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Anyone have a 64GB CF card?
- Thread starter gogopix
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gogopix
Subscriber
I can do that with my kodak brownie
you should SEE the moquitoes around here!
Anyway, I was sorely tempted to NOT upgrade; P45+ not getting the action and on travel using more th M8
BUTTTTT... the new 4 pixel high ISO mode of the P65+ seems to really work yielding great 15MP files (we'll see!)
On file size, I am a bit worried; I have a 2 'quad' process 64bit with 8GB..
on my last C1 session from an 8GB card I "ran out of memory"
dont ask how
so, where are you MP going? sounds like you are on the list for an S2.
regards
Victor
you should SEE the moquitoes around here!
Anyway, I was sorely tempted to NOT upgrade; P45+ not getting the action and on travel using more th M8
BUTTTTT... the new 4 pixel high ISO mode of the P65+ seems to really work yielding great 15MP files (we'll see!)
On file size, I am a bit worried; I have a 2 'quad' process 64bit with 8GB..
on my last C1 session from an 8GB card I "ran out of memory"
dont ask how
so, where are you MP going? sounds like you are on the list for an S2.
regards
Victor
BradleyGibson
New member
Not sure if the title was rhetorical or not, but http://www.ptiglobalusa.com/pr64gbcfca23.html.
Never done business with them, so be sure to check them out before handing over your cc#!
-Brad
Never done business with them, so be sure to check them out before handing over your cc#!
-Brad
Very interested in seeing your take on the 60 meg monster. The Hassey version is due this year, and I'd like to see how much you really gain. Did you have a P45+ prior to the 60 Victor?
64 gig CF card ... Holy Moly! Wasn't that long ago a 1 gig Microdrive was $500. and you had to handle it with a pillow under your hands.
64 gig CF card ... Holy Moly! Wasn't that long ago a 1 gig Microdrive was $500. and you had to handle it with a pillow under your hands.
Steve Hendrix
Well-known member
To me, the 21.5MP - 38.5MP of extra resolution is only part of the reason for considering a P65+. This is a completely unique product with regard to medium format digital backs. Phase One has collaborated with Dalsa on creating an upgradeable, programmable sensor. This does two things:
*allows for some unique functionality.
*produces a much longer term investment, as your existing product can gain enhanced functionality via firmware upgrades.
We call this Sensor +.
If you think of recent generations of Phase One DB's, take the 22MP sensor for example. The H25, P25, and P25+ all use the same sensor. Yet they are 3 separate products, with different capabilities, different costs of upgrade, etc. And yet for many, more resolution and sensor size is needed/desired than 22MP/49mm x 37mm. The P65+ delivers that with 60.5MP/54mm x 40mm (effective full frame 645). Those who will need/desire more than that are few, so that part of the equation will be largely satisfied.
It's the additional upgradeable features that are the real key to this product as an investment. The ability to double the shooting speed with a firmware update, to reduce the resolution and increase the ISO performance with a firmware update, etc. Traditionally, upgrades like these meant you were buying a new back.
This is what sets the P65+ apart. It's a product that fulfills resolution and lens coverage desires, but provides an excellent value against "upgrade cost syndrome".
FYI - the unit at MOAB does not have Sensor + installed, so the high ISO, and reduced size will not be shown from that trip. Sensor + is supposed to ship with units that begin shipment in late February. Anyone receiving their unit beforehand will receive that update free, of course.
There's been so much emphasis on the megapixel rating of this product, but it's a class-leading product in almost all facets and has the extra flexibility of feature enhancement through future upgrades via Sensor +.
For now -
*60.5 or 15 Megapixels
*ISO 50 - 1600
*60 frames per minute
*Resistant to color shifts with technical cameras
*Effective Full Frame 645 - the first!
This is just a starting point. With Sensor +, enhancements will be added via firmware, making this a better investment long term than a product without Sensor + technology.
Steve Hendrix
Phase One
gogopix
Subscriber
Well Iam in the middle of a two day meeting and barely had a chance to "thaw" the FEDEX box (25 degrees F) to make sure no issues
Got a few frames off the P45+ and P65+
Now 50% more pixels is just 25% or less linear detail improvement, so can't get THAT excited about it.
I like the new philosophy as stated above, and think long term this is a bit better than the 25>45>45+ that I did.
Right now here's what it does
45+ full and crop
65+ full and crop
Victor
Got a few frames off the P45+ and P65+
Now 50% more pixels is just 25% or less linear detail improvement, so can't get THAT excited about it.
I like the new philosophy as stated above, and think long term this is a bit better than the 25>45>45+ that I did.
