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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Most of the images in my GetDPI gallery are from the 645D.











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    Re: Pentax 645D

    All of the pictures I have posted in the "Fun with MF Images" thread were shot on my 645D. Rather than re-post here, I'll simply point you in that direction - or you can see many more of them at my Flickr page (Flickr: eduardotunnel4's Photostream - I suggest using the Sets links on the right of the page)
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    Re: Pentax 645D

    thanks, very helpful!

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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Quote Originally Posted by mmbma View Post
    Can Pentax 645D users please post some photos? let's start a thread here. I'd love to see some shots before I consider the system. THank you!

    I've been slowly getting some of my captures in a more finished form. Just about everything I do with the 645D is on a tripod. I did try a shoot for a friend that needed to be hand held and I was somewhat lost with my handling techniques. More of a lack of skill with that type of shooting than anything. That said, for the landscapes that I do, I think the 645D is a great camera. I've got some of my shots at 500px / Richard Longseth / Photos if you want to take a look. Probably hard to judge since the photos are low res jpg's. So my 2 cents worth, for landscapes, you can't go wrong.

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    I have a lot of 645D images on my blog and if you look at some of my posts on this site you can find them as well. I don't want to re post twice.

    I really enjoy the camera and think it's one of the best currently shipping Pentax products. To bad their marketing guys don't seem to know what they are doing.

    Some Pentax 645D images here

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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Can't believe I started this thread in February...and I still don't own a 645D.

    That may soon change. With the latest drop in price (Can you believe it? $7k for a NEW 645D!?!), the pressure is building. Is it time to put up or shut up? I think so.

    I've finally come to the conclusion that if I'm going to get a 645D, I will, reluctantly, have to part with some of my other gear to justify (to my wife, and myself) the purchase of another expensive camera. I know...for some of you, $7k is not "expensive". I wish I was in your shoes.

    My wife has agreed on these terms...if I sell or trade-in gear worth half the price of a new 645D, then I have her "seal of approval" (that makes EVERYTHING so much easier).

    With that in mind, on the possible chopping block...all (or almost all) of my m43rds gear (specifically, the GH2 & OMD and most of the lenses...Pana 12-35, 100-300, Pana-Leica 25 & 45 macro etc).

    Also, dare I say it, my Nikon D800e. Crazy? Perhaps. Have I used it? Basically...no. Less than 100 clicks on my D800e. My favorite Nikon is still the D700...by a very wide margin.

    Why the 645D? I'm really anxious to use the extensive collection of P67 and P645 lenses I've accumulated over 25+ years on it.

    Promised myself (and my wife): I'll make a decision, one way or the other, this week.

    So there you have it: It's now time for me to put up or shut up.

    Gary

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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Hmmm. Sounds like you’ve already made your decision. Relax, you’ll really like the 645D.

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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Parting with most of my m43rds kit will be surprisingly easy.

    Parting with the D800e...that is tougher than I thought it would be.

    Gary

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    Gary, having used both the 645D and the D800E, I think you will probably be quite content with shifting from the latter to the former. But it depends on your style. The 645D definitely provides better quality results when you have time to set up, if you don't want 'rapid fire' and if you are not primarily doing very high ISO stuff (the 645D is surprisingly good at high ISOs, but not as good as the D800E). I don't know the full range of your work exactly, but from what I have seen of it, you appear to do landscape work that can be set up with care and shot from a tripod. For this, as long as you have nice glass (happy to share views on that), you will not regret getting the 645D.
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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Thanks for your thoughts on this Ed..I really appreciate them. I think my shooting style and the things I take photos of, more often than not, are very similar to your own (although my images aren't as interesting).

    I rarely shoot at more than ISO 200. i also don't shoot "rapid fire" very often (mostly for the Iditarod and Fur Rondy dog sled races). For those, I have the D700, D2x or various Canon DSLRs.

    Re the D800e...I need to remember that life is all about choices, even when I hate to make them. In this case, if I want the 645D, I will have to make some tough choices. If not the D800e, it will be several Canons, Hasselblads or Leicas. Something will have to go, besides just the micro 4/3rds kit...and the D800e would fill a big part of the hole.

