Site Sponsors
Page 1 of 2 1 2 LastLast
Results 1 to 50 of 57

Thread: I made tripod head ;)

  1. #1
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    I made tripod head ;)

    I could not buy a precise, but small tripod head... I made it myself
    http://www.grzegorzpedzich.com/
    Likes 10 Member(s) liked this post

  2. #2
    Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    142
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    +1

    I love stuff like this.

  3. #3
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2011
    Location
    W. NY, close to Toronto, far from NYC
    Posts
    1,429
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    9

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    I wish I could do that; it might be more fun than taking photos
    Last edited by tsjanik; 15th April 2014 at 07:43.

  4. #4
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    I wish I could that; it might be more fun than taking photos
    ...but to capture images is useful

  5. #5
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    nice job; did you do it personally?...these involve some fairly tricky machining.
    interesting to see three sizes of the goniometric style heads. also the first time i have seen the Seiki (middle size)

  6. #6
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    nice job; did you do it personally?...these involve some fairly tricky machining.
    interesting to see three sizes of the goniometric style heads. also the first time i have seen the Seiki (middle size)
    yes of the items available on eBay
    I made two heads
    first: two goniometers 40x40mm, horusbennu pano head (52mm diameter), and sunwayfoto DDH02 pano clamp (52mm diameter)
    second: two goniometers 60x60mm, horusbennu pano head (52mm diameter), and iShot pano clamp (58mm diameter)
    a few screws... and done
    http://www.grzegorzpedzich.com/
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2009
    Location
    NYC
    Posts
    276
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Well done!
    Mechanical engineering put to excellent use!
    Ciao,
    Giorgio Niro
    www.giorgioniro.com

  8. #8
    Senior Member kdphotography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Carmel/Tucson
    Posts
    2,355
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Don't tease! What are the capabilities/specifications/options?

    Nice to see a smaller/lighter option to the venerable AS Cube with similar specifications.

    Are these available for sale, where, how, etc.

    And does it come with a nice Coach Leather Purse/Case?

    ken

  9. #9
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    so you purchased the goniometric stages, fastened them together and...voila!

  10. #10
    Senior Member alajuela's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2012
    Location
    Shanghai / Miami
    Posts
    552
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    124

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grzegorz Pedzich View Post
    I could not buy a precise, but small tripod head... I made it myself

    This is really great!! -- Great job!!

    If you don't mind - where to get the parts, - not the clamp or the base, but the adjustable middle parts.

    Thanks

    Phil

  11. #11
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    found this item, stock from Suruga Seiki:

    http://eng.surugaseiki.com/page_img/B57-70U_p.jpg

  12. #12
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    What are the capabilities/specifications/options?
    ...
    Are these available for sale, where, how, etc.

    ken
    this is leveling head, like Linhof 3D micro
    geared tilt 20° front, rear, left and right
    2 x 360° pano (bottom and top)

    small head: 3 kg load, weight: 750g
    large head: 6 kg load, weight: 1565g

    you can do it yourself
    http://www.grzegorzpedzich.com/
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  13. #13
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by alajuela View Post
    This is really great!! -- Great job!!

    If you don't mind - where to get the parts, - not the clamp or the base, but the adjustable middle parts.

    Thanks

    Phil
    I buy all on eBay
    search: goniometer (Suruga Seiki, Newport, Kohzu, Optisigma, MMT)

    I use Suruga Seiki goniometers, heavy but precise and powerful
    http://www.grzegorzpedzich.com/
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  14. #14
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    598
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Brilliant idea. I had not realised that these parts were readily available. Thanks!

  15. #15
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    found this item, stock from Suruga Seiki:

    http://eng.surugaseiki.com/page_img/B57-70U_p.jpg
    This model is even better than my

  16. #16
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    That is a really great job you have done here .
    Congrats .
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  17. #17
    Subscriber & Workshop Member GrahamWelland's Avatar
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Vancouver, WA
    Posts
    5,802
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    564

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Glad to see that the obligatory Alpa eye candy is mounted on the goniometer

    Remember: adventure before dementia!

