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    B&H sells the cube for $ 2,399.95. Comon, you gonna tell me it's worth that?

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    The worth of a tool is completely up to the individual. I feel the Cube was worth what I paid for it.

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    $2,400? Wow, I didn't realize a Cube was that expensive.

    I'll have to be satisfied with the Gitzo leveling base I bought from Jack recently with my G2270 pan tilt head perched on top.....at least until the economy and stock market recovers. What's that, 5 years? Maybe longer.....

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    B&H sells the cube for $ 2,399.95. Comon, you gonna tell me it's worth that?
    Every little penny. But then I like tools that make my life more convenient and efficient and don't mind paying for that convenience. I respect however, that you and others may not find those same conveniences worthwhile. But I will add, don't knock it until you've actually used it!

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    I'm not knocking the Cube, just the price.

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    Yep... Now that is cleared up, I suggest you actually try it
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    some from the Aptus 75s and Horseman SWD












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    Jack,

    I have heard that these QR clamps work pretty well. I will be ordering some myself soon.

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Hi Chris:

    I like the Wimberley plates for lenses, but in general I am not a fan of the type of camera base that uses a rubber pad for anti-twist as a permanent or dedicated solution. In my experience, they always feel spongy and never locked down tight, hence I prefer Kirk or RRs camera plates. That said, the Wimberley camera plates are universal and can be mounted to a variety of cameras, and a salesman or workshop leader might be well advised to always have a few on hand -- wink wink

    However, the Wimberley lens plates use screws as posts at either end to prevent twisting on the lens foot and work quite well -- I have several of them...



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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    John,

    The Cube's clamp is adjustable for width -- that's the silver knob insde the jaws. However, I *hate* the Arca QR clamp even more than the RRS QR clamp, so I replaced it with a basic RRS screw-tighten clamp . Positive locking and easier to work with gloves on too.

    Cheers,
    I also switched to the screw clamp after accidentally knocking my QR clamp loose in the parking lot at Arches a few years ago. The 1DsMkII landed directly on the top of the prism. Thankfully Canon did the repair for $350 so while expensive not nearly so bad as I feared.

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    Jim,
    What lenses are you using with your swd?
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Finally getting around to processing some of the pano captures I took on our Moab trip in Autopano Pro. The more I use this program, the more I like it. Here is one from Canyon De Chelley early AM. This was 4 frames captured with the 35 AF lens on my Mamiya/Phase outfit in horizontal orientation, all raws processed in C1 *with* 35 AF lens corrections applied, output to 8-bit tiffs. Then assembled in APP, then final tweaks in CS4. Original is about 18k pixels wide total -- I may just have to print this one -- tough to see but there are horses visible near the river on the RH upper arm (look like a white and black dot in this 2400 pixel jpeg), and I of course will crop or edit the sign at the LH side . Click on the 1200 pixel version below for a 2400 pixel version. Hope you enjoy it:



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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Jack,
    My 30 inch monitor is not big enough LOL

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    Jack, If that's intended to be an endorsement of the Cube, you've succeeded wildly. Or if it's not you've still succeeded wildly.

    This is one spectacular image !

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    Bob, I will edit to post a 1200 pix version linked to the 2400 version.
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    Jack, If that's intended to be an endorsement of the Cube, you've succeeded wildly. Or if it's not you've still succeeded wildly.

    This is one spectacular image !
    Thank you for the kind words. Yes, the captures were done on the Cube with a simple RRS sliding rail to adjust nodal point.

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    Wilson Mesa Pano

    P1 645, 55-110mm, P30+, 31,000+ pixels wide, CS4 stitched.

    Mesa below Mt Wilson, Western CO.



    Here is a 1/4 downsize of original

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    Few more P30+ panos:

    dual 3 shot HDR images stitched after tone mapping in Photomatix:



    Sneffel's Range (6 shot):



    Escalante (5 shot stitch):


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    Great work Ed!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Creek View Post
    Great work Ed!

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    Ditto...

