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    Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    I suggested this thread while commenting on another thread concerning technical cameras and thought Id start the ball rolling

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    Don,

    I was thinking of using an Acratech leveling base with an RRS panning clamp (no ball head at all). I assume you like the base, yes?

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    Quote Originally Posted by stephengilbert View Post
    Don,

    I was thinking of using an Acratech leveling base with an RRS panning clamp (no ball head at all). I assume you like the base, yes?

    Steve
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    Ive actually used that same setup when I was doing my panoramas with the RRS ultimate setup. I may take off the ballhead but I never remove the leveling base.

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    Don, that is one honkin' tripod setup you have there! You could prop up a car with that thing!
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    Haha, I've taken a few quick pictures of my gear and what I've done to streamline some of it. I'll post it tomorrow when I wake up. Great idea for a thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Don, that is one honkin' tripod setup you have there! You could prop up a car with that thing!
    I have an older Gitzo tripod that I still use when I have to go any distance; the down side is that I need to use an angle viewer on my AFD. This tripod setup puts the camera just about at eye level (remember Im 6-9). Jack wont have trouble however Ken and Guy might need a milk carton

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    I have an older Gitzo tripod that I still use when I have to go any distance; the down side is that I need to use an angle viewer on my AFD. This tripod setup puts the camera just about at eye level (remember Im 6-9). Jack wont have trouble however Ken and Guy might need a milk carton

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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    OK it's not medium format, but here is my technical rig (so to speak):



    The lens arrived today and I have been doing tests and trying to get the hang of it.
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    Here are a few quick images of my equipment. I included my HPRC 3500 because I custom molded my SWA and Max out of layers of foam and lined them with Veltex. The Manfrotto 405's image shows what I've done with orienting the head upside down to allow a leveled 360 degree rotational axis after the x and y axis' are leveled out.








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    Great keep 'em coming!

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    (gets me off the CUBE thread)
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    Carlos, what lens hood do you have on your Hartblei?
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    It's the Hartblei hood. It's an optional piece. The previous owner had ordered it with the lens. Looks good, but the threads are a little stiff on this copy. Hopefully when I add an 82mm UV filter, things will go more smoothly. Hartblei recently relaunched their website (hartblei.eu & hartblei.de) and offer hoods as options on their three new lenses.
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    Hey Andrew,

    What's the box your shutter release and wake up cable are connecting to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsnip_lee View Post
    Hey Andrew,

    What's the box your shutter release and wake up cable are connecting to?

    Sean

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    That's the micro-switch which is the main component of the Kapture Group 1-Shot Cable.

    Phase One digital backs require a wakeup signal* (except the P65+) prior to being shot. On a medium format body like the Phamiya or Hasselblad the wakeup signal is automatically provided by the body. On a tech camera it is manually given either by:
    1) a manual button press on a separate cable (which wakes up the back and give you 5 seconds to take the shot)
    2) taking two shots in a row (the first is seen as a wakeup)
    3) using a Kapture Group 1-Shot Cable which gives both signals from one plunger depression

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    Thanks Doug.

    I've just jumped into the wonderful world of MFDBs with a Phase One P25+ and a Cambo Wide DS. The Kapture Group 1-Shot cable sounds like a great accessory, does Capture Integration sell them?

    Thanks

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    Quote Originally Posted by parsnip_lee View Post
    Thanks Doug.

    I've just jumped into the wonderful world of MFDBs with a Phase One P25+ and a Cambo Wide DS. The Kapture Group 1-Shot cable sounds like a great accessory, does Capture Integration sell them?

    Thanks
    Yes along with two other types of wakeup cables, one of which we make ourselves.

    You have a PM.

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    Last edited by dougpeterson; 21st January 2009 at 08:16.

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    The KG One Shot is a great solution for any MFDB setup using a Phase One back. Also, if you set your shutter latency on Short, you can wake the back up and release the shutter in one quick throw. If the shutter latency is on Long, you will have to wait half a second before fully depressing the cable release to actuate the lens.

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    Thanks guys, very helpful.

    I contacted Kapture Group directly and immediately placed an order.

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    Went and had lunch with Chris over at CI yesterday (Doug is in Moab) and I got to check out the Cambo Wide DS. Much smaller than I expected! Don Libby's Wide RS must be tiny! Anyway I snapped some pics of the system so I thought I'd share them in this thread. I also noticed that there was no Cambo Digital group pool on flickr so I created one. All are welcome to join. (http://www.flickr.com/groups/cambodigital)
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    Don Libby's Wide RS must be tiny!

    I like the idea of a small portable tech camera and have decided to start with the Alpa TC. May move to a Max if I need to do more than an occasional pano and need more than tilt.
    Last edited by docmoore; 5th June 2009 at 19:20.

