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    CFV-50c !!

    CFV-50c

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    CFV-50c

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    Well, that was unexpected. I thought Hasselblad had lost interest in us V-series owners.

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    Wow! At what price, I wonder?

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    Wow! At what price, I wonder?
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    Re: CFV-50c !!

    Found it here.....

    "The new, state-of-the-art CFV-50c, which will have an €11,000 price tag, boasts the same feature-rich functionality and performance level as the acclaimed H5D-50c camera - providing V System users with a unique opportunity to benefit from latest digital capture technology, including outstanding ISO capability."

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    Did i miss some point or is it not possible to choose live view without tethering the back?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stan ROX View Post
    Time to get a 503 CWD ... !
    Or an RZ67 ProII? Doesn't this V-mount offering undercut the Phase One IQ250, not just on V bodies but also in either V-mount or M-mount on an RZ67? (Bigger crop factor on a 6x7 though, obviously...).

    Excellent news overall - well done Hasselblad (can't recall the last time I ever said that!)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kabraxis View Post
    Did i miss some point or is it not possible to choose live view without tethering the back?
    That's correct as far as I can tell - just as with the 50c on the H5, live view is via tethering only, which is a shame. If you wanted to use this on a tech cam, that's a drawback.

    Still, €11k ~ $15k ... which is about $20k less than the P1's offering for the same sensor, the IQ250. So this is possibly about the most 'sensible' (given that $15k is still a significant chunk of change) introductory price for a new DB ever.

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    P.S. I wonder what P1 will do price-wise? Probably nothing - I can imagine henrik håkonsson is currently sitting at his desk with his eyes shut and his fingers in his ears...
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    'so great and surprising to see that they still update the CFV backs! "It's alive" (I mean Hasselblad ;-)
    Let's hope this 50Mpx CMOS MF sensor is a commercial success for Sony, so they will keep making new (and larger) ones

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    ... and it is possible to select a square format !!!
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    At $15,000.00 it is about double the price it should be. How can Pentax with an entire camera and the same sensor, sell theirs at half the price of the CFV-50CII? As much as I'd like to have this back, I will not be buying one at that price.

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    Re: CFV-50c !!

    WOW! If my car were worth anything, this would be the time to sell it

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    so glad I kept my Hassel 503 kit
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    WoW!
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    Quote Originally Posted by BANKER1 View Post
    At $15,000.00 it is about double the price it should be...
    Couldn't agree more - but in the context of what's gone before, at least this is a step in the right direction.

    Given this DB's price-point, along with that of the 645Z - which seems to be garnering high-praise indeed - the current line-up of other DB offerings look embarrassingly overpriced.

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    Wait... Where is the pity name, like Saturn V, and the wooden handle and bling? You could hardly recognize this as a Hasselblad...

    Of course, the price is out of this world...

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    Re: CFV-50c !!

    Quote Originally Posted by BANKER1 View Post
    At $15,000.00 it is about double the price it should be. How can Pentax with an entire camera and the same sensor, sell theirs at half the price of the CFV-50CII? As much as I'd like to have this back, I will not be buying one at that price.

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    Hasselblad charges $15,000 because they know photographers with 500/200 Series cameras are willing to pay that much. Changing to Pentax would mean a considerable extra cost for new lenses, often at as much as $5,000 each. In addition, to use film with the Pentax, an extra camera body is needed, adding considerable weight and bulk. The Pentax is a great camera, but it is what it is: an integrated DSLR.

    Add to that the fact that the V-mount can be adapted to some other bodies, like the GX680, and an assortment of large format and technical camera systems, and this looks like a rather sweet deal. If I had the money, I would have ordered this right away.

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    Not quite the back I had been dreaming of, but it´s nice to see that Hasselblad has not completely abandoned the V-System!

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    And yes, it can shoot square indeed. But the sensor area will be even smaller than with the old CVFII backs :-(

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    Great news, I am looking forward to playing with one. Well done Hasselblad, fantastic surprise and no leaked rumours.
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    I think it's interesting to note how much cheaper this back is than the H5D-50c. I can't imagine they did much more than rehouse the H5D-50c back here. Granted, the H5D comes with an H5D body, but it's hard to see that body being worth the $12,500 price difference between the CFV-50c and H5D-50c. Looks like a great option for ppl who still want to shoot V-system.

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    I'm in no way expecting them to do it, but what would the chances be of them implementing true live view, i.e. on the back and not tethered, via firmware update? 5%? 50%? If this had on back live view, and it could be proven that it played well with tech camera movements and retrofocus lenses, I'd be ordering tomorrow.

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    Mmm, nice to fit on the swc!
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    Finally , after all the Lunar/Stellar crap a good decision from HASSELBLAD .
    And that CFV-50c ist much cheaper than the IQ250 . Good news .
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    Does the sensor rotate? Or is it just another bad joke from Hasselblad?

