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    Are there still pros shooting MF FILM?

    I know the MF film is not as good as MFDB or even dSLR (may be with the exception of the Mamiya 7), but just out of curiosity, have all working pros like Ann Leibovitz etc. move to dSLR or A7 or whatever or are there working pros who still shoot 6x7, 6x6 film?

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    Re: Are there still pros shooting MF FILM?

    I think John Sexton and Michael Kenna still use film.

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    I know of a couple of people still shooting RZ67 and a few portrait shooters using Hasselblads and Pentax 6(x)7s, but the number is tumbling. I think a lot of people still use it now and again, for particular shots, but have digital as their main workflow. The problem with big commercial shoots is that clients expect digital nowadays and like to know they get what they wanted during the shoot, so you probably can't use it for every assignment anymore.
    I shoot it for 6x17, like you, but not in 6x6 or 6x7.
    I know the shooting team from silverfineart.com still shoot Hasselblads, I believe, and maybe Charlie Waite still does?
    For most applications it is probably still plenty of quality, especially with modern film.

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    Yes, I know Michael Kenna still does, and for sure if John Sexton is shooting MF, he would be shooting film :-) Thanks

    I took my SWC as a "backup" for my 4x5 today and it works out really well. Normally I take my M9 but thought I would go "full film" just for the heck. I am not a (money-making) pro so the slower pace works fine. Actually, it's sort of satisfying to hear that clunk from the SWC :-)

    I took a few shots with the 4x5 and the SWC, will do a head-to-head test..

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    Re: Are there still pros shooting MF FILM?

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    There are many, but those who are good don't talk about it much, they're out there taking photos. There are some wedding photographers using film as well.

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    I'm preparing to do some of my industrial photography on film. The GX680 is very suitable for that. Most quality T/S lenses for any camera costs more or less as much as what I paid for my entire GX680 setup (2 bodies, 5 lenses, 4 viewfinders and a pile of other stuff, mostly in mint condition). When it comes to resolution... 6 x 8 scanned at 3,000ppi equals around 60 megapixels. I don't need more than that
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    Re: Are there still pros shooting MF FILM?

    MF film has a unique look, and can have unique formats. There are also more camera types and the entry fee is lower.

    I am unsure why you don't think MF film is not as "good" as a DSLR or MFD.
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    Quote Originally Posted by richardman View Post
    Yes, I know Michael Kenna still does, and for sure if John Sexton is shooting MF, he would be shooting film :-) Thanks
    As a subscriber to newsletter, I recall John Sexton regularly referring to his priceless Hassleblads (see alsoadvert). I also recall him using a Rollei SL66 e.g. Rice Fields, Dusk

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    Ming Thein also has a thing for film

    I'm sure there are more.

    Good reason to go out and shoot some FP4 or Tmax as well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by richardman View Post
    I know the MF film is not as good as MFDB or even dSLR (may be with the exception of the Mamiya 7), but just out of curiosity, have all working pros like Ann Leibovitz etc. move to dSLR or A7 or whatever or are there working pros who still shoot 6x7, 6x6 film?
    I do not know any professionals (meaning that do commercial, sports/events, advertising, architectural, product, wedding / portrait work regularly as their main income to make a living) that use film as part of their main workflow.

    Very very few use film occasionally for landscape fine art and other low volume fine art work.

    All TV/WEB Commercial motion work I know of use digital cinema cameras, mostly RED's and ARRi Alexas. Most Motion Pictures (short and long form) use those cameras as well.

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    Martin Schoeller shoots with only film as of last I have seen. MF & LF.

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    I saw some of Christopher Burkett's photographs at the West gallery last weekend. Awesome stuff. He only uses film and does optical printing. He uses MF and LF.

