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    Scene from my workplace, or rather a version of it that required some editing (a chimney actually obscures the view of St. Paul's cathedral, but by wandering about and shooting from multiple vantage points, I could piece the clear scene together).

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    Quote Originally Posted by JoelM View Post
    Very well done. Check out my buddies light painting still lifes (lives?).

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    Thanks for sharing he does beautiful work!
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    Oak tree snowstorm, btw this was one of my favorite images from this shoot.
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    3rd attempt at light painting, I have found light contamination in unintended places one of my biggest challenges so far.

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    Greg..... I hope you can take the time maybe to start a thread sharing your techniques and equipment used. Doesn't have to be a tutorial but just sharing some of your experiences - especially lighting equipment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vjbelle View Post
    Greg..... I hope you can take the time maybe to start a thread sharing your techniques and equipment used. Doesn't have to be a tutorial but just sharing some of your experiences - especially lighting equipment.

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    Thank you Victor, I will work on that. There is a gentleman by the name of Harold Ross who does amazing work. I would really like to go to one of his one on one workshops. I have attached a link to his website.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Haag View Post
    Thank you Victor, I will work on that. There is a gentleman by the name of Harold Ross who does amazing work. I would really like to go to one of his one on one workshops. I have attached a link to his website.

    https://www.haroldrossfineart.com/still-life
    Ditto with Dave Black. I’ve done landscape night photography/light painting with Lance Keimig too. Dave Black is more into the object/sculpting overall I feel.
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    Morning

    I quite like how the ice is breaking up on the edges of the more sheltered lakes, some nice shapes but harsh light.

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    Morning

    I quite like how the ice is breaking up on the edges of the more sheltered lakes, some nice shapes but harsh light.

    Have you considered a black&white conversion?

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    Yes, I have multiple versions in black and white, it just doesn't speak to me, it's not a great shot to be honest. If clouds had been better, light less harsh then maybe it would have worked, but left now so will never know!

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    St. Mary's cathedral in Sydney

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    Re: Fun with MF images

    When this Duck agreed to sit for a portrait, he/she failed to remove some grass from his/her beak
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    "Start of Life" Budding of Cherry Blossoms. Washington D.C.
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    (Note, ripples on the upper part of frame is the undulation of the Tidal Basin water)

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    Yes, I have multiple versions in black and white, it just doesn't speak to me, it's not a great shot to be honest. If clouds had been better, light less harsh then maybe it would have worked, but left now so will never know!

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    Mat,

    You will be happy to hear that I disagree with you. This shot has much potential in both color and black and white. You mentioned that you liked the structures on the left. The following are my suggestions to emphasize those structures.

    1. Burn (darken) all the bright snow areas so that they are just a little bit darker than your structures. It only needs to be slightly darker in order to direct the eye your structures.
    2. Burn the sky so that it is also darker than your structures.
    3. Burn the right side.
    4. Burn the bottom.
    5. After the burning, use curves to extend the tones so that you have a long tonal range from black to white (dark to bright).

    If you would like me to demonstrate what I mean, message me. I will give you a link to my private cloud, to which you can upload a raw file.

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    Hi Jesse

    Thanks for your comments, I have no issue with anyone disagreeing with me, happens all the time!

    Whilst I appreciate what you're saying, I would never do that amount of work or put that effort in to any image ever! It's not a bad composition and I do like the shapes and the mountain in the distance, but I didn't have time there so it was basically a grab shot as I was passing. If I had longer, then I would have done better to capture it in good light, probably also used a different focal length to bring the background closer but ultimately, you can't polish a turd as is often said!

    So I appreciate what you're saying but it is what it is and I don't like trying to drag it in to being something it's not, it's an ok image and if I want it to be better then I have to work harder at capturing it when it looks better, maybe even in blue hour would have worked, darker skies but glowing white mountains and snow would have been nice.

    Anyway, thanks for taking the time to offer your opinion!

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    Here's a shot I like a little better.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    ...but ultimately, you can't polish a turd as is often said!