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    Of course it doesn't rotate, and nor is it a bad joke. The negativity towards Hasselblad from some people never ceases to amaze me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    Wait... Where is the pity name, like Saturn V, and the wooden handle and bling? You could hardly recognize this as a Hasselblad...

    Of course, the price is out of this world...
    How unpleasant of you. People have been asking for bigger better V compatible backs for a while and you feel the need to abuse Hasselblad for doing this?

    Shame on you.

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    Re: CFV-50c !!

    The most positive side of this is the fact that Hasselblad now shows a willingness to take care of its large customer base, people who have had an enthusiastic relationship with the V Series for years, often for decades. If I can ever afford a back like this myself, I'm not even sure if I would choose the older CFV-50, which has a larger sensor, or this one, but again; this newish attitude from Hasselblad increases the chances that I will actually try saving enough money to buy one of these.

    To those who are disappointed that this is not the new Saturn with wooden handle and rotating 3D sensor: I understand the sarcasms. I should, shouldn't I, with my own posting history? But for this product, Hasselblad deserves respect. Hopefully, they will survive and be a healthy company for many years, supplying professionals and enthusiasts with state-of-the-art photo gear long into the future.
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    Very positive news!

    If Hasselblad can add un-tethered live view they'll take the tech camera market by storm.

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    This sounds great, in my own personal view having used 500 series cameras for many years, live view wouldn't be a big benefit without a tilting screen because it doesn't feel like a camera to bring up to eye level so much, the beauty was having it lower and using the waist level finder, plus with such a huge wonderful viewfinder, I'm not sure how much benefit live view would give, it's not like it's difficult to compose and focus. This would be a great portrait camera for sure in the studio.

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    Apart from the aesthetics (damn that's a really nice-looking back), i actually prefer my current P25+ back more. Furthermore, the 50c is a 1.3 crop sensor, which explains why Hasselblad paired it with a 60mm CF instead of 80mm. And why CF not CFi?

    That said, anybody want to buy a Ex+ condition P25+ from me?

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    Live view would get me going on the swc

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick-T View Post
    How unpleasant of you. People have been asking for bigger better V compatible backs for a while and you feel the need to abuse Hasselblad for doing this?

    Shame on you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    Live view would get me going on the swc
    I was thinking about live view on an Arc Body...
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    decisions... decisions...

    this new CFV or an ELITE?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    Wait... Where is the pity name, like Saturn V, and the wooden handle and bling? You could hardly recognize this as a Hasselblad..
    To be fair, you do what you gotta do to survive. I don't like what HB have done to the brand, but hey, they're still in business.

    It's not like P1 is beneath such gimmicks either:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    I was thinking about live view on an Arc Body...
    Loved my ArcBody.

    That said, the cropped sensor combined with 35mm as the widest lens would be restrictive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by danlindberg View Post
    € 11 000
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    Where did. you find that price ?
    My dealer offers the CFV-50c for 13090 € and takes orders to be delivered in two weeks .
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    Hasselblad lists prices exclusive of VAT.

    11,000 Euro + 20% VAT = 13,200 Euro.

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    Thank you Keith .
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    Re: CFV-50c !!

    Wow.

    Things are really moving in the right direction. My P40+ (V mount) with my 503CW wasn't such a crazy idea after all. I plunked down 10k for my refurb'ed back a year ago. the new CFV-50c is within striking distance of that. That's huge.

    Once one gets over the "crop sensor" issue you'll find out those old Hasselblad bodies rock with a digital back. I am consistently amazed at how well my itty bitty little 39mp crop sensor back does on a V system.

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    Happy happy happy. I love my 503CXi & CFV but damn, I could stretch to one of these as the price drops over time.

    Thank you Hasselblad for some actions from the sane side of the brand
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    Quote Originally Posted by f8orbust View Post
    To be fair, you do what you gotta do to survive. I don't like what HB have done to the brand, but hey, they're still in business.

    It's not like P1 is beneath such gimmicks either:

    Wassat? Did Phase One miss an opportunity to upsell me? Hard to believe!
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    Pardon my ignorance, but can live view be added with just a simple firmware update?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cerett View Post
    Pardon my ignorance, but can live view be added with just a simple firmware update?
    Yes it can

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    "I see dead cameras"

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    $19,000 plus GST in New Zealand.

    If this thing gets a firmware update for on back live view, then I'm pretty much 100% sold, with one caveat: I want use it on my tech camera and be able to employ movements without more image degradation than what I'd expect to see on an CFV-50. If that can be proven – and I know Torger has suggested it can't, but I'd like to see more tests – I'll be doing my bit to save Hasselblad and giving them my money. (Actually, I just ordered a second Flextight scanner for work, so I've done quite a bit for them this week!)

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