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    Gary if it was me the 645 as your primary knock me over file and hold on to you M stuff for travel and such and dump everything else. You have no pressure to produce anything for anyone but yourself. Trust me you don't know how freeing that is. I don't have Guy choices but client ones. Shoot what turns your jets on.

    My choices if I truly had them a tech cam with a back and a Leica M kit. My second choice would be a S system. See how far down my list is on what I shoot and what I prefer. For non client work shoot what gives you the desire to go out the door with and what is comfortable and freeing in your hand.

    Seriously this is the best advice I can give as a working Pro to the hobbyist. Enjoy this don't feel stuck in any system. They all produce images, it comes from you not the the metal and glass.
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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Thanks Guy. Very glad I don't have the pressure to produce that a working pro faces every day...I would be a miserable failure as a photographer, if that were the case. My life is relatively easy in comparison...I count the bbls of oil produced from Prudhoe Bay, then go home and enjoy making prints. Even if no one else ever sees them, I'm a happy man. The truth is, whether I'm shooting these pics with a 645D, a D800e or even my wonderful 8 megapixel Canon 1D Mark II....I'm a very lucky guy.

    I gotta keep that in mind.

    But I'm also thinking about all my Pentax 67 and 645 lenses which could be put to good use on a 645D.

    Gary

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    That's one nice thing about the Pentax they have a ton older lenss to play with. But you will be challenged like others have said to find good working copies. But that's the fun part. LOL

    Okay warning that last comment was from a lens whore. LOL
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    Re: Pentax 645D

    I'll just have to go with the lenses I already own. I don't have the patience or luxury of buying multiple copies and picking the best ones in the bunch.

    That being said...my eyes aren't as discerning as some other folks here, so it's easier for me to find "good copies".

    Gary

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    Gary, it's hard not to repeat what many have expressed to you in recent posts. Somewhat knowing the subject matter you shoot, the 645D I believe will be ideal and provide you with great pleasure both in it's use and the resulting quality of it's output. Yes, some of your older glass will be very good while others might fall short of your expectation regarding their performance on the 645D...but you'll quickly sort through it all and sort of come up with your 645D "kit" of body and lenses.

    Like Guy, what I need to shoot with for clients most times is quite different what I would pick for my own pleasure. Setting aside the similar resolution of the D800e and 645D, when I think of both in their actually use and also the look of the image (with both bodies and associated lenses), I often feel at times, they are as different as can be. I think of the D800/e as being a very efficient machine to get things done in a very competent and efficient way, with excellent output when needed, as long as high performing optics is used. Often times the files are simply razor sharp and detail for sensor size is quite amazing

    I view the 645D and it's system of lenses and eventual output as being more artistic in nature. It has a roundness and pleasant nature to it's images. Colors are pronounced without being overbearing and rarely if ever are the resulting files clinical in nature. Big bold subjects like planes, trains etc. photograph exceptionally well with the 645D as does landscapes. There's plenty of detail in the files, but there is also that something else, that makes them feel more organic, as opposed to some of the higher end high MP 35mm DSLR's.

    As you well know from being a medium format shooter, the 645D will require the same sort of careful set-up as your film based MF, maybe more so, but it's a fun camera to work with. The lens selection and performance is the key with the 6545D body, in my opinion....maybe more so than many other systems I've used.

    You got great advice from Ed, Guy, Tim and many others here and I echo their sediments.

    Lastly I'll leave you with a thought. I too often have to let gear go in order to obtain some other much needed lens or body. I find that hard but when it's not for photo work but myself, hold onto those things which provide the most joy when shooting not the ones that may be high performance but don't provide the "rush" you feel when in use. The ones that don't provide the same high level of joy are the ones that won't be missed after a time.

    If you go for the 645D...then look forward to a lot of fun!