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    Those still shooting films are probably using larger formats than MF nowadays (film shines in 8x10 IMHO). But most of them are "contemporary photography artists" (≠ fine art), mostly in the landscape area, so I'm not sure it's the kind of pros you were referring to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
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    I am unsure why you don't think MF film is not as "good" as a DSLR or MFD.
    Shashin, it was meant to forestall any debate about "IQ260 is so much better" etc. type of replies. I have stacks of film boxes and film spools, even though I have the M9. That should say something about my bias.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jph View Post
    I saw some of Christopher Burkett's photographs at the West gallery last weekend. Awesome stuff. He only uses film and does optical printing. He uses MF and LF.
    jph, I was at the Photography West yesterday and the Burnkett's stuff is quite nice, although I am sure the large prints are from his ULF.

    We also saw many Burnkett prints at the Stanford University hospital. The Bing family donated A LOT of his work plus of course (partially?) funded the new Bing Concert Hall.

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    Richard,

    I still have and continue to use my SWC and 500CM with 120 film. There is nothing that replaces the look these cameras produce on film. I don't shoot with them all that often, sadly; I'm too busy with other things most of the time. But I won't sell them off again like I did in 2004-2005.

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    Re: Are there still pros shooting MF FILM?

    Quote Originally Posted by Frederic View Post
    Those still shooting films are probably using larger formats than MF nowadays (film shines in 8x10 IMHO). But most of them are "contemporary photography artists" (≠ fine art), mostly in the landscape area, so I'm not sure it's the kind of pros you were referring to.
    Not all. This guy uses an F6 for much of his work, including reportage:

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    I know some of the wedding photographers use 35mm as well. Can't remember who though.

    Film might be dead, but it's still being developed, in both senses of the word. I just picked up three rolls at the lab yesterday

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
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    Looks nice on my monitor, and I can imagine how gorgeous it would be... printed on Agfa Brovira, or Ilford Gallerie... or (gasp!) Kodak Portriga. Sigh. There was a lot to like about those days.

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    I still have a Heidelberg drum scanner, and though its not 40-50/day like in the old days (80's-90's), there are still about 40-100/month of various trannies and negs coming in, and its starting to increase.
    One pro friend of mine (shoots boats and stuff at sea) put it this way: "When you really think about it, film was a hell of a deal, you know. It goes almost anywhere, no batteries or electrical requirements, no filling my addled brain with computer tech talk like firmware updates and connection cabling, resolution equivalent to high end digital (when drum scanned of course ) cheap and available gear and lenses, I get to concentrate on the image...etc. Then there is that certain sense of tactile quality you get by handling, developing, printing...etc)

    Anyway, its a good question and although I make fun of my film clients (I call them "hipsters") they have a point!
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    Quote Originally Posted by schuster View Post
    Looks nice on my monitor, and I can imagine how gorgeous it would be... printed on Agfa Brovira, or Ilford Gallerie... or (gasp!) Kodak Portriga. Sigh. There was a lot to like about those days.
    thanks!

    I'm a better digital printer than I ever was as a darkroom printer. This particular photo prints beautifully on Epson Exhibition Fiber paper, which has a lot of the same look as what I remember as Agfa Brovira.

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    Re: Are there still pros shooting MF FILM?

    YES! me.

    Lots of people. Look at the doc's about Tim Hetherington, you see him in the field with a Hasselblad and a Rollei.

    Schoeller, I think still does altho his last show that went up last week in NYC I went to and it looked to me about half and half.

    Class Bird, Ryan Pfluger, Jake Stangel, maybe Brigitte Lacombe, google some of these and you'll see their work.

    I went back to film for personal work, and also for client work where there is time and when I actually care- RZ and Mamiya 7. But I don't shoot a ton on a job, for others the workflow is not there.

    I like the color, the depth, I like the cameras more than dslr's. I like the format shape more than 35mm. Once upon a time you chose a camera and a format because it was part of the expression. Now we just crop and filter as if it was the same but it is not. Its the instagrammization of photography....
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertwright View Post
    YES! me.

    I went back to film for personal work, and also for client work where there is time and when I actually care
    That's a great point that I don't think most are willing to publicly admit. Digital is usually the fastest way to getting the job done & getting the check from the client. But when you care you are willing to put in the effort to get it the way you want.