Right now here's what it does
45+ full and crop
65+ full and crop
Victor
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BradleyGibson
New member
Congratulations, Victor. And thanks for sharing a couple of test shots!
Much appreciated,
Brad
Much appreciated,
Brad
gogopix
Subscriber
well, unlike some sites, here the images are scrunched to the same size.
in "actual pixels' view there is a LOT more detail in the P65+ crop (it is actually bigger when viewed in any viewer at 100%
how can people see that?
victor
PS this is pretty useless for evaluating
if anyone wants the raw or 'develop' files i woiuld be happy to 'yousendit' to them
Again the change in resolution I think a small part of the 45 to 65 upgrade.
post or PM me an email and I will send the monster files
in "actual pixels' view there is a LOT more detail in the P65+ crop (it is actually bigger when viewed in any viewer at 100%
how can people see that?
victor
PS this is pretty useless for evaluating
if anyone wants the raw or 'develop' files i woiuld be happy to 'yousendit' to them
Again the change in resolution I think a small part of the 45 to 65 upgrade.
post or PM me an email and I will send the monster files
gogopix
Subscriber
I have a few interested and will post tomorrow. in the meantime you can see the full glory, but jpgs at my site
pix4.vicgogolak.com
it is coppermine, and if you click on an image you get the full monty! (that is, 39 and 60 MP resp exept for the PS crops and reductions. These SHOULD be obvious! LOL
Victor
PS some are 45 some 65 some are Contax 35mm some 80 mm
and a few with alpa and schneider 35mm
you can figure it out!
pix4.vicgogolak.com
it is coppermine, and if you click on an image you get the full monty! (that is, 39 and 60 MP resp exept for the PS crops and reductions. These SHOULD be obvious! LOL
Victor
PS some are 45 some 65 some are Contax 35mm some 80 mm
and a few with alpa and schneider 35mm
you can figure it out!
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gogopix
Subscriber
No choice; committed months ago.
NOW, the P45+, it looks pretty damn good, no?
and I still want to see if the 65 in 15MP is better than the 30
but, don't need sharpening tools anymore!
(I put that $29.95 towards the new P65+
Guy Mancuso
Administrator, Instructor
Thanks Steve yes we have a pre-production unit here in Moab and actually a different one than Jack and I tested in Yosemite. I personally have not shot much with it yet but a quick test with it and the P25plus . Just going by the color alone it has much improved since the last time. This is a sweetie of a back and the sensor + technology actually solves a big issue for me a high ISO and lower res file would be very handy with event work and such. So for me looking at the brighter side of this it would actually take away my need for a high ISO DSLR. Right now today i am shooting the P25 Plus but I am pushing it's limits sometimes on the high ISO stuff . So the reality is it would actually save me money and solve a issue I have today. Obviously my jump up is costly but to get a full Nikon D3 and several lenses is also. So yes from a Pro point of view there is some real ROI here. I like to see Phase actually continue with this with there whole line.
gogopix
Subscriber
Here is the YOUSENDIT link
there are two raw files, zipped, oe p45+ one P65+
The files are really easy to use, nmow that I figured out C1 v4
https://www.yousendit.com/download/WnBRbGtIcVg1UjUzZUE9PQ
I will post some others, but gotta get back to making the dough for this stuff.
Victor
PS: There are a bunch more pix at
pix4.vicgogolak.com
but they are jpgs. However, not bad and they have ALL the pixels.
there are two raw files, zipped, oe p45+ one P65+
The files are really easy to use, nmow that I figured out C1 v4
https://www.yousendit.com/download/WnBRbGtIcVg1UjUzZUE9PQ
I will post some others, but gotta get back to making the dough for this stuff.
Victor
PS: There are a bunch more pix at
pix4.vicgogolak.com
but they are jpgs. However, not bad and they have ALL the pixels.
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stephengilbert
Active member
"So the reality is it would actually save me money ..." Guy Mancuso, January, 2009.
Uh, oh. That slope looks slippery.
Uh, oh. That slope looks slippery.
gogopix
Subscriber
well, maybe mine is 'preproduction too
came with only one of three cables, no user manual
and a note that says
:Live preview and sensor+" don't work yet on your back"
Not exactly the best PR. I was told this back would come in March and was happy to wait. They shouldn't send $40K items out that are not ready
I am sure Dave at CI is not happy to hear this, (though I am sure he has little control over what P1 sends) and yes, I do believe all will be taken care of but.....
...don't get me wrong; this back is amazing, but I actually bought more for sensor+ than the extra MPixels...sooo..
Victor
PS serial number is EK210000
not even a ONE at the end!
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