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    Gary, Guy, Ed, Tom and others have provided some great advice. I have little dount knowing some of the things you shoot, how much you're going to enjoy shooting with the 645D. Although the D800/e and 645D have similar sized output, the look of their images couldn't be more different in my opinion, especially with many of the lenses available for both.

    The D800/e is sharp, efficient and with the best quality lenses provides a file rich in detail and good color. It gets the job done and done well.

    The 645D and it's associated output feels more organic in nature....more film like. It's images often time (probably due to the nature of some of the lenses) has a roundness and gentleness, that although provide a high level of detail, is never clinical in nature. It's RAW's at first glance are quite soft and need both a fairly substantial amount of sharpening...both for a qualitative and quantitative viewpoint. Color often times is bold and I feel it's CCD Sensor has a lot to do with it's attractive output.

    I also believe after a brief time in trying out all your large array of MF lenses, you'll quickly recognize which ones are suitable for use on the 645D and which aren't. That's the key in my opinion in getting the best output and most joy from the 645D.

    I completely agree with Guy. What I select for use with clients is a far cry from that which I choose for my own shooting. The 645D is definitely a camera that's a joy and pleasure to use.

    As for which items to sell...I'd recommend keep those which you derive the most pleasure in using, regardless of format or level of performance and sell that which although efficient, doesn't quite give the same thrill. I too often find I have to sell items I don't want to give up...but it's always easier when there is less of an emotional attachment. I think you're going to really enjoy the 645D and if you do go for it...I think all of us here at Getdpi are in for a treat in seeing the images you create with it.

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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Well....I did it. Ordered the 645D from my local shop this afternoon.

    I am getting rid of nearly all of my m43rds kit and and the D800e...in the end, it wasn't hard to do. For whatever crazy reason, I just never "bonded" with the D800e (unlike my D700, which I love). I'm not sure why, but it is what it is.

    I think, as many of you have said, the 645D will be a good fit for me. I really do.

    Many of you have shared thoughts, observations, encouragement and 645D images for which I am very grateful. Dave, Ed, Shashin, Guy and others I will have forgotten to mention...your words have really helped me get to this point. I feel sure now that I've made the right decision.

    The community here has been terrific...a wealth of information and very supportive. For a guy like me, who is just an amateur with an expensive taste for good gear, it's been a great place to air my thoughts and get some very helpful feedback.

    My thanks again to each of you!

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    Re: Pentax 645D

    I don't think you will regret this. I felt very guilty when I bought the camera in December 2010, but within two days I knew It wasn't going back. The D700 and 645D seem a great combination; although I might be inclined to follow Guy's advice and keep the m4/3. Interesting that you didn't like the D800. I must admit I've considered a D800 and a Zeiss wide as an alternative to the Pentax 25mm, but will likely get neither and just stitch the lovely 35mm when necessary. I'm not sure which Pentax lenses you have, but I would recommend that you get the 645 35mm A and 120mm (A or FA) macro as soon as possible (welcome to Level 1 of Dante's Inferno).

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    Welcome. I am glad we can help. You will love the camera.

    Now, about that 645DII...
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    Great news Gary. I really believe it will fit you like a glove. Also your welcome I know I express my feelings around here pretty openly and its always with good intent. I actually envy all the hobbyists here that enjoy photography and want to enjoy there art. As A Pro I love what I am but not always love what I do with a lot less freedom of choice. Frankly its truly why I got involved to start this place. It truly is to give back that I enjoy more than being the guy. My hobby is golf and I love to play so I have my outlet. You guys are very important to me as your my joy to try and help you all whatever way I can be it right , wrong or just get you thinking. I'm thrilled you listened to us all and made a choice to give it a try. I held one for about a half hour and it was very nice. I still love MF shooting and brand names mean **** to me , its the format I like. Okay we want images.

