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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Outside the Cube I used the Arca Swiss Z1 DP. I'm actually back to using it. Personally I think the best ball head in the business tech cam or not. I used it on the tech cam with much success as with my IQ 160 using the backs level system with great accuracy. It's also rated at 130 lbs which I never had a issue with the ball head not holding like a rock. The cube is the most popular head for a tech cam, not that you can't successively use anything else. It's a matter of what style you like to work with as well.
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
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    . . . . the 3/8 threaded stud on the Gitzo's platform --- I assume on the new Gitzo pods it's similar to the old ones in that it is a removable stud (or bolt depending on tripod style) and you could therefore simply get a longer one to replace the existing one?
    That was my first idea as well but it turned out to be not true .
    The center stud is a rather complicated piece of threads and I can't see how I could remove it . It would have been too good to be true .
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Wow, sounds like Gitzo really screwed the pooch design-wise on this latest tripod revision.
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Wow, sounds like Gitzo really screwed the pooch design-wise on this latest tripod revision.
    Not functioning quite so well with one solitary head hardly qualifies as a design screw up. Others seem not to think so either - red dot online: Entertainment technology and cameras
    The new improvements to the Systematics are very welcome and make it a much better tripod range IMO.

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    The linhof head looks to use the same style of knob as my linhof m679.
    I have used my linhof m679 for around ten years. The rubber on the knobs started to become sticky and degrade. It started to annoy me so much I sold the m679 as it would have been very difficult for me to send it in for service.

    Not sure this comment is really relevant as you would get the tripod head serviced after a number of years. Also they may have changed the type of rubber used.

    But next tripod head I buy I will get one with all metal knobs.

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    In regards to the panning knob interfering / almost interfering with the tripod base, my cube is the older one (it looks like they updated it sometime recently with bigger "flippers"). On mine when the pan knob is released it has a hard stop at horizontal. I.e. I cannot twist it open any more than horizontal. In addition that little lever has two small hex bolts that can be loosened to adjust its open position.

    Do the newer versions not have this design? Seems to me the "stuck lever" problem is due to the open position going beyond vertical. I would simply loosen the hex bolts and rotate the flipper clockwise a few degrees to solve the problem.

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Cube cUbe cuBe cubE CUBE !!

    I use it with IQ160 / Cambo WRS-AE and Love it !

    That said, the first thing I did when mine arrived, was replace the clamp with an RRS Lever clamp.

    I also have it on a RRS QR plate, that attaches to the Clamp on the top of the RRS TVL24 Leveling Base.

    Main reason for this, is I regularly switch from the Cube, to a Gimbal Head for using a Long Lens for wildlife (1dx / 800mm).


    About the only thing that would be nice, is if it were lighter.

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Had a reply back from the owner of the blog page I linked to above and he confirms the issues as outlined in the article post. The pan lock does indeed move up to the 12 o'clock position to lock the head but catches a lot on the Gitzo top plate. Totally possible but a total pain and not great it would seem.

    The Cube in question is recently purchased so possibly Arca has changed something with the newer models?

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Gareth,

    So basically the lip of the Cube pan release is at precisely the same distance from the centre as the lip of the top plate and so when releasing the pan it'll catch on the top plate external radius correct? That's certainly what it looks like to me.

    So, whose fault is that precisely? The Cube has been out for a long time and so you can hardly blame Arca Swiss for that now can you? If you don't add a spacer of some type (and that example in the web post is hideously high for my liking), then you need some other solution. You could mill off a fraction of a mm from the top disk or hit the edge of the Cube pan control with the dremel - both would fix the issue, albeit at the expense of some cosmetics. What I'd recommend is doing what many of us do these days and that is to fit a RRS clamp to the top of the tripod and a RRS dovetail tripod head plate to the base of the Cube. This'll lift the head so that it'll never hit the top plate, raise the head only a few mm, plus provide a totally rigid QR for the head assembly so that you can easily swap heads /tripods and more importantly remove the Cube from the tripod when traveling. I've done this with all of my large tripods and heads and so can swap between ball head, Cube, Gitzo giant legs, RRS tripod or my steel systematic tripod at home. You end up with the very best of all worlds, no tripod binding, super rigid attachment to the tripod and portability as well.

    Just sayin' ... The sky isn't falling due to Gitzo's design change and head/tripod plate interference.
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Just sayin' ... The sky isn't falling due to Gitzo's design change and head/tripod plate interference.
    Hi Graham

    I'm not suggesting the sky is falling in, just that what seems to be (and always was) a perfect tripod/head is not quite so straight forward combination any longer with the new Gitzo Series 5 tripods.

