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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Seems pretty accurate - I'd heard a while back from an accurate source that the VF was likely going to support waist level plus a bunch of folks have been or are going over to Copenhagen at the moment ...

    I guess voidshatter probably won't get invited to any future Phase One events
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Sure hope they did some more R&D on the long exposure 80MP back which appears to be non CMOS. at least more than they did on the 260. Actually a lot more.

    The real sleeper may be the new 35mm lens.

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    If the new 35mm LS is a home run, it just might cut into a few tech camera sales. Certainly a welcome addition to shore up the comparatively weak wide angle choices for Phase cameras.

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Phase really needs to work on their camera design skills. It looks like something out of a danish design company that knows little about camera design--smart, unusual looking body that probably is not that great to work with. Either that, it it from their back designers that don't have great CAD skill. Fortunately, it looks like a cross between a Volvo and the DF--boxy but might have some functional design remaining from Mamiya (the original Mamiya).

    Totally unimpressed if Phase thinks this is a good waist-level design. The body is designed for eye-level use.
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    As a owner of 2 Volvos, I like the look. Hoping they gave it a few more AF points than 1. The CMOS AF system sounds interesting.

    Everyone knows my dream is for a tilting LCD either on camera or back. Back would be preferred.

    I am sure they will do well with this especially if they got the AF right.

    AND.....some kind of mirror damping along with allowing the focal plane shutter to open and lock up when using a LS lens.

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    Two Volvos, Paul? I don't know if we can hang out together anymore.

    It looks like it has some of those old Contax body lines to me. I'll take great AF performance, and that focal plane/LS dampening is a good one too. Mostly AF accuracy and I'll be happy. Even if it's as ugly as a Volvo, just so long as it isn't as ugly as a Pentax 645z...



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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    It looks more like a Hasselblad H that has gone through a milling machine...

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Right; it lacks the elegant beauty of a Pentax.
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Stephen, right on...

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Seems to me that they took the design cues directly from the IQ backs. Hardly an organic design but if it works as well as we hope and is easy to hold and use, it can be as FUGLY as it wants IMHO.

    One question is whether it comes as a modular kit - ie without the right angle VF and associated electronics that I assume are in it. I guess we'll have to wait and find out in the next day or so.
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

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    Seems to me that they took the design cues directly from the IQ backs. Hardly an organic design but if it works as well as we hope and is easy to hold and use, it can be as FUGLY as it wants IMHO.
    I guess my question is did they design it to appear new, or did they work on it to make it a better camera? This seems to be a designer's camera, and given other designer's cameras that have hit the market, it might end up being a neat looking design, but not much beyond that. Call me a cynic, but the host of designer cameras like the Pentax K01, Ive's M, Hasselblad Lunar, PowerShot N have proven to be rather disappointing. (Fortunately, most designer cameras never make it out of prototyping--Minotla's Electro Zoom X, for example.) Given this Phase camera should be a working camera, I hope they really worked on its function rather than its style. I really hope they found a good camera design company that it going to address the aging DF+ and bring up to date.

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    I think it's looking very promising!
    But what will be the cost of entry? If the 80mpx back isn't CMOS it's a tiny bit disappointing, but not unexpected. Am still hoping to buy into a system for work in the coming month, so will watch this space closely.
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    For me, this is the most intriguing of all the images out there.



    Can anyone explain what that is about?

    Significantly improved AF functionality was perhaps the most requested update to the DF+.

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Looks to me like long awaited, well placed, multiple focus points.

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    I don't necessarily need a bajillion focus points.

    Maybe just a few. But the ability to control which point and most importantly where I want the camera AF to focus accurately----is where I want my money to go.

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    Don't how it looks so long as it works
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    I was told the new 80MP is a full frame Sony CMOS sensor exclusive to Phase One. I'm wondering how long this exclusivity will run.
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    The interesting thing about the backs, if the photos in the link are accurate, is they look to be a 2:3 aspect ratio rather than 4:3. You can't have a "full frame" 4.5x6 at 2:3.

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by yatlee View Post
    I was told the new 80MP is a full frame Sony CMOS sensor exclusive to Phase One. I'm wondering how long this exclusivity will run.
    Damn, I sure hope not as there goes one of my Volvo's for sure.