    Also thanks to all our members that chipped in, you guys rock the house.
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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    I don't think you will regret this. I felt very guilty when I bought the camera in December 2010, but within two days I knew It wasn't going back. The D700 and 645D seem a great combination; although I might be inclined to follow Guy's advice and keep the m4/3. Interesting that you didn't like the D800. I must admit I've considered a D800 and a Zeiss wide as an alternative to the Pentax 25mm, but will likely get neither and just stitch the lovely 35mm when necessary. I'm not sure which Pentax lenses you have, but I would recommend that you get the 645 35mm A and 120mm (A or FA) macro as soon as possible (welcome to Level 1 of Dante's Inferno).

    Tom
    Thanks Tom...I hope I will enjoy the 645D, just as you have!

    I don't want to say anything which might disparge the D800...after all, I took less than 200 shots with mine. I'm sure it's an excellent camera...the images just weren't clicking with me.

    I'm fortunate to have a pretty good collection of P67 and P645 lenses already, including the P645 35mm A and the 120 A macro. While I haven't actually used the 35mm A lens on my 645NII, that 120 macro is one of my favorites. I lent the 35mm A lens to a friend of mine who has a 645D...he loved it and subsequently bought a 35mm A lens for himself.

    I did keep one m43rds camera...my original G1. For whatever reason, that was still my favorite. I kept the G1 and the 14-42mm (quite good actually) and 20/1.7 lenses.

    I may detect a trend in my "favorite" digital cameras....they tend to have lower pixel densities than the latest and greatest DSLR cameras on the market. My favorite Nikons are the D700 and D2x, my favorite Canons are the 5D classic, 1D Mark II and 40D.

    My favorite Hasselblad is the CFV-16II.

    Maybe what Dave said ties this all together...perhaps the images are indeed more "organic", less clinically perfect. Whatever it is, I think (and hope) the 645D will fit in here too and become another new favorite for me.

    Or maybe I'm just a guy who enjoys using stuff which isn't "cutting edge"....I still get a huge kick when driving my 2004, RWD, 185hp, normally aspirated (non-turbo), manual transmission 325Ci.

    Gary

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    Gary - you certainly won't regret it (the potentially annoying arrival of a 645Dii just after you buy a 645D notwithstanding). I too felt guilty buying the 645D in 2010, but just knew I had done the right thing as soon as I started using it.

    Your 35mm A and 120mm A lenses shine with this camera. What other glass do you have?

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    Congratulations! And welcome to a world of wonderfulness :-)

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    Wait Gary...send the 645D back! If I had known you had that lovely BMW...I would have sacrificed my 645D for a good cause...namely trading it to you for your car...LOL! It's lovely.

    Serious Gary, I like others feel you're really going to enjoy your new 645D and you already have some very lovely lenses to use with it like the 35mm A and the 120 macro. They will shine on the 645D ans well will others.

    The D800/e is a supurb machine but as technically proficient and capable as it is, the resulting images from it and the 645D are just different and often times to a great extent in my opinion. Not a question of which is better...just different. Some has to do with the lenses but other reasons I believe the camera itself. Maybe it's the sensor, maybe the electronics and firmware on how it handles processing, it's ahrd to say. Its simply a question of what one plans to do with a given camera and which images provide the look that they are seeking.

    Can't wait to hear both your impressions of the camera as well as your lovely images. Nice going Gary...enjoy!

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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    Wait Gary...send the 645D back! If I had known you had that lovely BMW...I would have sacrificed my 645D for a good cause...namely trading it to you for your car...LOL! It's lovely.
    LOL indeed! :-) Thanks Dave. This car was an early 60th birthday present to myself (last October). Like a lot of guys, ever since I was a teenager (with no money) I've wanted a "sports car". In my case, the car I dreamed of owning was a BMW coupe...a modern version of the 2002 tii that I lusted after when I was 16.

    This car fit the bill perfectly (it has the sports package, which includes the sport suspension, wheels, seats etc). It's not easy to find a clean used BMW coupe with RWD and a manual transmission in Alaska....I looked for quite awhile. Bought it in mid-October, drove it for 2 weeks before the first snowfall. It's been in storage all winter and I just got her back on the road May 1st...just in time for a late spring snowfall. But all is well now, spring is here and I love driving this car.