    Funnily enough, if the turd is frozen, you probably can (not that I have attempted such a thing - but seemed appropriate to point this out with such a chilly image!)
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    Richmond - San Rafael bridge

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    Ethical feedback

    Hello all,

    Seeking the wise counsel of this group! Below are two versions of a picture I recently took (it will be familiar!). One shows the scene as it was (apart from removing a chimney that was in the way) and the other seeks a more pleasing composition by moving around some structures in the scene. I don't pretend it's a faithful depiction of the scene - just an image I like.

    Any thoughts on this sort of thing?

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    4th attempt at light painting, this time on a white Nova.

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    Re: Ethical feedback

    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hurst View Post
    Hello all,

    Seeking the wise counsel of this group! Below are two versions of a picture I recently took (it will be familiar!). One shows the scene as it was (apart from removing a chimney that was in the way) and the other seeks a more pleasing composition by moving around some structures in the scene. I don't pretend it's a faithful depiction of the scene - just an image I like.

    Any thoughts on this sort of thing?

    Ed

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    Ed,

    I would keep some of the ground clutter - the distant low buildings that you erased. It would make the moved spire look less pasted in. If that means moving the spire less, or placing some of the low buildings further right, I’m not sure.

    Anyway, I’ve no objection to manipulating scene elements.

    Nice pic,

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    Hi Ed,

    I very much agree with the posted comments of Matt. I feel the two spires (the one on the very left and the one on the right), balance well with each other. In addition, one can see the small part of the bottom of the spire on the right, giving legitimacy to its location, where in the 2nd manipulated image, it does look a bit like it was cut and paste as Matt suggested. Personally I much prefer and like the original image you posted.

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    Thank you both for your considered and thoughtful replies - I agree and will work on a version accordingly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hurst View Post
    Hello all,

    Seeking the wise counsel of this group! Below are two versions of a picture I recently took (it will be familiar!). One shows the scene as it was (apart from removing a chimney that was in the way) and the other seeks a more pleasing composition by moving around some structures in the scene. I don't pretend it's a faithful depiction of the scene - just an image I like.

    Any thoughts on this sort of thing?

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    I am rather ambivalent about this type of manipulation. What I find that makes them unsatisfactory is they are too planned, too conceptual, which eliminates the accidents, those odd features we don't usually notice until we clean them up. For example, I have never seen a perfectly flat series of roof tops. Also the tower on the right which you moved into the center, no longer has a natural perspective, it somehow looks pasted because it does not align with change in perspective across the image. These are very subtle and probably no one will ever consciously mark them, but it does create a strange unease in the image.
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    A fishing boat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ed Hurst View Post
    Hello all,

    Seeking the wise counsel of this group! Below are two versions of a picture I recently took (it will be familiar!). One shows the scene as it was (apart from removing a chimney that was in the way) and the other seeks a more pleasing composition by moving around some structures in the scene. I don't pretend it's a faithful depiction of the scene - just an image I like.

    Any thoughts on this sort of thing?

    Ed
    I don't have any ethical problems with manipulation like this (as long as you don't submit it for a contest in which this is not allowed) but I feel it's not needed (the unaltered image is excellent "as-is" for me), and like several said your eye still picks up subtle hints that "something isn't right". Probably not seeing both images side-by-side will not give the viewer a hint what exactly has been done with the second image unless he studies it in a lot of detail.

    But I've done this kind of stuff myself, like moving birds to a different place in the sky as well as removing disturbing street signs and lamp posts.

    I would be interested to see a version with the "disturbing chimney" in place, just out of curiosity and see what kind of hoops you had to jump through to get the complete building behind it.
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    River Tees...
    (no trees were moved!)



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    [QUOTE=AlanS;785791]River Tees...
    (no trees were moved!)




    Alan, Please dont,or else, Forestry Dept of your locan council will be after you.
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    Don't need to worry about the council, the wind knocks most of the trees over!
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    Little Cove, Bruce Peninsula National Park, Ontario. IQ4 150, SK 35 mm.
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    For some reason my photo above looks over sharpened on the site, but not in C1 on my computer...

