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    IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Looks like I was one of the first to see this guy yesterday.

    I've also seen raw files from it and they are startling. I could see absolutely no noise - I mean zero noise, even in deep shadow areas, and even on 1 hour + exposures. Really, ZERO noise! The images were taken with the DF+ so I couldn't see the full quality of the files that we'd get with a tech cam but they looked pretty good in all other respects.

    I also heard from a Phase One dealer that Phase had their best year ever last year. How else could they afford all this R&D for new products?


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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    No, no, no. MFD is dead. Someone on the internet said so.

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Making money does not sound too dead to me unless they have a very good estate administrator.

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    All those cables... Looks like it's on life support to me...
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by tashley View Post
    All those cables... Looks like it's on life support to me...
    No tubes though, which is an encouraging sign.
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    From the samples I've seen these statements are a bit optimistic.

    If you saw the image with "Zero noise" then most likely noise reduction was on in the software (probably at the beta's default values).

    Realistically any image taken at the max of a system is going to have noise. If it didn't then they would list the specification of the max-exposure-length as being higher.

    Now from the samples I've seen the inherent noise at an hour at ISO140 cleans up very nicely in the software with only moderate impact to detail/color/texture etc. Which is a pretty freaking amazing statement.
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by dougpeterson View Post
    Now from the samples I've seen the inherent noise at an hour at ISO140 cleans up very nicely in the software with only moderate impact to detail/color/texture etc. Which is a pretty freaking amazing statement.
    While some will want to push the IQ260 to its 1hr limit, I assume most like me will max out at 10-20mins exposures. Within these sort of times are we to expected to have to use large amounts of NR for clean images or will minimum settings still be ok? I personally prefer my files a bit more crunchy and luminance noise doesn't bother me but colour NR (longer exposure on P65) just look smeared to my eye.

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Isn't it supposed to be wireless???
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by JoshMerwin View Post
    Isn't it supposed to be wireless???
    ;-)
    I am sure that if you open it up there will be a lot more than you see here

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by gazwas View Post
    While some will want to push the IQ260 to its 1hr limit, I assume most like me will max out at 10-20mins exposures. Within these sort of times are we to expected to have to use large amounts of NR for clean images or will minimum settings still be ok? I personally prefer my files a bit more crunchy and luminance noise doesn't bother me but colour NR (longer exposure on P65) just look smeared to my eye.
    Can't say for sure at this point. At that range I suspect very good results without the smearing and without the need for overly aggressive NR. But I want to examine real world raw files before I say definitively.
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    What they do stick a cable in every orifice?
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Don Libby View Post
    What they do stick a cable in every orifice?
    Don, not being from the UK you probably don't understand the "type" of photographer that attends this show. The people who are generally interested in this sort of exotic kit get drowned amongst the people who pretend they do. You know the type, call themselves "semi-pros" and walk around the exhibition with their longest/biggest lens and flash gun attached to their cameras.

    I bet all those cables look really cool to them!
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    what kills me is that it is 2013, we have 50,000$ worth of tech and it still can be brought to a dead standstill by the squiggly wire.

    must.be.a.better.way
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Wait, I think it figured it out. Each of those cables is going from the back, straight into Doug at various entry points, so he can download all the info about the new back and finish his write-up!!! That would explain his vast knowledge on them...

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    I'm more excited that it's mounted on a Linhof ... Yay!!!
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    What's up with the two tether cables? Looks like it's connected via FireWire & USB.

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    It's on an Arca Swiss F69 and connected via Firewire
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by yaya View Post
    It's on an Arca Swiss F69 and connected via Firewire
    I see Linhof sliding back and gears, isn't it a Linhof Techno?

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Actually you are right this one is on a techno on the Linhof-studio stand
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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    It's a Linhof Techno.

    And as regards NR, the ISO 50 Raw files I saw were at the default NR settings in C1 7 ie. 50/50/0 and super clean. Then there were a number of long exposure night shots at ISO140 - the only change was the 'Single Pixel' setting put up to 80. There was a little smearing evident but that could also have been camera shake in wild conditions - difficult to see, especially as the files were on the DF. The Beta firmware was recording every long-exposure shot as nearly 13 hours when they were plainly less than that judging by the short star trails so I estimated the exposure time.

    But there really was no noise visible in any of the shots. They looked a great deal cleaner than P45+, 1DsIII or 5DII files and closer to - possibly even cleaner than - D800 files shot at low ISO in good light. Sorry to mention it but just passing on what I've seen so far.

    I'll be very interested to see the back tested on a tech cam in good light and calm conditions. I've seen no high ISO results yet - clean high ISO files would certainly be a great step forward.

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    Re: IQ260 at Focus on Imaging Yesterday

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    No tubes though, which is an encouraging sign.
    That power cable is an I.V in disguise..

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