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When is the new Phase One camera coming out?
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dougpeterson
Workshop Member
The current df/df+ supports leaf shutters. They sync up to 1/1600th - faster than any other leaf shutter system.
I strongly believe the Schneider LS lens lineup will be supported on the new body.
GrahamWelland
Subscriber & Workshop Member
Ill take dumb and reliable. I would like bracketing and exposure comp to be decoupled and AF to be better than glacial too. Oh, and real leaf shutter operation vs focal plane shutter AND leaf shutter combo when shooting in LS mode.
Ok, ok, I'd also take multi AF points and tighter integration with the back too. Heck, a 2008 DSLR vs. 1998 DSLR would be a big improvement. The ONLY reason for my DF is to hold the glass!
A new kick butt wide angle TS Schneider lens wouldn't go amiss either. Give us a reason to not dream of a Leica S ...
Ok, ok, I'd also take multi AF points and tighter integration with the back too. Heck, a 2008 DSLR vs. 1998 DSLR would be a big improvement. The ONLY reason for my DF is to hold the glass!
A new kick butt wide angle TS Schneider lens wouldn't go amiss either. Give us a reason to not dream of a Leica S ...
EH21
Member
I bet it has more flight time before a recharge!
KeithL
Well-known member
Thanks, Doug.
Yes, I'm aware of the Schneider LS lenses. I'm not sure how the leaf shutters are implemented with the DF or obviously the new P1 body, but if it's anything like the Leica S system then I'll pass.
Leica S sequence:-
1.Shutter released
2.Mirror goes up
3.Aperture diaphragm closes down to desired f-stop
4.Focal plane shutter opens
5.Camera starts exposure electronically
6.Central shutter closes
7.Aperture opens
8.Focal plane shutter closes
9.Central shutter opens
10.Mirror returns
As some on this forum have found this is a recipe for vibration. I'm not sure of the DF firing sequence, perhaps it's better? It needs to be.
GrahamWelland
Subscriber & Workshop Member
DF is pretty much the same sequence. Two shutters trip vs just the leaf shutter alone.
Landscapelover
Senior Subscriber Member
As a landscape photographer, I am not very demanding. What I need are bigger viewfinder with split screen for MF, excellent AF (DF+ is good enough for me), great battery (DF+ with rechargeable battery is more than enough), good set-up for MUP and live view as good as cheap 35mm DSLRs.
It's very easy, just copy the Leica S2 and add a few, landscape photographers will be very happy
Can I ask for SK 24, 35mm and 300mm? T/S with some wide angle lenses would be nice.
Pramote
It's very easy, just copy the Leica S2 and add a few, landscape photographers will be very happy
Can I ask for SK 24, 35mm and 300mm? T/S with some wide angle lenses would be nice.
Pramote
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Is it possible to design a camera that can use both a focal plane shutter and leaf shutter lenses that does NOT follow that sequence? If so, I would have thought that Leica would have done so with the S2.
kdphotography
Well-known member
AF speed on the DF is okay. But now that we have these really great dilithium crystal batteries, I'd expect that the focusing motors can now jump to warp speed....
But more importantly, I'd like more AF accuracy--- and by that I mean control, or at least knowing more confidently where the camera has locked focus pre-focus mask check on the IQ MFDB. Okay, so I get that it's hard to have a bazillion focus points ala Canon eos, but I'd settle for just a couple more strategically spaced out, and controlled by both CF and a small button toggle control. Too much to ask? Then how about the option in a CF to light up a small AF cross hair in red in the viewfinder that shows exactly where the camera has locked focus?
I really don't want a camera like a DSLR or point and shoot that is so jam packed with electronics and features no one really uses. I just want a medium format platform that accomplishes "the basics" really really well.
Rock-solid, reliable, vibration free (focal/LS options), and great autofocus.
That's what I want when I invest in the next Phase camera. 2014?