    As Jeremy Clarkson (of Top Gear) once said, while thrashing a BMW 1M around the track: "What have we got here? A straight six up front, a manual gearbox in the middle and the drive goes to the back. That's page one, chapter one from the petro-sexual handbook." Of course, this 325Ci is no M car, but it suits me just fine.

    By the way, this photo was taken with the D700. A letter size print of this image, on Epson Exhibition Fiber, is on the wall of my cube at the office.

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    Well....I did it. Ordered the 645D from my local shop this afternoon.

    I am getting rid of nearly all of my m43rds kit and and the D800e...in the end, it wasn't hard to do. For whatever crazy reason, I just never "bonded" with the D800e (unlike my D700, which I love). I'm not sure why, but it is what it is.

    I think, as many of you have said, the 645D will be a good fit for me. I really do.

    Many of you have shared thoughts, observations, encouragement and 645D images for which I am very grateful. Dave, Ed, Shashin, Guy and others I will have forgotten to mention...your words have really helped me get to this point. I feel sure now that I've made the right decision.

    The community here has been terrific...a wealth of information and very supportive. For a guy like me, who is just an amateur with an expensive taste for good gear, it's been a great place to air my thoughts and get some very helpful feedback.

    My thanks again to each of you!

    Gary

    Gary:
    I, too, am an amateur. I also have a great appreciation of fine equipment. In 1959, when we were first married (married 54 years), my understanding wife (still is) helped me own a Pentax 35 mm SLR with numerous lenses, a Leica M2 with several lenses, and a Hasselblad 500 C with 80mm & 150mm lenses. I was also a darkroom fanatic, and had Omega, Besseler, and Leica enlargers. In my film days, I also used Pentax 67 and 645 systems. I now use, among other systems, a 645D. It is the finest, most straight forward digital camera I have ever owned. Mirror lock up? No problem; just flip a lever. HDR bracketing; no problem. The list goes on. I agree, my 35mmA, and 120A macro are outstanding. I may have lucked out, but the new old stock 45-80 FA at 45mm is a really stellar lens. I have made, and sold, 24"x32" prints from the 645D that are just amazing with the sharpness and "clarity" they exhibit. I also use a D800e, with Zeiss lenses. Nice, but no comparison in my eyes.
    I totally agree with you: this forum is run by real gentleman........I have received SO much help, encouragement and inspiration here.
    We retired to the NJ shore, and only last week were able to return home after 6 months and 9 days of being homeless. While living in a friend's home, I photographed the lovely skies over the beach after Sandy, and will print them soon ( we are away visiting family for two weeks). My web site has some recent 645D stuff. You are going to love this fine piece of equipment. I was an early USA owner; I imported mine from Japan, through Hong Kong, (international warranty....keep your fingers crossed I have no problems).
    Very best regards and good luck.
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    Re: Pentax 645D

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed HUrst View Post
    Congratulations! And welcome to a world of wonderfulness :-)
    Thanks Ed! Your 645D images were some of the earliest I had seen. You sent me a full res image of a steam locomotive and train to print. Looking at that print, I was hooked. It just took me a bit longer than expected to get here.

    As you might recall, I have a pretty extensive collection of P67 lenses, all the final versions. The only P67 lens I don't have and still hope to find is the rare 75mm 2.8 beauty. I did finally get a 35mm fisheye and the 100mm macro. So I now have fourteen P67 lenses: 35 fisheye, 45, 55, 75, 75 shift, 90, 90LS, 100 macro, 105, 135 macro, 165, 165LS, 200 and the 300 EDIF. Of course, I also have the Pentax 67=>645 lens adapter.

    On the P645 side, when the 645D was first released I decided to start building a P645 kit, with the long term plan to get the 645D. I started off with a LN- condition 645NII and now have seven P645 lenses. All are the manual focus "A" versions, with one exception. So I have the 35, 75, 120 macro, 150, 200, 45-80 FA and 80-160.

    If these aren't enough, I have an adapter to mount my Hasselblad Zeiss lenses on the P645. This should keep me busy, just playing with (err..I meant "testing") different lenses on the 645D for quite awhile, I think.

