtler with the SWA or the S2/300mm combo in the wind. Dan's Alpa Max could also benefit...

    The Sachtler head has proven handy to frame a composition with its fast rotation and tilt. Leaning the head from side to side is a bit fussier, requiring a tilt of the bowl by loosening a lower handle while keeping a close eye on the spirit level. Overall though no less handy than a ballhead or cube. An added benefit is the pad on the bottom of each leg folds up to reveal a spike.

    Like the Gitzo 5, the Sachtler may be something to consider having in your arsenal if you aren't hiking too far. And if you ever take up video you'll be all set:

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    Re: Gitzo question

    I recently bought a Gitzo 3542XLS. It is a little heavier than I expected, but it is extremely solid for the weight and price. I rarely use the full height of the tripod, but it has come in handy a couple times. I think you have to be honest with what you need in a tripod and how you plan to use it. I would not call the 3542XLS a backpacking tripod, nor is it beefy enough for big tele lenses, but it had no trouble supporting a DF with a few lenses.

    Given the choice I would rather have one of the RRS tripods, but the Gitzo seemed a better match for my needs and budget.
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    Re: Gitzo question

    To get the most from these camera's or even a 24+ MP high pixel density small format machine like a Sony A77, a sturdy tripod is really a necessity to avoid movement. When looking for my 5 series, one sales guy actually argued with me that I didn't need it!!

    I ended up with the 5542LS which seemed a good compromise between size and weight.

    My "Cleaning the world" image in the "fun with" thread was shot on an RZ67 with a 2 series and has so much movement I may as well have used a leica or similar and saved the pain of carrying the RZ.

    I think you've got to go all in if you want to get the most from this gear. Tripod cannot be compromised (except maybe a beanbag on a sturdy rock or concrete post)
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    Re: Gitzo question

    The Gitzo's are nice but for the price/quality, I love my Sirui!

    I have the M3204
    Tall, light, 40lb capacity, retractable spikes, one leg removes as monopod, includeds short and long column (I use the short, don't care for center columns), Great warranty, fantastic case, tools included.....

    My stupid brother (200lbs) was checking it out, reached up and hung himself from it and it didn't budge one bit!

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    I'll add a vote for the Gitzo 3541xls - it's the one I went for after consulting the threads here and it is just the compromise for me - certainly sturdy enough for my H3DII-50 - I've not had any vibration issues since using this Gitzo. But, as others have commented here, you're only half way there till you get a decent head and the Arca-Swiss D4 did it for me - not quite as eye-wateringly expensive as the Cube, but so much better and lighter than the Manfrotto 405 it replaced, though it was along wait before I found one at Robert White.

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    Re: Gitzo question

    In my experience with the Alpa Max is that you need to be aware of wind on the body. It acts like a big wind sail/panel so make sure that your tripod is stable enough to cater for this. I also prefer to use spikes on my Gitzo giant - these are great but scare fellow photographers and TSA gate agents.
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    Jacks going to stab me one of these days with those freaking spikes. Lol

    I'm going to order the RRS claws
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Since quite some time I am planning to get a new and second Gitzo , but could not make up my mind which one I should go for .
    Therefore this thread just came in time for me and helped me a lot .
    Thanks guys for all the discussion .
    As I do not have an ALPA MAX or an other big and bulky camera (any more) , I decided to go for a SERIES 3 GITZO .
    I also had a look to FEISOL and INDURO tripods but the GITZO GT3542XLS
    won the race . Not least also because of the possible height of 2 meters .
    Its on the way to me and will hopefully arrive on Saturday .

    I also had a look to the RRS tripods . They are very hard to get here and are rather expensive .
    Some guys say that the RRS tripods are better than the GITZO's .
    Can you please tell why .
    Is this just a personal preference or a question of price ?
    Are RRS tripods cheaper in the U.S than GITZO ? ? ?
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    Re: Gitzo question

    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    I also had a look to the RRS tripods . They are very hard to get here and are rather expensive .
    Some guys say that the RRS tripods are better than the GITZO's .
    Can you please tell why .
    Is this just a personal preference or a question of price ?
    Are RRS tripods cheaper in the U.S than GITZO ? ? ?
    I would characterize the RRS tripods as being better built, with better materials (especially the top plate & hinges - Gitzo seems like pot metal to me) and arguably with better vibration resistance although to be honest the Gitzo is great in this respect. I haven't compared it to the latest new Gitzo head design though which does look better.

    Price? RRS is more expensive here.

    However, we're kind of comparing Audi vs BMW vs Mercedes at this level.
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    Re: Gitzo question

    +1 for the Gitzo Systematic 4 series which I bought in addition my 5 Series in order to reduce weight for a trip when we had quite a severe baggage allowance. Also worth looking at the Arca-Swiss D4 Geared (or manual) heads as lighter alternatives to the Cube (which I love to bits too).

    I've bought brackets from RRS and they have always been delivered promptly and efficiently. Shipping and customs dues are not cheap though (to the UK). I've never been able to persuade myself that the extra cost of the RRS tripods over the Gitzo's make them right for me. The Audi/BMW/Merc analogy is a good one I think though I might change my view if shipping and customs costs were not a factor.

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