    As Oscar Wilde said, "my tastes are simple, I only like the best"
    Likes 2 Member(s) liked this post

  18. #18
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by greygrad View Post
    +1

    I love stuff like this.
    Me too.
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Sep 2013
    Posts
    598
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    found this item, stock from Suruga Seiki:

    http://eng.surugaseiki.com/page_img/B57-70U_p.jpg
    It only goes to ±10°, while the one presented here goes to ±20°.

  20. #20
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by jerome_m View Post
    It only goes to ±10°, while the one presented here goes to ±20°.
    Yes Jerome .
    So , if you want more than ±10° you must go for the B54 SUGURA SEIKI series of goniometers. Is now MISUMI .
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  21. #21
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)


  22. #22
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Grzegorz

    How thick is the adapter plate on top and bottom and where did you get them?
    Can't read the proper numbers . Can you please give them as well ?
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  23. #23
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Jürgen,
    adapter plates: Suruga Seiki A49-B, 10 mm
    I bought it on eBay
    but you can do it with a piece of aluminum
    as it is in that small head

  24. #24
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Grzegorz

    Thank you very much for your inspiration .
    Altough I have an ARCA CUBE and also an ARCA D4 geared head , I like your idea very much .
    Just for fun , I decided to build a "Grzegorz Mini Cube" .
    I knew , this would end up like this . The temptation was too big .
    I hope , you have no patent pending for your idea .

    All parts are on order now . The cost will be about 1/3 or even less of the LINHOF head .
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  25. #25
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Jürgen,
    I also use Arca-Swiss CUBE and Manfrotto 410, but sometimes it is too big
    I built this "Mini Cube" to a small Sirui Tripod
    I do not like ball heads
    the idea is not patented I make it for others
    oh, Linhof able to patent the idea

  26. #26
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    aha, I suggest, as the upper pano use Sunwayfoto DDH-03 or DDH-03i

  27. #27
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jul 2008
    Location
    North Sweden
    Posts
    1,402
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    This is cool! I see they do motorised versions too, what we need is a 2 axis tilt switch that can operate the motorised base and you have a self levelling cube!

  28. #28
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    noting that you put the 80mm rotation center unit on the bottom, 60mm on the top, this places rotations centers for both at 60mm above the top surface (2-3/8") which would be the optimal lens center. my Cambo has it's center about 4" above it's base, put in a pano-quick clamp raises it another 7/8", so these little gonio units will have a bit of lateral shift when rotated.
    compared to the Arca cube.:
    just quickly checked the numbers on the Arca: both stages have a 3" rotation center, they do not have their rotation centers centered, but separated by about 1". so the bottom stage center is about 5/8 above the quick clamp, the top center is about 1-5/8 above the quick clamp. not that I have ever heard a complaint about the asymmetric lateral movement

  29. #29
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    This is cool! I see they do motorised versions too, what we need is a 2 axis tilt switch that can operate the motorised base and you have a self levelling cube!
    Yes , there are motorized goniometer stages . But look at the prices .
    And you would need a power source for that motorized cube as well .

    You do not really mean that , a motorized cube . Do you ? ? ?
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  30. #30
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Couldn't this be the ideal base goniometer stage for a micro cube for spy cameras ? ? ?
    The square stage size is just 25x25mm . And the price is below 300 € .
    So everyone could afford a cube .
    Attachment 80740
    And it is also available as motorized version .
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  31. #31
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    My Baby Cube is born . Shots taken with iPHONE 4S .

    Attachment 80928 Attachment 80929
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Likes 7 Member(s) liked this post

  32. #32
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    nice, needs something in the picture for scale though

  33. #33
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    253
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Jürgen, could you perhaps post the total weight?

    Where did you order the goniometer, if I may ask?

