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    Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Hey Everyone,
    Just picked up my p65+. I'm extremely happy with the files coming from this back. I finished all my RAW editing last night and was very happy with the images in Capture One 7. However when I exported the photos as Tiff images (300 dpi, 16bit) the images have a green tint to them and the exposure was a little higher. This didn't happen before with my P25+ or my P30+.

    Anyone know what is going on?

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    Congratulations on the new P65+. I love mine still and it really is a stunning back and the IQ is amazing.

    What software are you opening into, Photoshop?
    Have you tried in preview for a comparison?

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Sounds like a color management mismatch between C1 and PS. Make sure you have the same like Abobe 1998 or Prophoto color space set in both programs.
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Make sure your C1-7 color management is set to "selected recipe" -- goto view>proof profile>selected recipe.
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    OK,
    I have done everything you guys have said so far. My color profile is always in Adobe 1998. I had my c1 color management set to selected recipe. I then changed it to Adobe 1998 just to see and it still doesn't work. The colors are not even close. I have attached a screen shot.

    I have tried preview - even worse than photoshop
    I have tried Aperture - even worse than photoshop

    Nothing seems to resemble the colors that are in my Capture One 7.



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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Did you reprocess it after you made the changes. I would also reset that image in C1 in case it's holding some settings.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Did you reprocess it after you made the changes. I would also reset that image in C1 in case it's holding some settings.
    How do I reset the image in C1? I just did my edits and exported, haven't changed anything since.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Right click on thumbnail . Reset adjustments
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    So reset the image and redo my edits?


    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Right click on thumbnail . Reset adjustments

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Yes
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Yes
    Still doesn't work... Its literally not even close as you can see in the screen shot.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Is that the same file as all the highlights have gone from the central button?

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    I'd try starting a new session and drag a copy of that RAW file into the new capture folder without any of the settings. Apply adjustments and re-process to see if that helps.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    It is exactly the same file. I am completely lost. Of course this happens on one of our most important clients!

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    see above your comment

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by shortpballer View Post
    It is exactly the same file. I am completely lost. Of course this happens on one of our most important clients!
    Its always the case. At this point I would try a new session. Something is weird here.
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    First, exactly what all settings are inside your process recipe? Screenshot of that recipe would be helpful.

    Second, did you use local adjustments or the HDR sliders? (If so, reprocess without those and see if the preview matches the output.)

    Third, did you create a variant or compare variant, and by any chance are processing that? (If so, reprocess only the raw file itself and not a variant and compare.)
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    Just tried that still doesn't work. I tried in sessions instead of catalog this time. When I create the tiff then looked in output folder, the colors are all messed up again.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    I would now try deleting all your process recipies, quit C1 then trashing the Capture One preference files.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Let's see what's inside the "adjustments" tab...

    You did not answer if you were using either local adjustments or the HDR slider.

    Also, show me a screenshot of the top bar of your workspace when that image is selected in your browser as in the earlier screen grab above.
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Make sure you have your output set like this for Adobe 1998 in C1 like Jack mentioned earlier.
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    didnt use the HDR slider for this one

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Show us your Styles and Presets tab.

    What are your color settings in Photoshop? Are you perhaps viewing a proofing profile like CMYK?
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    Proofing profile is adobe 1998.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    PS I have had issues in the past where my color profile has switched on me so do check color settings in PS and also see what your color management policy is Off, Convert to working RGB or keep embedding file
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    it is the same color in preview, aperture and photoshop.

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    checked my color management settings in both photoshop and capture one several times. Nothing seems to work. It is just exporting files that are completely different. Completely different as far as detail as well... The tiff file is far less detailed

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    Very weird did you clear out everything from Version 6. PC or Mac
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Even worse, I just tried putting the IIQ files on my laptop Capture One 7. Settings didn't transfer over, I re-edited one. Exported a tiff file and it changed the photo again...

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    Mac. Didn't clear everything out, I just downloaded the new one, and it replaced my old one. I've always upgraded that way, didn't know I should have cleared everything out.

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Very weird did you clear out everything from Version 6. PC or Mac

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    Could it be that my monitor shows it that way when its in tiff? But capture one can better recognize that texture and color and convert the photo into something my screen can show? Maybe due to the higher megapixel count?

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Let me here, as in other C1 problem threads, urge you to open a support ticket with Phase One. Send them the RAW and the TIFF and see what they make of it. They may also point you at best-practice cleaning and re-installing instructions.