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    Berlin in April

    Shot two days ago in April... with Alpa STC and Rodie 40mm and Phase IQ4 150...
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    Something a little different.

    During our photo shoot the model talked about a recent personal tragedy she had been dealing with over the last year and that she was now ready to start moving ahead. She asked to doing something using the projected lightning bolt and I think we were subconsciously drawn to this setup using oblique lighting which we gradually worked and tweaked into this arrangement. Looking at the image now I clearly see someone who is ready to leave their past in the background as they begin their journey forward. I don't think either of us realized at the time why we were creating this image but I love the collaborative result.

    Phase One XF / IQ4 150 MP with a 150mm LS lens. Unmodified flash camera left with a red gel, strip box camera right (both positioned slightly behind the backdrop) and a LightBlaster to project the lightning bolt onto her back.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bill Caulfeild-Browne View Post
    For some reason my photo above looks over sharpened on the site....
    Well, it is a very sharp site...
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    Morning

    I'd quite like to live here, love the crappy weather too.

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    Happy Easter everyone!

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    Our garden gate, with a nod to Wabi Sabi and our grandchildren.
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    Wabi Sabi elements lend themselves to different means of expressions. This is the Happy Easter version we sent out with a different message for each recipient based on individual life circumstances. I like it.

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    Springtime in Switzerland. Eiger and Moench.
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    Eiger and Mönch a different way
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    Nice, thanks for sharing. Is this shot on the Lofoten?

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    I'd quite like to live here, love the crappy weather too.

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    Yes it is, Reine on Lofoten, this is the shot every man and his dog takes, but longer lens and swing left a bit, and you get the above scene. Whilst this shot is not very imaginative, it's no surprise everyone takes it, a stunning place.

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    Funnily enough, if the turd is frozen, you probably can (not that I have attempted such a thing - but seemed appropriate to point this out with such a chilly image!)
    Does not have to be frozen ....

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    Mers-les-Bains
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    GFX(r), 100-200, MCEX-18G



    I was earlier looking at the 120 macro with OIS. But the cost was impressive!
    Now I have tried my 100-200 with the 18 mm extension ring, and I am positively surprised of the result.
    This picture is handheld and cropped to square of full size. f/8.

    At 100% the in focus area is pin sharp, and an irritated ant is clearly visible in the middle, open, flower.

    So it will fulfil all my macro needs. They are not that demanding, so your mileage may vary.

    Ray
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    Quote Originally Posted by Michiel Schierbeek View Post
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    Pentax 645Z Mamiya shift 55/4
    How were you able to get the Mamiya lens to work with your Pentax 645z? I thought Pentax had a greater flange distance than Mamiya 645 cameras? (I assume you're using the Mamiya 645 lens)

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    [QUOTE=Charles S;785943]Eiger and Mönch a different way
    H3D HC35mm

    Yes boss, I love it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grayhand View Post
    GFX(r), 100-200, MCEX-18G



    I was earlier looking at the 120 macro with OIS. But the cost was impressive!
    Now I have tried my 100-200 with the 18 mm extension ring, and I am positively surprised of the result.
    This picture is handheld and cropped to square of full size. f/8.

    At 100% the in focus area is pin sharp, and an irritated ant is clearly visible in the middle, open, flower.

    So it will fulfil all my macro needs. They are not that demanding, so your mileage may vary.

    Ray
    Ray, that is beautiful.

    I like the colors, and the overall image. So, yes, I would agree the 100-200 is a great alternative and a super value!
    Best regards,
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    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    Yes it is, Reine on Lofoten, this is the shot every man and his dog takes, but longer lens and swing left a bit, and you get the above scene. Whilst this shot is not very imaginative, it's no surprise everyone takes it, a stunning place.
    At least it's only the second most common fishing village shot from Lofoten behind the shot of Hamnoy off of the bridge Always a beautiful scene though
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    L_001397 by jean-luc cochy, sur Flickr



    Phase one DF Leaf aptus 65 and 55 mm .
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