    Chris

  34. #34
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by Grzegorz Pedzich View Post
    this is leveling head, like Linhof 3D micro
    geared tilt 20° front, rear, left and right
    2 x 360° pano (bottom and top)

    small head: 3 kg load, weight: 750g
    large head: 6 kg load, weight: 1565g

    you can do it yourself
    The idea for this project came from Grzegorz Pedzich

    The weight for my BABY CUBE is 1625g .
    I plan to replace the top and bottom adapter plates with plates of black hard PVC . That would reduce the total weight by 120g .
    In comparison to the LINHOF or ARCA CUBE , the baby cube is rather heavy . (a well fed baby)
    This is due to the fact , that the goniometers are made of brass .
    The ARCA SWISS or LINHOF cubes are made of aviation aluminium .
    I got the goniometers (used) from E-BAY , as Grzegorz did.
    If you would buy the goniometer stages new , the total cost would be
    much more than a new ARCA or LINHOF MICRO D3 cube and that would not even include the top and bottom pano devices .
    So far , the disadvantage .

    An advantage is the extremely precise and soft motion in the x and y axis .
    If this is needed ? Decide this by yourself .
    For me making and using the BABY CUBE is great fun .

    Attachment 80930
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  35. #35
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2010
    Location
    Germany
    Posts
    253
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Thank you. Stupid me, I didn't realize it was the goniometer shown by Grzegorz Pedzich. Probably because I had hoped that there is a lightweight baby cube :-) I have the adult version but sometimes I wish there was less weight in my camera bag ...

    Chris

  36. #36
    Senior Member kdphotography's Avatar
    Join Date
    Aug 2008
    Location
    Carmel/Tucson
    Posts
    2,355
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    The weight of the "baby cube" is a big disadvantage here for me---I'd want it to be lighter than the original AS Cube (~2 pounds) and leaner/smaller and more svelte.

    Using the RRS TVC-24 tripod legs, the AS Cube is just a bit top heavy---it works fine, but a lighter leaner alternative would be ideal. Trimming the profile down ala baby cube would be ideal, but not if it is actually heavier than the original AS Cube. Smaller is nice, but the weight doesn't address the top-heavy issue for me.

    Still pretty damn cool. I think you should engrave your personal logo/name on that baby cube!

    ken

  37. #37
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Ken, I made two "baby cubes":
    1 - like Jürgen's "cube" (1600g)
    2 - smaller "baby cube" (750g) and more svelte

    smaller version maybe ideal for RRS TVC-24,
    I use it with Sirui t-2004x and ALPA STC


    (see pictures at the beginning of thread)
    http://www.grzegorzpedzich.com/
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  38. #38
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    . . . . I think you should engrave your personal logo/name on that baby cube!
    I have that in mind and will get a "logo" engraved , when I have the final adapter plates . Just for fun .
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  39. #39
    New Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    10
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    hey Grzegorz,that´s really funny,you have beat me about 4 weeks. i was reading a thread recently about the cube and it´s clone the photo clam mulitflex and someone mentioned goniometers.and since i am not that super rich i thought i will do this myself.i already ordered all the parts and had a meeting with a metal workshop here in my hometown to get the mounting plates done by them (i didn´t know there was the a49-b...) since i didn´t get the goniometers yet i was not able to determine the thickness of the mounting plates yet.to be able to rotate the pano clamp i have to use a certain thickness,otherwise the clamping knob will interfere with the knob that controls the gear of the upper gonio,or the base plate of the latter.since i also ordered the ddh-03 (this is really amazing,i have almost the exact same setup that you have,except for the base pan unit) can you tell me how much clearence i need to get the clamping nob going over the gear-knob at the maximum of 20 degrees,and maybe at 10 degrees (just as a reference,usually,i think it schould not be a problem to level the tripod at least so much that i don´t need more than an adjustment of 10 degrees,and a smaller and sleeker head would be nice)
    this is really amazing,though i have to admit that i am bit sad not to be the first who was thinking of that..
    greetings,and great work there!

  40. #40
    New Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    10
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Ah,and one more question.. do you think it is possible to cut a 7mm long thread into the center of the base or do you hit the worm gear then?On your small cube you assembled the panning base directly with the goniometers,without a plate in between.