    I'm also not looking to "blame" anyone but it should be noted for anyone searching for info on this seemingly idea combo that all is not rosey. I'm considering a cube but if after spending over £2K on a tripod and head, out of the blue I found an issue rather than doing is somersaults of joy, I'd be sorely disappointed.

    Yes thankfully, there are solutions to fix this but importantly now it seems you need to buy extra bits to make it work as expected.
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Gareth

    Today I have ordered two washers to be cut with a laser beam .
    That washer is 3mm thick and will lift the CUBE a little bit to give more clearence . It can be used on Series 3 , 4 or 5 GITZO SYSTEMATIC's .
    I will give feedback when I have the washers .
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    I have a Manfrotto 400 geared head for my H4D-50. It's very solid and stable, although the horizontal plane can only be tilted by about 12 degrees or so. I assume the Cube is a lot better, but it's a lot more expensive.

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    I love this.
    61 replies expressing opinions about tripod heads! Only on GetDPI!
    After all this, I'm still deciding. It's down to if I only need a leveling head (e.g. Linhof) or something a bit more versatile like the Cube or D4. In two years I can think of three times I've tilted camera more than 12 degrees downwards but logic tells me that as soon as I can do that I'll need it!

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    I love this.
    61 replies expressing opinions about tripod heads! Only on GetDPI!
    Now, now, let's be honest here. It's 63 replies about EXPENSIVE tripod heads. That's GetDPI!
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Now, now, let's be honest here. It's 63 replies about EXPENSIVE tripod heads. That's GetDPI!

    And . . .
    we have not been talking about the exclusive GITZO SYSTEMATIC OCEAN series tripods yet . Looking forward to see what comes up here in GetDpi .
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    And . . .
    we have not been talking about the exclusive GITZO SYSTEMATIC OCEAN series tripods yet . Looking forward to see what comes up here in GetDpi .
    I nearly ordered one of those and I'm not ashamed to say it was on looks alone. I never go near water with my tripod but they look soooooo good.

    Apart from the eye popping price, they just didn't make one high enough for my needs and I ended up with the Series 5 Giant.

    Now make that 66 replies.

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    The same thoughts here . If there would be an OCEAN type for my desired height I would have bought it . Not even thinking about the additional €uros .
    It just is an awesome design . . . .#67
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    #68!
    The ocean series does look fantastic... (reaches for credit card...)

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Gitzo Ocean? Pah!!

    The true enthusiast would get the Gitzo Titanium Traveler 90th Anniversary edition.
    Remember: adventure before dementia!

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    Ah, a man with distinguished taste, I see!

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Gitzo Ocean? Pah!!

    The true enthusiast would get the Gitzo Titanium Traveler 90th Anniversary edition.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    Ah, a man with distinguished taste, I see!
    And a fat wallet!

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Gitzo Ocean? Pah!!

    The true enthusiast would get the Gitzo Titanium Traveler 90th Anniversary edition.
    Graham
    That would be the correct tripod for the HASSELBLAD LUNAR snobs .
    Superfluous . About as useful as a hole in the head .
    Sorry , a bit out of topic .
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    hate to see fellow cube users in a bind, so if anyone wants a 3mm thick spacer, let me know, and I'll make and sell them very cheaply. will have a 3/8" clearrance hole and same OD as the cube base

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Now, now, let's be honest here. It's 63 replies about EXPENSIVE tripod heads. That's GetDPI!
    I'm feeling cheap here with a Z1. LOL
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    They really need to make a mini cube about 30 percent smaller. Ill take the first one made. Oh wait by that time ill be retired. LOL

    So where the hell is the new Z2. I'm starting to get pissed off here.

    You can tell I have a lot of patience.
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    There's another new 3 way head by Linhof: "Linhof 3D Levelling Head II".
    Looks good!

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    looks like the Linhof base pan lock screw (round, not a lever) is going to be tough to get a grip on when mounted on a larger diameter tripod headplate

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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    John

    Thats like jumping out of a frying pan into the fire .
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    Re: The tech cam tripod head question...

    Quote Originally Posted by thomas View Post
    There's another new 3 way head by Linhof: "Linhof 3D Levelling Head II".
    Looks good!

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    but doesn't look gear driven, like their other leveling head.

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