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    Talking H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    After some weeks from Photokina as promised the new firmware are arrived !!

    Firmware version 3.5.8R for H5D-50c and CFV-50c

    • Live View on rear camera display
    • Longer exposure times. Now up to 34 minutes (no black exposure required)
    • Faster capture rate. Now up to 50 frames per minute (H5D-50c only)
    • ISO and White Balance setting visible in Viewfinder (H5D-50c only)
    • Spirit Level (H5D-50c only) and selectable display modes in tethered mode
    • Korean language added
    • Bug fixes

    Firmware version 3.3.2/1.1.4 for H5D-50c camera body

    • Support for ISO/WB setting in viewfinder
    • Film magazine compatibility
    • Minor bug fixes


    Some one have done jet the upgrade ?
    I will do as soon as possible, maybe this weekend !!
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    I can't wait....

    I made the update immediately !!

    the upgrade run silk... the camera now support all the above functions... for now I've tested the live view... finally on a tripod I can confirm that the frame rate and color is better than the one I've see in Photokina ... the frame rate is now very high I think more than 20 fps (maybe 30) so focusing in live view at 100% is very easy.

    Well Done Hasselblad !
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    Smile Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    Here's a little video to show how it's the H Live view released today...

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nK5nR636pKc

    It's very poor and made without a tripod.... just for test..

    Best regards, Domenico.
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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    Nice one Hasselblad indeed !

    Thanks for the video Domenico.

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    Thats looks very impressive and excellent refresh rate for live focusing.

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    Looks great - excellent to see Hasselblad back on form!

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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    Great stuff. Hopefully we get some momentum and competition going in the MF world again. Would be great to see someone like Sony get into this space to really shake things up.

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    Didn't realize, but HB even has the CMOS sensor available in a 200MP multi-shot back. Allied with their great camera and lens line up, you can only hope for good things going forward for this venerable brand.
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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    I'm sure someone will chime in soon and change the subject to Phase / Leaf, Capture One 8 and USB3. In the meantime, I'm enjoying reading positive news and improvements to what were already excellent products.
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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    Ok...... I'll just change the subject to the chip itself. For anyone who hasn't experienced the fascinating live view and files from this chip I encourage you to get 'ANY' of the available backs. I own the Leaf (there, I did it) but all of them will give you an experience that is a monster/fascinating/delightful step forward. If I didn't own the Leaf and thought there was one of the HB's available in Japan I would hop on a plane and get it. It's that good.....

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    One thing I've never asked about any iteration that uses this sensor is how it handles tilts, as opposed to, or in addition to, shifts. I've been trying to get my head around how it would perform with positive tilts to maximise depth of field in landscapes when I also want to employ rise or fall on the back.

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    PS: I'm still very much torn between the 50c and 50 backs. The live view would make my life a ton easier and the workflow quicker. 12mm of shift on the 50c would be more than adequate for the vast majority of my work, but I worry that I would be pushing up against its limits too often and therefore sacrificing colour depth, etc. The CCD version seems very, very attractive in this regard, all be it without live view and high ISO capability.

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    Hi TJV,

    Well, 50c vs 50 also to me was a very hard dispute, both camera have good points and feature, at the end I choose to go trough 50c because i think is a leap forward in image quality at high iso and more feature rich for landscape etc..
    the sensor is little smaller just few mm than the CCD version, but now it's possible to use also film backs so if I need a larger view I can put a film back with a color diapositive or negative or bw ....



    today I have tried it and the camera recognize the back and is operative too.
    with film back I'm sure I can make my photo with a real film look !!!!

    Buying the 50, to me is very difficult to realize now, especially because the price of the ccd is starting to drop, and maybe in the near future is possible to find more of them used at very low prices.... the cmos to me is really a revolution in this field and photos that before were impossible now are reality...

    Regards, Domenico.

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    Yes, I think the introduction of CMOS is a massive step forward in most regards. I guess I'm in the minority of users who want to attach it to a tech camera though. At the moment I shoot film with my Techno and scan using an Imacon 949, so I'm not used to thinking about sensor limitations with movements, just image circle limitations.

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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    Well, the CMOS has also the micro lenses that someone says can cause color fringe if used with large shift or some wide angle lens...
    If Your work is 90% on tech cam with extreme shift or WA, I think the a 50 / 60 CCD or the 39 II are good choices (the 39 very cheap in comparison to the rest...) ,but if the work is almost center without extreme shifts etc, the live view and performance at high iso are winning.
    If You live in Europe there are some body used in Photokina sell as DEMO unit that are around 9000€ less the new price and very "attractive"...