  41. #41
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Lorenz(X),
    top plate (between goniometer and pano), I think, must be about 8-10 mm
    bottom goniometer You can instal directly on bottom pano, but you must make threads into pano (if pano diameter is greater than the diagonal of the goniometer)
    I recommend use bottom plate, may by 5 mm
    http://www.grzegorzpedzich.com/
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  42. #42
    Member Grzegorz Pedzich's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2011
    Location
    Warsaw, Poland
    Posts
    28
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    3

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    if you use 40 mm goniometers, you can make 5-6 mm top plate, if 60 mm goniometers - 10 mm

    I hope I helped
    http://www.grzegorzpedzich.com/
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  43. #43
    New Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    10
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Thank you VERY much Grzegorz!!!
    Since I am already waiting for for more than an month to get my goniometers I just ordered another one,made of aluminium,and much much lighter.And with a length of each side of 70mm.But also with less travel.It can rotate 12 degrees in every direction.I think I will build that one first,and when the 60mm ones arrive finally (I hope they will!) I will just finish that one as well.And maybe,if I come to the conclusion that I need 20 degrees of travel,I will keep it.Otherwise I think I will sell it as a cheap alternative for the cube and the multiflex.I guess that I will not need the 20 degrees of travel,ususally its no problem to level with a maximum offset of 12 degrees fairly quick,and saving about 700g means that it can be my standard tripod head except for when I want to go really really lightweight!Again,this thread is amazing!Thank you very much for sharing all that and for your help with the details!

  44. #44
    Workshop Member
    Join Date
    Nov 2007
    Location
    Brooklyn
    Posts
    4,043
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    1253

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    here's a little something i don't think has been noticed. the Cube uses a curved rack and pinion drive with the knob and driveshaft perpendicular to the plane of rotation. one turn of the knob moves the rack one pinion gear circumference, about 1/2" for the Cube

    the gonios show above use a worm drive, with the driveshaft and knob in the plane of rotation. worms have an inherent greater gear ratio, meaning the action requires less knob torque and conversely takes more turns per degree and has a finer resolution. one turn of the knob moves the rack one "pitch" of the worm gear, which i am guessing is about .060 to .090" of rack travel per turn, so maybe five more turns for the same amount of rotation as the cube does in one turn

    another advantage of the worm is that the knobs are out of the way more (at least in one side of the movement per knob), so they can be longer and easier to grip
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  45. #45
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    . . . . . . .
    the gonios show above use a worm drive, with the driveshaft and knob in the plane of rotation. worms have an inherent greater gear ratio, meaning the action requires less knob torque and conversely takes more turns per degree and has a finer resolution. one turn of the knob moves the rack one "pitch" of the worm gear, which i am guessing is about .060 to .090" of rack travel per turn, so maybe five more turns for the same amount of rotation as the cube does in one turn

    another advantage of the worm is that the knobs are out of the way more (at least in one side of the movement per knob), so they can be longer and easier to grip
    The LINHOF 3D MICRO has a worm gear as well , but the pitch is much higher than with the shown gonios .

    What I like with the gonios 's worm gear is the very smooth and precise movement . If a lot of movement is required , you have of course to do more turns . I already got used to that . I usually don't do much movements anyway .