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    There're lots of pros using MF film for wedding, with the more well-known are Jose Villa, Jonathan Canlas, Elizabeth Messina, Tanja Lippert, Ryan Muirhead, the Wright Brothers... Just check on the site/blog of the film labs (RPL, Indie) or Style Me Pretty: The Ultimate Wedding Blog

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    Quote Originally Posted by robertwright View Post
    ... Once upon a time you chose a camera and a format because it was part of the expression. ....
    Yes.
    I choose my film and digital cameras the same way. :-)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Yes.
    I choose my film and digital cameras the same way. :-)

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    I see the choice in digital to be reduced- in terms of what is affordable, the there is only 2x3 aspect in full frame and if you want 4x3 aspect then its some mirrorless thing i have no interest in.

    In medium format same thing, 2x3, 4x3, and not affordable....

    So, 1x1, 4x5/6x7, 6x17 etc...all of that lovely stuff is consigned to the waste bin of history. Except if you like film, so I'm happy.

    please no one say crop or I'll have your head

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    i love to use film because it has this slow down effect which i like. i had my landscape exhibition on monday. funny, but all of the visitors like mf 6x6 400tx pictures best.

    100% says: analog looks better....
    (one lady also saw angles in my pictures ����... okay, forget it ��)

    maybe this is true or not..... i don't know which looks better , which has more spirit...

    finally i like the prozess of photographing more than the final result. maybe thats why i like analog.

    but in most commercial buisiness you are not competitive with analog. maybe in architecture and wedding....

    there is a brand new video with michael kenna on youtube. he speaks also a little bit of his early commercial works with film


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    No degeneration in to film vs. digital please :-) If I have $60,000 to throw around, I would buy an S 007 with 3 lens immediately. Barring that, as long as I can haul 20lbs of 4x5 gear AND a SWC/M :-) Life is good.

    // richard "the Leica M9? That's for my snapshots" man

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    Well, I just got back from Paris Photo, and I assure you that at least for the gallery and art book market, film is very much alive. What is different, however, is that digital is also wholly accepted. Digital prints are being sold for thousands, and projects shot on digital are not viewed skeptically.
    It's a great time now, as you can photograph with whatever medium you want, and generally no one will bother you about it. The digital vs film debate is now very much an aesthetic one, not a technical one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by robertwright View Post
    I see the choice in digital to be reduced- in terms of what is affordable, the there is only 2x3 aspect in full frame and if you want 4x3 aspect then its some mirrorless thing i have no interest in.

    In medium format same thing, 2x3, 4x3, and not affordable....

    So, 1x1, 4x5/6x7, 6x17 etc...all of that lovely stuff is consigned to the waste bin of history. Except if you like film, so I'm happy.

    please no one say crop or I'll have your head
    Well, I most often have my E-M1 set to capture in 1:1 format... It's not cropping if it's the format I see through the viewfinder and I'm framing for it. Same for 16:9. ;-)

    No, you're not going to get the larger format sensors without spending a bunch of money. And you're not going to get 6x6 or 6x7, etc, even then. But that wasn't what I meant.

    The format choices in digital cameras are just as broad but the format sizes are all smaller. Where the differences lie beyond that are in the strength of AA filters, the pixel density, sensitivity, and noise characteristics of the sensors, and the lenses available to use.

    My digital cameras at present are iPhone 4S, Olympus E-1, E-M1, E-PL1; Leica M9, X2, X; Ricoh GXR+M, A12-28, A12-50; and Sony A7. My lens kits are FT SLR, mFT, Leica M-mount, Leica R-Mount, Skink pinholes, Holga toy, and Nikon SLR. That's a pretty broad range of different formats, sensors, and lenses to work with. Each combination produces different results. I even have true oddities like the Hasselnuts back for the 500CM, which nets Hasselblad imaging into the iPhone 4S camera. I don't see too much reduction there.

    And when I want to go even further, I take some film out of the fridge and shoot Polaroid, 35mm, Minox, and 6x6. I don't really need much more, it's all good. :-)

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    I use film quite a bit. I prefer it to digital for outdoor portraits, but a lot of the time digital is simply faster. One isn't better then the other, more of a taste thing =)

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    I think Paul Ozzello still shoots film with his SWC/M


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