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I shot this one in Monument Valley of the North window. It is 9 shots with a Mamiya 150mm lens. I just redid this one and added a bit of sky to it. I have another in Moab that I want to redo also but this is a blast to do. Show us what you have done


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    the is beautiful.

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    Wow, beautiful work everyone have

    Congratulations to everyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    Thank you for the kind words. Yes, the captures were done on the Cube with a simple RRS sliding rail to adjust nodal point.

    Cheers,
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    Having shot from that location many times i find your image the most satisfying I have yet seen. The ability to do stitched panoramas is doing wonders for these wide vista scenes. Using normal lenses, even very wide ones, does not capture the valley at Canyon de Chelly like this does. It is making me think of many other places I have shot (and failed) and would now like to return and shoot the panoramas.

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    What would be the resulting visual difference if you took more shots with a 55mm rather than less shots with the 35mm?

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Autopano Pro allows only one user on one computer? No loading onto the laptop for the field and the desktop for processing? I'm not keen on paying $145 per computer .....

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    Jack

    Having shot from that location many times i find your image the most satisfying I have yet seen. The ability to do stitched panoramas is doing wonders for these wide vista scenes. Using normal lenses, even very wide ones, does not capture the valley at Canyon de Chelly like this does. It is making me think of many other places I have shot (and failed) and would now like to return and shoot the panoramas.

    Super

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    thanks Woody! Just in the process of working it up to print -- should be very nice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_Tuttle View Post
    Autopano Pro allows only one user on one computer? No loading onto the laptop for the field and the desktop for processing? I'm not keen on paying $145 per computer .....
    I installed it on both no problem...
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Me too

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    Interesting. Perhaps I'm not reading the User Agreement correctly ...

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    Jim,
    What lenses are you using with your swd?
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    the 35mm and 55mm digital, and the 135 (from the Horseman 612 series.. the lenses fit both)

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    A question for Jack:
    I would like to replace the ACRA QR Clamp on my Cube. THe CUbe is wonderful but the QR Clamp is scary!! Is the bolt holding the QR Clamp to the Cube Body set with thread sealant? What is the thread size of the bolt? Will the RRS B2-Pro II clamp with Metric 6 screw fit the ARCA Cube? Thanks for guiding me to purchasing the Cube -I LOVE IT!!!!!

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by fotophil View Post
    A question for Jack:
    I would like to replace the ACRA QR Clamp on my Cube. THe CUbe is wonderful but the QR Clamp is scary!! Is the bolt holding the QR Clamp to the Cube Body set with thread sealant? What is the thread size of the bolt? Will the RRS B2-Pro II clamp with Metric 6 screw fit the ARCA Cube? Thanks for guiding me to purchasing the Cube -I LOVE IT!!!!!
    Yes, the stock clamp basically sucks. I like screw clamps too and the RRS B2 Pro II is what I have on mine, the standaqrd version for Arca and RRS heads is a perfect fit You may need a thinner than normal socket to get the factory bolt off, though my deep metric socket did fine.
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    Another Question for Jack:

    My deep socket fit the ARCA Bolt and it is a 6 x 1.00 metric thread just like the RRS Unit. The ARCA QR Clamp has a milled slot which mates to the Cube. The RRS catalog shows a bottom view of their metric clamp which appears to have a slot similar to that of the ARCA Clamp. Is that correct?

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    i just put a RRS B2-Pro II on my cube. it fits perfectly...it has a groove to match the cube "fin" and the supplied screw, though long, works fine. the screw clamp knob is sufficiently offset to clear the cube pan clamp as well.

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by Mark_Tuttle View Post
    Interesting. Perhaps I'm not reading the User Agreement correctly ...
    Which is the case:

    "Hey Mark

    You can install Autopano Pro on several computers (PC, laptop mac/pc ) that's fine. But you are the only one to use it .

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by fotophil View Post
    Another Question for Jack:

    My deep socket fit the ARCA Bolt and it is a 6 x 1.00 metric thread just like the RRS Unit. The ARCA QR Clamp has a milled slot which mates to the Cube. The RRS catalog shows a bottom view of their metric clamp which appears to have a slot similar to that of the ARCA Clamp. Is that correct?
    Yes, it has the slot and is an exact fit for the Arca Cube.