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    Both!


    Quote Originally Posted by Paul2660 View Post
    Damn, I sure hope not as there goes one of my Volvo's for sure.

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    XF looks good and the 120mm and 35mm LS lenses look great but IQ3 already?

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    It might just be an IQ optimized to take advantage of the full features of the new body oh, and the new 80mp back I suppose. I guess we'll find out soon enough.
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

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    It might just be an IQ optimized to take advantage of the full features of the new body oh, and the new 80mp back I suppose. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

    Yes like IS on the sensor?

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

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    ...just so long as it isn't as ugly as a Pentax 645z...



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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Does anyone know if my current IQ180 back would work with this? It would be a shame if I had to upgrade that as well.

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

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    Does anyone know if my current IQ180 back would work with this? It would be a shame if I had to upgrade that as well.
    If not there will surely be quite a bit of heat.
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    I'll place bets that the new Phase XF is compatible with previous generation MFDBs---we just might not get all the benefits of the integration with the new IQ3 series MFDB. But I'll also place bets that upgrading to a new IQ3 series back is probably going to be more worthwhile than say upgrading for just limited wifi capability. We'll know shortly enough...

    I want the new camera body but I'll stick with my IQ180. I almost don't want to hear about the IQ3 series...

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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    good question,

    as this is a completely new camera, I suppose the lens mount is the same.

    Is the body 645 or 6x6 like the Hy6?

    Is it the same back mount (aka Mamiya Mount)? Does the camera work with older backs? We will know soon.
    This is one of the reasons why some photographers stayed with their vintage camera and mount until this camera finally hits the streets and specs are published. (I nearly got the Sinar m when it came out, I nearly got the Hy6 when it was released...I'm very happy I didn't)
    I'm very happy to see that this camera has the promised WLF (my 503cw is hanging on a copy stand 50% of the time), this could finally be the camera I've been looking for.
    Also looking forward to the 120mm, is it even better then the old one? Could it be my b&b lens for a huge repro job digitalizing glass plates (instead of the 120mm asp apo)


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    I see no reason that Phase would offer a body that only works with one line of backs. Then again I wouldn't be too surprised if it will work on all the older backs beyond the IQ series. But then again we'll know within 24-hours.

    Much like Ken, I'm only interested in the body as I plan on keeping my IQ180 till the wheels fall off.
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    waist level finder ?

    really interesting but only if we can rotate the back...

    i quite like this design myself, that' s a question of taste... i hate the nissan juke... but they sell a lot of it..
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    In exactly 30 minutes I'm driving right by Phase One HQ. You guys want me to stop and take a peak through the windows?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pemihan View Post
    In exactly 30 minutes I'm driving right by Phase One HQ. You guys want me to stop and take a peak through the windows?
    What, the tunnel cave in?
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    We have some nice info to share with you on this, but it's embargo'd until tomorrow. And we adhere to the NDA and embargos... Regardless, we'll be posting their press release (with their photos that you've already seen ) early US time tomorrow.

    Why Phase bothers to embargo this stuff when somebody always leaks it to selected sites is beyond me
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    We have some nice info to share with you on this, but it's embargo'd until tomorrow. And we adhere to the NDA and embargos... Regardless, we'll be posting their press release (with their photos that you've already seen ) early US time tomorrow.

    Why Phase bothers to embargo this stuff when somebody always leaks it to selected sites is beyond me
    Well, it's Tuesday here in Europe right now, so technically...
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    Re: Phase One XF information at Photo Rumors

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    We have some nice info to share with you on this, but it's embargo'd until tomorrow. And we adhere to the NDA and embargos... Regardless, we'll be posting their press release (with their photos that you've already seen ) early US time tomorrow.

    Why Phase bothers to embargo this stuff when somebody always leaks it to selected sites is beyond me
    Hmmm. That means Guy already knows. He has been quiet lately...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    Hmmm. That means Guy already knows. He has been quiet lately...
    Are you kidding? The new Phase XF must be the reason he's hurriedly selling off all his camera bags and extraneous gear...

    He doesn't have a Volvo to sell.

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    What, the tunnel cave in?
    No but this is an old city, lots of obstacles to dig around
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