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    Agree with Matt at this point given you have settings apparently correct this sounds like some kind of corruption somewhere in the chain. I would contact Phase and see what they come up with or your dealer.
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Yep, support is the best solution.

    If PS, Aperture and Preview are all the same colour then its a C1 problem, not a colour management/system problem. I've known of issues when C1 didn't load the system/monitor profile correctly and it sounds like that may be the case here.

    You don't possibly store your monitor profile in a weird place rather than the color sync system folder?
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by shortpballer View Post
    Mac. Didn't clear everything out, I just downloaded the new one, and it replaced my old one. I've always upgraded that way, didn't know I should have cleared everything out.
    Yea going from 6 to 7 it appears some folks are getting some corruption issues and within the same version I did the same as you but given a completely new version we are seeing some issues even just on this forum alone. I recommend you use something like Clean my Mac which i used and just dump everything C1 . Now if you have a workspace and styles you can load them later but put on a external drive and you can replace them. But clear the place out than reload version 7 . Make sure you go log in at Phase and just write down your serial number just to be safe. From my POV it could only be corruption at this point given I can't think of anything else that would affect color.
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    New Update - Sent the information to Phase One.

    Also I tried processing some P25+ files again and they work perfectly. So it is something to do with the P65+.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    I've had weird stuff like this in the past when I haven't COMPLETELY cleaned out a previous version of C1. Personally I recommend Capture Integration's instructions on their website.
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    Completely cleaned out my capture one. Following all the steps from Capture Integration (even deleting all my .cop files). Still have the same problem. Could it be something with the back? Maybe the files can be properly read with capture one but cannot be properly processed into tiff files? I'm in dire need of a solution here as we told the client these photos would be done tomorrow.

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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    C1 can definitely properly process tiff files. All I can think of is for some reason color output is messed up on this file. You do have a very strong brightening curve applied combined with a hefty exposure reduction which could be part of it -- I am thinking 1) perhaps just enough of the color channels were clipped during exposure that you are recovering gray-green in the highlights instead of a color with your extreme adjustments; and/or 2) the extreme adjustments are pushing the colors outside the AdobeRGB gamut. You can test the former by creating a new variant which generates a fresh as-shot file, and then simply try processing it out with no adjustments and see if the resulting tiff matches the original exposure; you can test the latter by processing it out as a 16-bit Prophoto tiff instead of an Adobe and seeing if the colors hold.
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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Do you still have C1 v. 6 install file?
    Maybe trash v. 7 and install v. 6 again to get the job done...

    I you don't have v6 I have a 6.4.3 dmg I can send you

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    Just tried prophoto tiff, its even worse.

    Already tried calming down my curves and adjustments. doesn't work. Just tried re-processing just the original file and still colors and exposure are not correct.

    Could it be the file? I have been having a few problems with my tethering cable. Sometimes I'll get a small black band on the left hand side, showing that the information is not 100 percent going through every time. Maybe the file is slightly corrupted>

    Either way, if Capture One is showing the preview, and as long as I am in the same color space as the output, the output tiff should look exactly the same and it does not.

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    Just tried doing an older file that I took with my P25+. The results from the export are WAY better. I've always noticed a slight decrease in quality in the blacks and contrast when exporting to a tiff. I can see that here in the P25+ tiff, but atleast all the colors are the same and the image is VERY similiar to the RAW file in Capture One. I've attached a screen shot to show this:


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    Re: Capture One 7 with p65+ export has green tint? HELP

    Quote Originally Posted by shortpballer View Post
    Maybe the file is slightly corrupted>

    Either way, if Capture One is showing the preview, and as long as I am in the same color space as the output, the output tiff should look exactly the same and it does not.
    Try copying all of your adjustments from that capture and paste them onto the previous next two images in the browser and process them -- does it work normally, or do you have the same issue in the other files?

    At this point the only thing that makes sense is a corrupted capture.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Try copying all of your adjustments from that capture and paste them onto the previous next two images in the browser and process them -- does it work normally, or do you have the same issue in the other files?

    At this point the only thing that makes sense is a corrupted capture.
    Tried that...Colors are the same... Only difference I see is that the tiff is a little bit less detailed...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Try copying all of your adjustments from that capture and paste them onto the previous next two images in the browser and process them -- does it work normally, or do you have the same issue in the other files?

    At this point the only thing that makes sense is a corrupted capture.
    Tried also doing the opposite and copying adjustments from glasses to bag then exporting bag tiff again, and doesn't work at all....

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