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    After having my RRS B55 QR clamp pop open and drop a 1DSMkII on its head in the parking lot at Arches National Park I resolved never again to use one. The screw types are very simple to use and way more safe. I guess there may be those who switch bodies often or go from horizontal to vertical framing often but i am not one of those.

    Just some thoughts

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    Woody I almost blew it on the workshop TWICE for not screwing the clamp down enough. Both times i caught the camera strap. Call me one damn lucky SOB that is for sure, the camera God's smiled on me. But I agree the clamp screw is the best way.
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    One of the downsides for the new RRS L bracket for the Mamiya is that the actual dovetail base portions are square so they can be inserted in either direction. Unfortunately, this also means it's relatively easy to get the base caught slightly skewed in the clamp and unless you wiggle the camera as you tighten, you inadvertently tighten at a slight angle. As the camera shifts to true in use, the clamping action is lost and the camera is free to slide out of the clamp.

    Moral: Wiggle while tightening regardless of plate or clamp style!
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Even though I prefer the screw clamps, this is one instance where the levers have a slight edge.
    The Arca lever, if properly adjusted, just won't easily close if the base is skewed a bit.
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Flesher View Post
    One of the downsides for the new RRS L bracket for the Mamiya is that the actual dovetail base portions are square so they can be inserted in either direction. Unfortunately, this also means it's relatively easy to get the base caught slightly skewed in the clamp and unless you wiggle the camera as you tighten, you inadvertently tighten at a slight angle. As the camera shifts to true in use, the clamping action is lost and the camera is free to slide out of the clamp.

    Moral: Wiggle while tightening regardless of plate or clamp style!
    Exactly what happened to me
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Woody I almost blew it on the workshop TWICE for not screwing the clamp down enough. Both times i caught the camera strap. Call me one damn lucky SOB that is for sure, the camera God's smiled on me. But I agree the clamp screw is the best way.
    Guy

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    It has happened to me and obviously to you. No more so long as I can have more room to grow. It has finally happened to me and you. God bless

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    I had the entire top of my tripod fall off as I was walking back to the car when I was at a beach shot. Camera, lens, back and a portion of the tripod all went sailing into the sand! Everything turned out okay with the exception of the cable release extension that was just ripped apart.

    I've got the clamping mechanism turned tight enough so that it's a solid feel when I place the camera on the Cube. I now also carry a small tool to check the bolt on my tripod and have been thinking of maybe doing a slight welding job as I really don't ever see a need to take my tripod apart.

    I was luck it fell on soft sand vs. something hard like my head

    I just decided to look into RRS for a possible replacement head after I get back home

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    Honestly I use a Hassy hand strap on my Phase body but still keep a neck strap attached for these very reasons. It saved me twice in the same week and I also when throwing the tripod on my shoulder with camera grab that strap too just in case of such things. It really is a pain to have it on the body with the hand strap but obviously it saved my bacon more than once. Bottom line we are thinking image when in the field and even after all these years some things slip by you. Besides that age does not help either as we get older. We just need to learn to accept that fact as much as we all fight the age issue.
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    Guess I really need to look into putting a leash on the Cambo!
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    Just don't attach it to your belly button. That could hurt. LOL
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    I just burst out laughing and Sandy came in with that look on her face. Too funny and somehow very painful



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    Hey Sandy may like that leash attached. LOL

    Drag you all around to do the house chores. LOL
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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Quick question guys. Do you find the nodal point of the lens in your panos using a slider, and;

    supplemetary question: is there a neat way to use the Cube for this work.

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    Re: Medium Format Pano's

    Pete:

    Yes I use a slider -- just a simple RRS rail with screw clamp. As for the Cube, it is the same as any other panning head and sliding rail combo to set up; in that respect the Cube is not special other than the panning head portion (separate from its panning base) is built into it.
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