Yeah, and I'd even take one in Ferrari edition red... Whatever Phase does, just don't slap on ebony wood grips on a camera body and call it "new."
ken
But more importantly, I'd like more AF accuracy--- and by that I mean control, or at least knowing more confidently where the camera has locked focus pre-focus mask check on the IQ MFDB. Okay, so I get that it's hard to have a bazillion focus points ala Canon eos, but I'd settle for just a couple more strategically spaced out, and controlled by both CF and a small button toggle control. Too much to ask? Then how about the option in a CF to light up a small AF cross hair in red in the viewfinder that shows exactly where the camera has locked focus?
I really don't want a camera like a DSLR or point and shoot that is so jam packed with electronics and features no one really uses. I just want a medium format platform that accomplishes "the basics" really really well.
Rock-solid, reliable, vibration free (focal/LS options), and great autofocus.
That's what I want when I invest in the next Phase camera. 2014?
Yeah, and I'd even take one in Ferrari edition red...
Whatever Phase does, just don't slap on ebony wood grips on a camera body and call it "new."ken
GrahamWelland
Subscriber & Workshop Member
I think many of us here who shoot tech cams have that same thought. Frequently.
Pick the tools that suit your goals and preferred shooting experience. Nothing wrong with that.
I still yearn for that single MF system that lets me abandon my Nikons, Fujis etc.
subrata1965
Member
Do not get surprised if you get Phase One Body w/ all DSLR features.AF speed on the DF is okay. But now that we have these really great dilithium crystal batteries, I'd expect that the focusing motors can now jump to warp speed....
But more importantly, I'd like more AF accuracy--- and by that I mean control, or at least knowing more confidently where the camera has locked focus pre-focus mask check on the IQ MFDB. Okay, so I get that it's hard to have a bazillion focus points ala Canon eos, but I'd settle for just a couple more strategically spaced out, and controlled by both CF and a small button toggle control. Too much to ask? Then how about the option in a CF to light up a small AF cross hair in red in the viewfinder that shows exactly where the camera has locked focus?
I really don't want a camera like a DSLR or point and shoot that is so jam packed with electronics and features no one really uses. I just want a medium format platform that accomplishes "the basics" really really well.
Rock-solid, reliable, vibration free (focal/LS options), and great autofocus.
That's what I want when I invest in the next Phase camera. 2014?
Yeah, and I'd even take one in Ferrari edition red...
ken
Rumors are Canon investing heavily in MF technology. We will not know anything before 2014! Canon Looking to Medium Format for Growth? « Canon Rumors
More Medium Format Talk [CR1] « Canon Rumors
Subrata
dougpeterson
Workshop Member
a Phase one body with DSRL features would be awesome actually. an accurate and fast auto focus to start.
actually it makes sense for the current flagship like of the full frame DSLRs to move to medium format, and let the prosumer line such as 800e and 5D be full frame 135mm
actually it makes sense for the current flagship like of the full frame DSLRs to move to medium format, and let the prosumer line such as 800e and 5D be full frame 135mm
Do not get surprised if you get Phase One Body w/ all DSLR features.
Canon Looking to Medium Format for Growth? « Canon Rumors
More Medium Format Talk [CR1] « Canon Rumors
Subrata
wentbackward
Member
I guess Pentax can thank Hassy and Phase for being so far behind, they seem to have really taken off.
I wish Phase/Mamiya would develop some new lenses for the RZ. Just a 35mm and a nice fast 70 or 80. Then I wouldn't need a new body or new features or anything else. It's the only limitation of an RZ and digital back ... then I can sit it out and wait for a new 6x7 digital back that would work on my techno as well!! Seems so obvious that this is what Phase should do.
I wish Phase/Mamiya would develop some new lenses for the RZ. Just a 35mm and a nice fast 70 or 80. Then I wouldn't need a new body or new features or anything else. It's the only limitation of an RZ and digital back ... then I can sit it out and wait for a new 6x7 digital back that would work on my techno as well!! Seems so obvious that this is what Phase should do.
GrahamWelland
Subscriber & Workshop Member
They would have to be out of their minds to consider either of those options. It would be commercial suicide to abandon either standard.