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    One thing I've never asked about any iteration that uses this sensor is how it handles tilts, as opposed to, or in addition to, shifts. I've been trying to get my head around how it would perform with positive tilts to maximise depth of field in landscapes when I also want to employ rise or fall on the back.
    I have used tilt/swing on three of my lenses without issues (60mm, 100mm, 150mm). This is the most exciting aspect of this chip. Try using one of the IQ series backs when tilting..... a real PITA! With this chip I can tilt in real time with perfect results in about 30 seconds. For that reason alone its worth owning one of these backs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vjbelle View Post
    I have used tilt/swing on three of my lenses without issues (60mm, 100mm, 150mm). This is the most exciting aspect of this chip. Try using one of the IQ series backs when tilting..... a real PITA! With this chip I can tilt in real time with perfect results in about 30 seconds. For that reason alone its worth owning one of these backs.

    Victor
    Thanks. I'm looking forward to someone doing some tests to see the limits of tilts with shift movements and if using them in combination magnifies the colour cast or if it's much the same as without using tilt and just shifts.
    As I'm used to using a GG for focusing, tilts have never been too problematic for me but good quality Live View would make it even easier. Most of all, I want to do away with the need for that massive Linhof sliding back. The new short stitch slider would be just the ticket for me and with it the Techno really does come into its own, I think.

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    Well, I've the HTS 1,5 when i have some spare time (maybe next week) I can make some shots with shifted lens, 28mm and 50mm that are my favorite with the HTS....

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    Quote Originally Posted by modator View Post
    • Live View on rear camera display
    • Longer exposure times. Now up to 34 minutes (no black exposure required)
    Two great breakthroughs. Well done Hasselblad!

    Now all we need is a CF50c version of the back, enabling the use of iAdapters to other marques of camera body.

    My feeling is that the previous CF22 and CF39 backs suffered in comparison to the Phase P25+ and P45+ equivalents by not permitting exposures beyond 32 seconds, but that dissuading factor won't arise anymore.

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    A CF-50c would be amazing, but I very much doubt it will happen.

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    New Hasselblad CFV 50c 50 Megapixel Digital Back Fit 503CW 203FE 501cm 500C M | eBay

    Just saw this on the bay. Wonder if they actually have stock? I see they are shipping from Tokyo, which seems a bit odd. A massive markup for them, I'm sure!

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    In high demand, so I guess they can charge what they feel they can get. As a business, it's a nice problem to have.

    Last one sold on eBay went for $11.5k, so they're not far off the mark; if you offered that you'd probably get it.

    Best deal is to buy in Japan - if you can find one to buy, that is.

    I wonder if this is going to be the best selling MFDB ever?
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    Maybe, if only they could introduce it with a iAdaptor mount, eh? Then it'd really fly out the door.

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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    If someone is waiting around for a 10 grand back then I think they're in for a long wait. As F8 says..... this is in high demand. The price seems pretty reasonable to me.... if you want one then here it is....

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    Hey Guys,

    I purchased a CFV 50c from eBay. I did not pay the asking price and it was a little more than the first back we saw selling from Russia (?), but a lot less than B&H's price. I will post back after I receive it and test it.

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    Woah! Well done! I really, really, really want to press buy now, but with Christmas coming and a young family, I thought I'd better wait it out until the next tax year. Really looking forward to hearing from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    Woah! Well done! I really, really, really want to press buy now, but with Christmas coming and a young family, I thought I'd better wait it out until the next tax year. Really looking forward to hearing from you.
    Yes it was hard to stare at that button over a few days while I contemplated the purchase. The back has been shipped from Japan and is suppose to be here by 12/12. I will make time to test it as soon as I can and post some results.

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    Darr, don't leave us hanging! Love to hear what the new back is like!
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    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    Yes it was hard to stare at that button over a few days while I contemplated the purchase. ....
    I've often wondered what it would be like if we had a "Buy it Now" button at the GetDPI buy/sell section. But in retrospect think it would be a dangerous proposition, especially for Guy Mancuso. We could call it the "Guy it Now" button.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    Darr, don't leave us hanging! Love to hear what the new back is like!
    Delayed delivery, but at least its in town!
    I will be away from home tomorrow, but my son is visiting for the holidays so he can accept delivery. I promise to post as soon as I can.

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    Darr,
    me too, I'm very interested to know what you think about the new CVF50c, and to see some photos too !!

    Well, it's time to say Happy Christmas to all !