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    My web site has some recent 645D stuff. You are going to love this fine piece of equipment.
    Very best regards and good luck.
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    So glad to hear that you are back home again Dave. Are you back on Long Beach Island?

    I've visited your website many times and I love your seascapes, boats, harbors etc. I don't expect I'll produce anything that good, but I'll do my best to try.

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    Yes, Gary, we are back in our home on LBI, albeit, we are traveling to the mid west to see grandkids graduate from high school, and college. Thanks for your concern and kind words. We will return in about a week, and I intend to make some big prints from new images. My 3800 and 7890 were idle for over 6 months, and subjected to freezing temperatures ( no electricity). I posted on a different forum here my adventures with that scenario.
    Can't wait to see some 645D images.
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    Dave, so glad your ordeal is nearing an end although I realize there will long be the after effects of what you had to go through and your loses. We're all so glad to hear of your return to the world of engaging what you love to do and look forward to seeing more of your lovely images of LBI and elsewhere.

    Gary, great story regarding you car...I love it. just one thing, something is terribly wrong. I have a SUV to plow through those ice and snowstorms but barely any snow here. You have the sportscar for those lovely year round fair weather days. We need to swap and fast! springtime is here and it hit 85 today....just perfect for me to be seen in that BMW of yours.

    Anyhow, with all those P67 and P645 lenses, your car can't hold all that gear like my SUV...so consider that I'm doing you a favor to take it off your hands...LOL!

    Gary,I was a long time P67 shooter and wish I didn't sell all my 67 lenses prior to the 645D. Regarding your manual focus P645 lenses, some are the same optical formular as their FA AF counterparts and some aren't. In any case it will be fun to try them all out.

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    Gary,

    Thanks for the kind words about the pix. I have many of the lenses you refer to. From my experience, I would put the 67 lenses into three categories - brilliant, good and not-so-sure. The 55mm f4 and 300mm EDIF are definitely in the brilliant category. The 75 f4, 90, 105, 135 macro and 165 are, in my view, in the good category (btw, the 105, being f2.4, allows you to do some nice narrow depth of field shots). In the not-so-sure camp I would put the 45, the fisheye (though I don't own this lens myself), the 90mm l/s and the 200m (which seems capable of producing pretty good stuff some of the time). Can't comment on the shift lens or the 100 macro.

    Re. the 645 glass you own, you will be delighted with the 35 and 120. The 45-85 FA is also superb up to about 65, then only good beyond that. The other 645 glass you mention I have not used, but I hear mixed things about them.

    By the way, did you order the 645D with the new 55mm f2.8 lens? I have it, and find it good but not stellar in every way. In fact, the 67 55mm f4 lens seems to me to be as good - though with different strengths.

    You are gonna have fun dude :-)
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    Oh, and I can confirm that the 6x7 75mm f2.8AL is worth getting if you can find it. Whether it is sufficiently good to worry about - compared to the 6x7 75mm f4, the 645 75mm f2.8 and 645 45-85FA lenses you already own - is debatable. I suspect you have the length well covered already. As it happens, I already owned that 6x7 f2.8 version, so I didn't need to go seeking it out. If I didn't own it, but did own what you have, I think I would be content.

    Still, I know what it's like to have a bee in my bonnet for something I don't own! At present, it's the 25mm DA f4 lens that I am lusting after ;-)
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    Quote Originally Posted by D&A View Post
    Gary, great story regarding you car...I love it. just one thing, something is terribly wrong. I have a SUV to plow through those ice and snowstorms but barely any snow here. You have the sportscar for those lovely year round fair weather days. We need to swap and fast! springtime is here and it hit 85 today....just perfect for me to be seen in that BMW of yours.

    Anyhow, with all those P67 and P645 lenses, your car can't hold all that gear like my SUV...so consider that I'm doing you a favor to take it off your hands...LOL!