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    Another view of TC with VC Meter
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    Alpa TC in use with FW 800 - FW 400 cable from FW Hub and battery pack on hip...captures to CF card in back. Laser Disto on belt for closer subjects.


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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    Any thoughts on what is the best technical camera to match up with the Hasselblad CFV back...size and format wise?

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    Gary,

    Don Libby's RS1000 looks like an ideal choice. Another may be the Horseman SWD-II Pro.

    I assume that you will want vertical and horizontal shift to accomodate the square sensor and allow any combination of aspect ratio in your pans.

    I believe that both are available with V back adapters:

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/produc...ro_Camera.html

    http://www.cambo.com/
    http://www.cambo.com/Html/Images/SLW-80s.jpg

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    Gary - take a look at the RS if you get a chance I think you'll like it a lot.

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    Bob, which Hassy back is that on your TC? Is that from a 3-Series system?
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    Gary: i used my CFV with my Horseman SWCII, which is for sale with the 35mm Rodenstock lens. a simple hook up, comes with a blad groundglass viewing screen as well as the optical finder:

    http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showth...light=horseman

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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Bob, which Hassy back is that on your TC? Is that from a 3-Series system?
    Carlos,

    It is an H3D II 39.

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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    Is the main purpose for using one of these cameras with a digital back to more easily stitch together photos (using the horizontal/vertical shift movements of the camera), whether for a panorama or just to get a higher resolution image file? That appeals to me, since I've been doing more horizontal panoramas recently (mostly with my 35mm DSLR) and would like to make the most of my 16mp CFV-II back (by combining both horizontal and vertical shifts).

    The only real concern I have is taking the CFV back on and off the technical camera everytime I need to focus, recompose etc. I remember reading an article on Luminous-Landscape about the use of an Ebony 45SU view camera (which, by chance I also own) with a sliding back adapter which allowed you to focus and compose on the ground glass and then just slide the digital back into place. Is anything like this sliding back available for either the Horseman, Alpa or the Cambo DS/RS? Anyone using anything like this?

    Here's a link to the LL article.

    http://www.luminous-landscape.com/re...al-ebony.shtml

    Finally, is anyone using something like the Linhoff M679CS? I think Marc Williams was using a Rollei technical view camera of some sort with a digital back.

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    Silvestri's Bicam has a sliding back adapter: http://www.silvestricamera.com/eng/p...mphase_eng.htm

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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    Sure this Alpa TC set up is very nice, what's the back behind ?

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    Hi Andrew,

    What are you using to mount the geared head upside down? I understand the Linhoff quickfix on top, but what are you using to mount through the manfrotto plate to the tripod?

    Thanks,
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    Quote Originally Posted by sinwen View Post
    Sure this Alpa TC set up is very nice, what's the back behind ?
    It is an H3D II 39.

    Thanks,

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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    i used the vertical shift for perspective control and for stitching; horizontal for stitching.
    i would put on the ground glass adapter, set focus and the shifts required, then replace the CFV and take the sequence of shots, using the scales to reproduce the shifts i had eyeballed

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    This might be a stupid question but would a technical camera with a digital back only produce color casts when shifting and/or tilting or would it also suffer from this problem when using it without using the movements?
    I ask because I am interested to also eventually use it handheld.
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    Tom,
    It depends on the back and the focal length of the lens.
    A wide angle non-retrofocus lens, which are commonly used on technical cameras, have very acute angles of incidence in the corners since the lens sits so close to the sensor. It is those acute angles that produce lens cast which is further exaggerated with a movement. The longer the lens, the less lens cast is produced.
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    Tom,
    It depends on the back and the focal length of the lens.
    A wide angle non-retrofocus lens, which are commonly used on technical cameras, have very acute angles of incidence in the corners since the lens sits so close to the sensor. It is those acute angles that produce lens cast which is further exaggerated with a movement. The longer the lens, the less lens cast is produced.
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    I was thinking about a 35mm lens with a Sinar54LV back.
    Maybe a 24mm one day as well.

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    I have no experience with the Sinar back, but I expect that it would show some lens cast with a 35mm and that it would be even stronger with a 24mm. With a P45+ I see some lens cast with the 35mm which SOMETIMES can be ignored without movements. With the Capture one software, and I expect that with most others, you can take a set of lens cast corrections at a few of your favorite apertures and shifts and then just apply them later. That way, you can get away without shooting a lens cast reference each time you release the shutter when shooting hand-held. I can usually get away with that when I am not shifting, but when I DO shift, I take a reference shot each time mostly since I can't remember during post exactly what movement I might have been using when the image was shot.
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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

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    Tom,
    It depends on the back and the focal length of the lens.
    A wide angle non-retrofocus lens, which are commonly used on technical cameras, have very acute angles of incidence in the corners since the lens sits so close to the sensor. It is those acute angles that produce lens cast which is further exaggerated with a movement. The longer the lens, the less lens cast is produced.
    -bob
    And also on the design of the lens and whether it is retro-focal or not. I have a 28mm Rodenstock HR (retrofocal) that shows no cast whatever the shift is.