    Domenico.
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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    Darr

    Although the CFV-50c is no option for me (sensor size) I am looking forward to hear and see about your first experience and first images .
    Regards . Jόrgen .
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    Re: H5D-50c Live view firmware is available !!

    I do have the beautiful CFV50c in my possession, but have only had a quick studio shoot to test it out. INCREDIBLE Live View -- goodbye ground-glass focusing! Give me another 24-48 hours before I can get out to really give it a workout. I will post my results in a new thread as soon as I can.

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    Quote Originally Posted by darr View Post
    I do have the beautiful CFV50c in my possession, but have only had a quick studio shoot to test it out. INCREDIBLE Live View -- goodbye ground-glass focusing! Give me another 24-48 hours before I can get out to really give it a workout. I will post my results in a new thread as soon as I can.

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    You really should put it back in its packaging right now and keep it in a cupboard until the morning of December 25th (or the evening of December 24th in places like Denmark)...

    ...Yeah, right!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ondebanks View Post
    You really should put it back in its packaging right now and keep it in a cupboard until the morning of December 25th (or the evening of December 24th in places like Denmark)...

    ...Yeah, right!

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    Really looking forward to hearing more!
    Great that the live view is so good. I'd love to out the CFV-50c on my Techno with the new short stitching slide.

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    PS: Post some pics of the back on your camera in the Show us you tech camera thread. Love to see it on your setup.

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    NP-Web ƒnƒbƒZƒ‹ƒuƒ‰ƒbƒhƒfƒWƒ^ƒ‹ƒJƒƒ‰ƒoƒbƒN Haselblad CFV-50c
    Just as well you got in when you did, Darr...
    I'm really gutted, as I am set to buy early next year. Perhaps not anymore...
    PS: Love to hear your experiences / thoughts so far.

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    So, if Google translate has got this right, the price is going to rise from 1,077,840 Yen / US$9k (including sales tax) to 1,706,400 Yen / US$15k (including sales tax).

    I know the Yen hasn't performed that great of late, but a 58% increase - wow. That said, against the Euro, the Yen has only lost 2.78% in value since January. Against the US$ it's lost 12.78% (source: ft.com).

    Curious that the price increase brings the back almost exactly in line with what it's being sold for in the US and UK (ex. VAT) ... could the exorbitant price hike have more to do with HB retailers outside of Japan complaining about the low price in Japan, than it has to do with the performance of the Yen against the Euro ?

    If this is all true - what a shame - hoped that the era of insane ('reassuringly expensive') pricing was coming to an end...

    Still, chin up - even at $15k it's a 'bargain' compared to the IQ150.

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    for once, it looks like being an early adopter has paid off! saving some $3,500
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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    NP-Web ƒnƒbƒZƒ‹ƒuƒ‰ƒbƒhƒfƒWƒ^ƒ‹ƒJƒƒ‰ƒoƒbƒN Haselblad CFV-50c
    Just as well you got in when you did, Darr...
    I'm really gutted, as I am set to buy early next year. Perhaps not anymore...
    PS: Love to hear your experiences / thoughts so far.
    I was torn between buying now or wait till after the first of the year. In the end, I was afraid inventory would be depleted and/or the price would go up, so I took a gamble. I have been waiting to upgrade from the P45, but it had to be a major upgrade with Live View. The CFV50c answers my need, thankfully. Sorry to hear about the possible price increase. If you can buy from the seller I purchased from, I would recommend them. I had no hassles whatsoever and the back arrived new with a battery.

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    The ebay listing for this back still shows 2 available for the asking price of $13500.00. Is that the vendor you dealt with? My experiences with my Leaf back are similar to yours. The chip is very easy to work with and produces a wonderful file. Printed crops from this back and my Phase 80mp back at the 40 inch print level are indistinguishable. Great that you have had a good experience dealing with a vendor all the way from Japan.


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    Quote Originally Posted by vjbelle View Post
    The ebay listing for this back still shows 2 available for the asking price of $13500.00. Is that the vendor you dealt with? My experiences with my Leaf back are similar to yours. The chip is very easy to work with and produces a wonderful file. Printed crops from this back and my Phase 80mp back at the 40 inch print level are indistinguishable. Great that you have had a good experience dealing with a vendor all the way from Japan.


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    Yes Victor, it was breguetcamera that sold me the CFV50c. As I said previously, I would not hesitate to purchase from them again, as the transaction went smoothly and the seller answered my questions before the sale promptly. The back arrived in new condition and was packaged well. Once the packaged arrived in NY, it went International Priority Mail to my door. Glad to know your Leaf back work so well for you.

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