    Regarding the topic of this thread , my intention is the build a "cube" smaller than the ARCA or LINHOF but also lighter .
    Part one of the goal is achieved . Smaller .
    I am checking for lighter gonios of the same size (60x60 stage) made of aluminium .
    I have found that product now , but currently can't establish a contact to the seller .
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  46. #46
    New Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    10
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    Hi jotloob,
    exactly my intention as well!And since the 6x6cm (or 7x7 in my case) are already smaller than the existing cubes and I think they are the perfect size for any gear I will use them with I am trying to one of these as light as possible without compromising strength.I think I can build one of these with a weight of about 880g wich is quite nice I guess.For really lightweight stuff I will use a ballhead (Arca P0,nice little head and really good at what it does.Can hold a lot of weight as well,but of course not as easily set up really perfectly as one of the gonio heads.)
    Wich brings me to another point.I will use a sunwayfoto pano clamp as the lower rotating base and one as the upper one.I also ordered both with the dovetail adapter that screws to the clamp for using it with a non rotating clamp,one of these adapters will go to the base of the gonio,so I will not need a plate in between,and the total height of the hole thing will be pretty low.(As well as the total weight!The DDH-03 is still 80g lighter then the lightes pano base in that size)
    With the other dovetail adapter I will make a leveling device.I ordered a very big circular spirit level with a crosshair.This way I got the leveling device exactly where the camera will go and hope to achieve the highest accuracy.I found one with 65mm diameter and a very good resolution.I don´t trust those levels that you put into the flash syncs of the camera.
    How do you do that?

  47. #47
    New Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    10
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    hi there,
    so now my mini-cube or better the budget version of the linhof micro 3d is finished and i am absolutely in love with this thing.i just wanted to give a little summary of what i did,for those who want to build one for themselves
    there have been some further changes since i wrote something about my plan the last time and now i am perfectly satisfied with the result.in the first picture you get an overview of all the stuff that is going to be built into this head. it´s 2 pano-clamps from sunwayfoto,i used the smaller ddh-02i. since the lever for locking the rotation was not long enough to be operated comfortably i asked the workshop to make a longer version for the lower rotating base (picture 1,2,3).the silver disc is exactly as thick as it has to be to get the upper pano-clamp high enough not to interfere with the goniometer while rotating (picture 6).the two very big knobs were coming with the gonios originally,but are too long and to big to be used,so i had two smaller knobs being machined.then there is the pretty big spirit level wich is glued to a dovetail adapter so i can use it either in the pano-clamp or in the nodal rail,exactly where the camera is going to be.the other dovetail adapter is going to the lower gonio so the lower pano-clamp can be clamp to that. (pictures 2,3) the workshop cut two m6 threads into the base of the lower gonio (picture 2) and one m6 thread into the upper part of the upper gonio for the pano-clamp (picture 5) finally (on picture 7) the whole thing is assembled. the knobs are really perfectly sized for smooth operating,and not too big,so accidental operating is not a problem.the lower pano base with the custom made panning lock lever works very nice this way.the lever comes nicely into reach,if i was using the original one (as you can see on the upper pano-clam on picture 7) it would be much harder.everything of importance falls well into reach of the right hand.so firstly you can use the lower pano to get the whole head into the right position,with the knob of the lower gonio facing oneself and the other knob to the right.both panning levers to the right as well,and both clamping knobs to the left,those are not really of importance once they are locked.on picture 8 you can see that the legs can stand in a very steep angle (actually one i would never leave the legs in,i would always level the whole thing a bit more) and the head is still able to be leveled.finally,on picture 9,you can see that the spirit level has a crosshair that is being used in conjunction with the x and y axis of the gonios,so leveling is a breeze.
    the head without the spirit level or the nodal rail weighs exactly 1167g,so sadly it´s not lighter than the cube or the linhof,but much less expensive.in total it has cost me 420 euros,the labor at the workshop and toll fees included.
    one thing that i noticed is related to the leveling.i got a bubble level on the upper pano,one on the nodal rail (those two show pretty much exactly the same thing wich seems to be off a little..) the big spirit level seems to be perfect,but when i rotate the upper pano about 90 degrees it´s not completely perfect any more.it´s not much,but of course it would feel better if it was otherwise... so i don´t know what to do about that,i think i will have to let this problem go! i read in another thread that it´s not uncommon that every single spirit or bubble level is showing something different.i think i will just use the big one i made and be okay with that.i stitched a pano containing 9 pictures and between the first and the last picture the offset was 12 pixels (negligable)
    Likes 1 Member(s) liked this post

  48. #48
    New Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Posts
    10
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    a few more pics
    Likes 2 Member(s) liked this post