    Dave (D&A)
    LOL! I wish we had a few 85 degree days up here. The last couple of "summers", we've only broke the 70 degree mark a few times. Our summers have been mostly cool and cloudy.

    As much as I love driving the Bimmer, with the rear wheel drive, it's definitely not a good car for winter weather, which is why it was in storage from November 1st to May 1st.

    My Honda CRV does the job for the rest of the year and can haul quite a lot of gear. In the CRV, I'll travel over gravel roads where I wouldn't take the 325Ci (across the Denali "highway" and over the Top of the World "highway" to Dawson City, Yukon Territory, for example). I'm looking forward to packing the 645D along on these trips in the future. There are a few paved roads with easy access to photogenic spots, especially along Turnagain Arm and in the mountains. I'll put a couple of camera bags in the trunk of the Bimmer and enjoy the drive and the views. The challenge for me is to stop driving (and grinning) long enough to set up a tripod and take a few photos along the way. Here's the view on one of my favorite Alaskan roads from a drive in the Bimmer last October, about a week before I put it in storage. The temp was 28F-30F on this day...but the roads were dry.

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    Oh, and I can confirm that the 6x7 75mm f2.8AL is worth getting if you can find it.
    Definitely one of the hardest lenses to find! When I do, I'll be jumping on it, even though I don't need it.

    Still, I know what it's like to have a bee in my bonnet for something I don't own! At present, it's the 25mm DA f4 lens that I am lusting after ;-)
    My friend here in Alaska with the 645D bought the 25mm lens and it's a very impressive lens! It's bigger and heavier than I had expected. He's very happy with it. I don't shoot much ultra wide angle end, so that let's me off the hook for another big expense...thankfully!

    Re your other question...no, I didn't really think to order the 645D with the 55mm lens, since I've already got quite a few lenses in that focal length range and frankly, I just prefer using manual focus lenses.

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    Well, with what you have, I think you will be happy with your decision about the 55mm.

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    Gary:

    I wondered if you used your BMW to commute on the Glenn Highway during winter. I would have praised your driving skills if you did.
    You, Ed and I could open a Pentax MF museum. I have twenty-something lenses and converters including some unusal ones like the 75mm f2.8 and the 500mm
    f5.6 for the 67.
    So (I've been looking for a chance to use this):



    Dave (NJ) glad your back in your home; must have felt like a long time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    As much as I love driving the Bimmer, with the rear wheel drive, it's definitely not a good car for winter weather, which is why it was in storage from November 1st to May 1st.
    You just learn to drive in reverse in the winter. Front wheel drive with rear wheel steering! Just like a folk lift truck without the forks.

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    Gary:

    I wondered if you used your BMW to commute on the Glenn Highway during winter. I would have praised your driving skills if you did.
    That's a scary thought! It can be bad enough in my CRV with studded tires on all 4 wheels. I wouldn't survive for 15 minutes in the Bimmer.

    You, Ed and I could open a Pentax MF museum. I have twenty-something lenses and converters including some unusal ones like the 75mm f2.8 and the 500mm
    f5.6 for the 67.
    So (I've been looking for a chance to use this):



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    Yes, we need more pics here! Pics of the gear (like your 500mm lens!) and taken with the gear.

    Just got word that my 645D has shipped and will be here Friday afternoon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    My friend here in Alaska with the 645D bought the 25mm lens and it's a very impressive lens! It's bigger and heavier than I had expected. He's very happy with it. I don't shoot much ultra wide angle end, so that let's me off the hook for another big expense...thankfully!

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    If I could afford the Pentax 25mm, I would buy a 645D (and a 645N) as a consequence. It's one of my MF dilemmas: I need an ultra-wide lens for industrial photography, but they all cost at least as much as a D800 plus the Nikkor 14-24mm, which may result in me buying the D800 before I go for digital MF.

    Has your friend tried the 25mm on film?

