I do.In fact who needs more than 22?
Close the thread, because the question has been answered.
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I do.In fact who needs more than 22?
Sorry but the only Kodak. Back that can do at least a good ISO 400 was the P30. The Dalsa in the P40,65and 160 I could get a clean full res. 400. I used that often when needed. Nikon Was not in my wheelhouse when I had Phase gear.Oh com'on Guy... don't tell me that you would prefer high Iso sooting with MF than your D800E... even if it is on the (+) mode... why would somebody consider buying an MFDB for its high Iso? OTOH, I didn't find DR extension to be more with P65+... (I haven't tried IQ180), It is "different" (I personally consider it more "digital") but the usable range is no more than older backs ...and I do find my 528c's DR (a little bit) more than my D800E... that is unless I go for an unnatural picture... which of course is a "personal taste" matter... but again I haven't seen any serious print that people work on the DR against "weight" of HLs and LLs... :talk028:
and particularly the P21+! What I've seen of the H4D40 (on the web... and here on the forums) also looks very good.Sorry but the only Kodak. Back that can do at least a good ISO 400 was the P30
To each his own...In fact who needs more than 22? ...What do people see different on ultra high resolution backs other than resolution? How high a factor do you rate analysis for the quality of your photography...? Personally I rate it no more than fifth, DR being the first, color accuracy being second, workflow and software performance, ease of use, stability and capabilities being third... there after, I don't care much... :toocool:
Perhaps he is asking about need vs want? The 'need' for certain resolution would be dictated by clients or job specifications I would think and should be pretty easy to specify. What one wants is of course a different kettle of fish, when it gets to personal desires the sky is of course the limit, everyone will have their own set of standards, own set of requirements and own benchmark.To each his own...
Not only do I use an 80Meg back, I stitch it 2x2 Why? Because I desire to make 4' prints that you can view at any distance with no compromises. Nothing less than 300dpi will suffice.
Some people use 8x10 film, so what?
What's your point?
I do. I'm not a pro at all and don't print 4 Feet images. But still feel the NEED. I only live once and I happen to find a great passion in photography (upgrading gear is definitely a huge part of that passion!) So I decided to have that as my only expensive hobby in life and get an elephant gun.
I think that a number of us here, and the Leica forum, are totally and absolutely of this mindset. Well said!I do. I'm not a pro at all and don't print 4 Feet images. But still feel the NEED. I only live once and I happen to find a great passion in photography (upgrading gear is definitely a huge part of that passion!) So I decided to have that as my only expensive hobby in life and get an elephant gun.
They were using 4x5...What where those doing 4 years ago when P65+ didn't exist and the maximum res available was of 39mps Bob? Did they started photography with P65+? :watch:
Why does an airline have 3 classes of travel, doesn't economy do for everyone to get from A to B.In fact who needs more than 22? ...What do people see different on ultra high resolution backs other than resolution? How high a factor do you rate analysis for the quality of your photography...? Personally I rate it no more than fifth, DR being the first, color accuracy being second, workflow and software performance, ease of use, stability and capabilities being third... there after, I don't care much... :toocool:
Yes, I was rather addressing the general trend. 80 megapixels is not extreme, but say if the next step 120 megapixels with even more color cast issues, requiring even more complicated lens designs for our beloved tech cams, would that be a welcome development? I question if more resolution is the feature we desire the most now when we are up at this level. But maybe it is?Solution: use the maker's post program. Phocus does a great job in sharpening a 60 meg file. I'm sure C1 also does.
Good question Geoff . here is my answerWhat you are referring to is a split in the tech camera world - many say that the 33-40 mp backs are the sweet spot, yet most of the higher end discussion focuses on the IQ180 and 80 mp. What gives?
... However, there is another issue - that of system balance, as "lesser" backs are more forgiving. An upgrade in resolution to the 80 mp back has a ripple effect throughout one's system, with the new back cost, but also needing newer lenses, more processing speed, storage costs, etc. Its an intense upgrade, not quite foregiving on the gear, but one needing the best equipment.
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As the big dogs move onto bigger backs, there is plenty of room behind them. There are many very good lenses to enjoy, nicely priced as others move on. For everyone on the bleeding edge, there's room in their wake.
You are a good bloke Yair - but sorry mate - I feel very sorry for serious museums and galleries who get sucked into trying to replicate what a multi shot back delivers with a single shot anything...Guys I think some of us have over reacted to Theodoros's post. He has huge experience with fine art reproduction and specifically with multi-shot products and If he believes that his camera is the best then there's nothing wrong with that and it certainly works well for him and for his business
However since the Aptus-II 12 came out (followed by the IQ180 and Credo 80) we are seeing a definite transition in many of the big museums, archives, galleries and repro-houses to the simpler, quicker and more flexible and efficient workflow of the single-shot products. Capture One 7's new processing engine has taken this systems one step further as it handles fine detail such as text, paper/ canvas texture and paint better than before.
I hate the term "game changer" but for most of these applications the Aptus-II 12 was indeed one...
Yair