    Some other Rodenstocks are also retrofocal. There is a price obviously ($$$, size and distortion).

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    Quote Originally Posted by bensonga View Post
    Is the main purpose for using one of these cameras with a digital back to more easily stitch together photos (using the horizontal/vertical shift movements of the camera), whether for a panorama or just to get a higher resolution image file? That appeals to me, since I've been doing more horizontal panoramas recently (mostly with my 35mm DSLR) and would like to make the most of my 16mp CFV-II back (by combining both horizontal and vertical shifts).


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    Here is my setup for "one row panoramas" . It can easily be used by any other of my HASSELBLADS . All you need to do is , to find the nodal point and the angle you have to swivel the camera, to get a 25% overlap of the images .

    Attachment 11698

    But I also use my CFV back with my ARCA SWISS 6x9 F-LINE METRIC .
    I am also very worried to put the back off and on again , and therefore I have two ARCA SWISS to HASSELBLAD adapter and the ARCA sliding back .
    Sorry , I have no image of that gear yet . But it works fine .
    The one adapter holds the HASSELBLAD standard screen adapter (3041057) and the RMfx viewer and the other one holds the CFV back .
    Its not very handy for outdoor shooting , ok . But if you have time and a good backpack , and if you are willing to carry all that stuff , then it is no problem at all . This is valid for any other sliding back adapter and camera combination .
    But it is a 100% fine for studio photography .

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    Thank you Bob and Yair for the help.

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    Retro Fun..

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    Retro Fun..[/QUOTE]

    Peter,

    Love the shot...Ries tripods are my favorite. I use a Gitzo but seems like it vibrates like a musical string instrument for the longest time. My Ries damped in a split second.

    The Arca cube looks particularly good atop the Ries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jotloob View Post
    Here is my setup for "one row panoramas" . It can easily be used by any other of my HASSELBLADS . All you need to do is , to find the nodal point and the angle you have to swivel the camera, to get a 25% overlap of the images .

    Attachment 11698

    But I also use my CFV back with my ARCA SWISS 6x9 F-LINE METRIC .
    I am also very worried to put the back off and on again , and therefore I have two ARCA SWISS to HASSELBLAD adapter and the ARCA sliding back .
    Sorry , I have no image of that gear yet . But it works fine .
    The one adapter holds the HASSELBLAD standard screen adapter (3041057) and the RMfx viewer and the other one holds the CFV back .
    Its not very handy for outdoor shooting , ok . But if you have time and a good backpack , and if you are willing to carry all that stuff , then it is no problem at all . This is valid for any other sliding back adapter and camera combination .
    But it is a 100% fine for studio photography .

    Jrgen
    That is a very impressive setup Jurgen! Seeing all these pictures of the Arca Swiss Cube.....I'm going to have to start laying the groundwork with my wife.

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    Jurgen's set up is super cool!

    yes Bob - teh old wooden legs and machined top make a difference AND ..it all ooks so nice -

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    The Arca cube looks particularly good atop the Ries.
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    Agreed! It's a really elegant setup. The image itself is wonderful Peter.

    Differences between the Reis and Berlebach tripods?

    Is that the Alpa SWA?

    Any thoughts Peter, Don or others on differences +/- between the Alpa SWA and the Cambo RS1000?

    Gary

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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    Gary - if I was starting over with the equipment choices available today..the Sinar Artec is a no brainer - you have shift and tilt as well as focusing screen and sliding back..pretty much everything the landscape / architectural shooter wants ..for outdoor as well as studio use - this is the first technical camera I would be confident of using not only wides - but also longer lenses with.

    I am trying to talk myself into buying this set-up and selling 2-3 MF outfits I have been testing over the last year.

    Not familiar with the Berlebach tripods - this Ries above I got courtesy of David K, the Cube was bought purely on speculation that it would deliver a more stable platform ( Jack Flesher's review was invaluable ) - and easier calibrated movements - it does.

    The Alpa has no shift it is the WA version 'only' originally bought for street shooting because of quiet shutter and ability to shoot at very low shutter speeds - bulk helps even with hand held situations!

    The photo was made using a Schneider Xenotar 180/2.8 on Hy6, file processed in eXpose then C1 Pro - then photoshop and a Nix Silverfx layer.

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    ooh ohh I want one..

    you guys realized this is all camera porn..

    Eric

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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    Quote Originally Posted by faneuil View Post
    ooh ohh I want one..

    you guys realized this is all camera porn..

    Eric
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    Re: Show Us Your Technical Camera Setup

    So Peter, did you have another Cube that the Hy6 was on to take this shot? If not why not ? You are the Porn King here.

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