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    One little accessory I have found really good for the 645D is the 645 Refconverter (90 degree angle finder). I also upgraded my focusing screen to the gridded screen. I bought the IR remote for the 645D and it is good, but the battery can die. (I also bought a cheap $6 electronic cable release for when the IR remote does die--I just had to trim the outside of the plug to make it fit.) And lastly if you like making long exposures with dense ND filters, you will need to figure out a cap for the viewfinder to stop the ambient light from getting into the camera.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    If I could afford the Pentax 25mm, I would buy a 645D (and a 645N) as a consequence. It's one of my MF dilemmas: I need an ultra-wide lens for industrial photography, but they all cost at least as much as a D800 plus the Nikkor 14-24mm, which may result in me buying the D800 before I go for digital MF.

    Has your friend tried the 25mm on film?
    Jorgen:

    I would love to have a 25mm too. At 5k, it's out-of-the-question, but I have noticed that amazon.jp has it at 3500 USD.

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    Yes, we need more pics here! Pics of the gear (like your 500mm lens!) and taken with the gear.


    Don't have an existing picture of the 67 500mm, but I do have this:

    A support device for the 645 600mm. It works very well at removing any shake caused by the shutter; but even this can be helped by a Manfrotto long lens support at really slow shutter speed

    NB: taken with a K-5, which conveniently uses the same batteries as the 645D.



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    You just learn to drive in reverse in the winter. Front wheel drive with rear wheel steering! Just like a folk lift truck without the forks.
    That would explain some of the drivers I've encountered in Maine

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    Jorgen:

    I would love to have a 25mm too. At 5k, it's out-of-the-question, but I have noticed that amazon.jp has it at 3500 USD.
    Don't tempt me. I can soon start to store cameras in the fridge, since it's empty anyway. The dry cabinet on the other hand...
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    Don't have an existing picture of the 67 500mm, but I do have this:
    A support device for the 645 600mm. It works very well at removing any shake caused by the shutter; but even this can be helped by a Manfrotto long lens support at really slow shutter speed
    That is a very impressive looking lens Tom! I don't have any of the Pentax 67/645 "big guns" and I know they are very hard to find.

    When my 645D arrives, I'll post an image of my Hasselblad/Zeiss 500mm mounted on the 645D. Sort of an old tech meets new tech story.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    Don't have an existing picture of the 67 500mm, but I do have this:

    A support device for the 645 600mm. It works very well at removing any shake caused by the shutter; but even this can be helped by a Manfrotto long lens support at really slow shutter speed

    NB: taken with a K-5, which conveniently uses the same batteries as the 645D.



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    Has your friend tried the 25mm on film?
    Film? Does anyone still use that stuff? ;-)

    Definitely not. I don't think I have ever seen him shoot with film.

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    Re. the 25mm, the DFA version will work on film (don't now how well, but I suspect very!) but the more recent DA version will not.

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    I keep lusting after those loooong lenses, but every time I get close to buying one, I realise I would hardly use it. The 300mm EDIF I own doesn't get used much. So, thus far, I have resisted the urge!

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    Holy crap.
    It's not quite as large as it appears Steve; the first two sections of the lens from the front (left) are a built in lens shade . They slide over the third section and screw together. You can see the sliver colored threads. A very ingenious and effective design.
    I'm glad to seee that Capture Integration now handles the 645D; any chance C 1 pro will add the 645D?

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed HUrst View Post
    I keep lusting after those loooong lenses, but every time I get close to buying one, I realise I would hardly use it. The 300mm EDIF I own doesn't get used much. So, thus far, I have resisted the urge!
    Ed, I really enjoy the compression effects of long lenses and wildlife shots. Here are a couple examples I've posted before with this lens. The first is with the 600 + 1.4x setup pictured above. Inspired by Mark Rothko paintings and Pete Turner's red giraffe photo. Arguably I could get this image with a point and shoot, since there is no detail, but I can print this at 30x40 with no banding in the sky (I realize I'm preaching to the choir here)


    Mark Rothko appears in Lake Erie by tsjanik47, on Flickr

    Another at ISO 1600, hand held, supported by a car door.
    Oldsquaw ducks, male and female. Arguably I would have been better off with a 35mm DSLR and that's likely correct

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