  49. #49
    Subscriber Member jotloob's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2008
    Location
    KEMPTEN / GERMANY
    Posts
    1,513
    Post Thanks / Like
    Images
    116

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    A very nice work and well done .
    Regards . Jürgen .
    -----------------------------------------------------------------------------------

  50. #50
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Feb 2009
    Location
    Scottsdale, AZ
    Posts
    484
    Post Thanks / Like

    Re: I made tripod head ;)

    While I have an Arca Cube for my "big rig" tripod and am quite happy with it, I also wanted a geared head for my ultra-lightweight travel tripod. But of course no such thing exists, so taking my lead from others who contributed to this thread, I assembled one myself and here is the result:



    As shown above, the head weighs 5.8 ounces / 165 grams, which is a savings of 2.2 ounces over the ballhead I was using (Benro B00, which is the lightest, decent-performing ballhead I could find) and literally a fraction of the weight of my Cube. It was built using 25mm x 25mm Melles Griot goniometers and a Melles Griot rotational stage (I skipped adding a second rotational stage at the bottom of the stack because my tripod's center column rotates freely, making it unnecessary and saving a bit more weight and cash.) The clamp is a no-name one from China (but after I finished assembling this version last week, I found an even smaller and lighter one on eBay, so will try that once it arrives.)

    Unlike most goniometers, the bodies of these are made of aluminum, not brass, hence their light weight. Unfortunately, this also means their load capacity is fairly low, but I'm using them with a Sony RX1 that weighs just over 1 lb. and so far, I've had absolutely zero issues with it. The control knobs would benefit from being a tiny bit larger (and I will investigate my options for replacing them down the road), but even with my large hands, I've had no problem using any of them.

    Of course, the other downside is cost: All-in, I spent just under $400 on parts (including some other pieces acquired as part of a package deal -- a single-axis translation stage, a second rotational stage, and an XYZ (three-axis) translation stage -- which I didn't use and are not shown here) and I spent nearly a year acquiring them on eBay and from other internet sources for prices I was willing to pay, so if you're in a hurry, expect to pay more -- and potentially a lot more, as some sellers are mighty proud of them! -- for the necessary bits and pieces. (Note: There are also 25mm x 25mm goniometers and positioning stages made by other manufacturers and available both new and used, but for various reasons -- typically, they were too heavy or had too low a load limit -- I decided against using them.)

    I initially attached the head to the tripod via an adapter plate, but now that I've proved the concept and am happy with how it works, I'm in the process of modifying the tripod's center column so I can mount it directly without using an adapter. Not only will this save an additional .8 ounces, it'll also make for a more rigid, direct connection to the column and provide a little bit more stability to boot. Unfortunately, the required modifications will be permanent -- there'll be no going back later! -- but I've just acquired a second, used tripod as a backup, so I'm okay with this.

    Once completed, the final tripod / geared head combo should weigh right around 2 lbs., 2 ounces, which isn't too awfully bad. In fact, my complete travel outfit -- Sony RX1, modified Sony wide-angle converter for the 28mm/f2.8 lens, EVF, four spare batteries, four 32GB SD cards, 3" cable release, 49mm IR filter, microfiber lens cleaning cloth, and a Manfrotto Nano VI belt pouch to carry everything -- presently weighs a whopping 4 lbs., 6 ounces. Ultimately, with some other modifications I have in mind for it, I expect to get the weight of the tripod / head combo to just under 2 lbs. and the total weight of the outfit to 4 lbs., 2 ounces, but we'll see. (Yes, I know saving a few more ounces at this point is silly, but this project has become an intellectual curiosity -- how low can I go without sacrificing performance or ease of use? -- plus I'm presently unemployed, so have time on my hands hence why not?)

    So thanks to all for the inspiration! (And if anybody wishes to follow in my footsteps, I'll be happy to answer any questions I can, although I believe this is a fairly simple and straightforward project. Honestly, the only difficult part of it was finding the necessary parts at reasonable prices.)
    Likes 5 Member(s) liked this post

Tags for this Thread

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •