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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by AlexLF View Post
    Right, I don't. But this is what I'm talking about - most people don't see it for this reason or any other. At the end, most people don't shoot MFD. And like I said, there's no way they jump in anytime soon. Especially, because there's less difference now between 42 mpix and 100 then it was between 12 and 40.
    This camera is not for "most people". It is for "some people" who know what they are doing and what they want. Most people can't tell a difference between an iPhone6 shot and Sony A7Rii shot.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffery Salter View Post
    This may work either wirelessly or with 500 ft of Hdmi cable.

    Kinda on the small size but could do in a pinch

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    That won't fit in Don's backpack.

    Hey---is that Don with hair? Ok, so it's Moses, but obviously Don isn't around to defend himself....
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Hmmm ... although in the absence of a MFDB that I could plug it in to it is somewhat moot. It would be cool with my A7RII though I guess

    I agree about the need for the side finder, depending upon how much glare there is from the screen. That's why I eventually gave up using my iPhone viewfinder on the Alpa. Most of the time it was fine but under certain circumstances, like at sun rise, all I could see was the reflection of my own eyeball.

    Looks like Jeffrey is going for first dibs on the loaner IQ3 100 at CI Carmel? Or perhaps the order is already in?
    Well Graham, since you asked, yes my order is in for the new back. I don't think though that I'm first in line at the Pigs shoot to demo the new back.

    And Ken, yes I'll bring the new SmallHD monitor and eye piece to the Pigs shoot. I don't think that someone we know will have my new back to me in time for our Pigs shoot but we can take turns giving the monitor a test drive while it is connected to the new back. That is, if we can get Don to take the new monitor out of his backpack.
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffrey View Post
    Well Graham, since you asked, yes my order is in for the new back.
    All I can say is ... I shall have to live vicariously through you and the other IQ3 100 owners at Pigs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    All I can say is ... I shall have to live vicariously through you and the other IQ3 100 owners at Pigs.
    I just know there's more room in that motorized camera bag of yours

    We all might be surprised----besides a demo IQ3 100MP, Phase just may make some IQ3 100 deliveries to proud owners prior to Pigs (aka CI in Carmel). We'll see.

    The CMOS live view from the IQ250 was quite good for focusing; the SmallHD and Sidefinder might put everything over the top, especially when dealing with glare. Nice options.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Was lured to b&h
    Brought home the small the smallhd 702 after comparing it to the 501; no eyepiece, bright screen about 4" height of an I-pad screen, where the 501 is a bit smaller than my I-phone 6+ Larger size is useful and screen res looks good
    Will be perfect with canon ts lenses on my a7rII and any Mf lenses
    Am bringing it to pigs so Dave can sell more iq-3's
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    Quote Originally Posted by jlm View Post
    Was lured to b&h
    Brought home the small the smallhd 702 after comparing it to the 501; no eyepiece, bright screen about 4" height of an I-pad screen, where the 501 is a bit smaller than my I-phone 6+ Larger size is useful and screen res looks good
    Will be perfect with canon ts lenses on my a7rII and any Mf lenses
    Am bringing it to pigs so Dave can sell more iq-3's


    Was wondering about that... 5 inch is just a bit bigger than my iphone 6 screen size, but smaller than my wife's plus. May be a bit too small, and not much bigger than the back/camera screen. Any thoughts?

    Anyone try or hear about the Ikan DH5/DH7? The SmallHD screens offer a bunch of features and integrated software that seem useful for video production, but overkill for still's. I just need to compose and focus, not have zebra stripes, focus masking, custom LUT's in monitor, etc. The Ikan DH's are cheap and light...

    I love composing on a ground glass, so interested in trying the screen upside down and backwards, which most monitors allow!

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    B&H is a treasure. i purchased and tried out the 7" SmallHD 702 monitor; great unit, showed it to Doug who ran it off the IQ-3, works quite well. however it is $1,500, and my use will be primarily with the A7RII, not so demanding.

    so i returned it and bought the Elvid RigVison 7" ($500).

    for your info, both can take Sony F750 batteries (and others, like Canon), 7" is better than 5", the Small HD 702 is brighter and can fit one or two batteries, the Elvid comes with a hood and cables, can hold one battery, an AC-12v adapter, a ball swivel mount, the 702 comes with nothing, not even an instruction book, but will take a SD card and has a built in tutorial.

    not an exhaustive comparison, by any means
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    In the Air with the IQ3 100

    I did a test flight with the newly purchased IQ3 101 , XF and different lenses: 80LS, 110LS, 150LS, 120 Macro, 240LS
    It was a very small helicopter (Robinson R44) which produce lots of vibrations. I'm happy to report that I managed to get sharp Images from any of those lenses.

    JPG below
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7w...ew?usp=sharing

    The subject does not matter, the idea was just to test the equipment.
    Sorry, no model right in the middle of the frame with an awesome makup, the latest profoto and with 100% crop on the eyes ;-)
    The helicopter was flying at about 80kts while I took this shot. (1 door off)

    No processing, just levels adjustment, otherwise standard settings (capture one 9.02), exported as Tiff 16 bit Profoto, saved as JPEG Quality 8 (sRGB, 8 bits)
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Halo,

    Yesterday was the 3100 launch in my country. I had a few min to compare it to IQ180. My initial thought was the 3100 has more red saturation in the skin tone ( model is western). In my eyes the IQ 180 has more natural/less saturation. I will post files later.

    I am still waiting for someone here do a skin tone test...Just my 2 cent.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Dan Santoso View Post
    I am still waiting for someone here do a skin tone test...Just my 2 cent.
    We have. We just haven't had time to collate/organize/document/upload for public sharing. Feel free to email me, or, of course discuss this with your local dealer.
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Our test files are now posted: Phase One 100mp Raw Tests
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    My dealer in Toronto has just advised me that my IQ 100 has landed. Going to pick it up tomorrow - just in time for a month-long trip to Australia. Will report in due course!
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Bill,

    I think that it would be a huge mistake to go pick up your new IQ3 100 so close to going on a month long trip to Australia. It's the normal recommendation never to take new, untested, unfamiliar gear with you on such a type of trip. I'd recommend that you take your IQ380 / XF gear.

    As a personal favor, I'll happily fly up to Toronto and pick up the IQ3 100 for you and break it in for you. When you get back any teething issues with that back will be sorted out between me and your dealer and you'll have a rock solid field tested/hardened back when you return.

    What do you think?



    Ok, maybe not then. Enjoy your new uber MFDB. Many of us here will live vicariously through your experience with it.
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Bill,

    As a personal favor, I'll happily fly up to Toronto and pick up the IQ3 100 for you and break it in for you. When you get back any teething issues with that back will be sorted out between me and your dealer and you'll have a rock solid field tested/hardened back when you return.
    Bill,

    In that case, I don't even need a flight, I'm just a nice scenic 2 hr ride away, no need to worry about customs, duties etc., and I could even break in the IQ3100MP on actual landscape images in the very areas you'll be using it. As a bonus, I know Walter quite well, and have any issues resolved well in advance of your return. I can even throw in a Maple Leafe Lounge pass!

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    Graham, Jagsiva, you have no idea what wonderful warm feelings of comradeship you have evoked. Your generosity is overwhelming and it took me several hours (or was that seconds?) to carefully consider such unselfish, giving behaviour on your part.

    Alas, my dealer has taken away my 380 in trade so I have no alternative but to decline your much appreciated offers. But thanks for thinking of me....
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Darn it. Back to plan B
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Haven't had much chance to use the IQ 100 properly yet as I'm struggling with airline travel etc, but my first two impressions are (1) live view is excellent and (2) ISO 800 is very very clean. More to come in the real world.
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    Re: In the Air with the IQ3 100

    Quote Originally Posted by coolpixphotography View Post
    I did a test flight with the newly purchased IQ3 101 , XF and different lenses: 80LS, 110LS, 150LS, 120 Macro, 240LS
    It was a very small helicopter (Robinson R44) which produce lots of vibrations. I'm happy to report that I managed to get sharp Images from any of those lenses.

    JPG below
    https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7w...ew?usp=sharing

    The subject does not matter, the idea was just to test the equipment.
    Sorry, no model right in the middle of the frame with an awesome makup, the latest profoto and with 100% crop on the eyes ;-)
    The helicopter was flying at about 80kts while I took this shot. (1 door off)

    No processing, just levels adjustment, otherwise standard settings (capture one 9.02), exported as Tiff 16 bit Profoto, saved as JPEG Quality 8 (sRGB, 8 bits)
    Sharpness is lacking in the upper left and right corners, OK in upper center.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffery Salter View Post
    Thanks for attaching other posters opinions from the forum about the business side of photography sales. Its a bit of a let down since you do so well with providing your own research and data in regards to digital photography technology.

    I don't disagree or agree with you. You are entitled to your opinions. I am so very sorry you felt personally attacked. You must have missed this part of my post.

    "Thank you for taking your time and effort......."

    It was not my intentions to ruin your day.
    I am surprised that no one is interested in this rumor after all.

    Ricoh has signed a deal with Sony for their new 100MP sensor that was already used by PhaseOne for their latest camera. This info is coming from Kenneth Sporsheim, Pentax Ambassador for the Nordic countries:


    “It’s more than just a rumour, it was told directly to me from Ricoh. BUT, they also said that this doesn’t mean they have a camera ready for this sensor. They CAN use it if they need/want to do so. But who knows what they are brainstorming at the HQ in Japan.” (source: dpreview, Pentaxforums)

    Similar information was also posted on Pentaxone few days ago by a good source who have been right in the past.

    http://pentaxrumors.com/2016/03/17/t...nsor/#more-767
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by voidshatter View Post
    I am surprised that no one is interested in this rumor after all.
    Maybe folks are actually out taking pictures with the camera they have?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jeffery Salter View Post
    Maybe folks are actually out taking pictures with the camera they have?
    Perhaps. I have been mostly away from keyboard for a couple of weeks so I have little clue about what's going on. If Pentax does put that sensor into a new 645 body then gg to those existing MFDBs.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by voidshatter View Post
    Perhaps. I have been mostly away from keyboard for a couple of weeks so I have little clue about what's going on. If Pentax does put that sensor into a new 645 body then gg to those existing MFDBs.
    When Pentax released the 645Z the pace at which we sold Team Phase One 50mp backs increased. So my guess is if Pentax releases a 100mp version of its system it would be a net positive for Phase One.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dougpeterson View Post
    When Pentax released the 645Z the pace at which we sold Team Phase One 50mp backs increased. So my guess is if Pentax releases a 100mp version of its system it would be a net positive for Phase One.
    Perhaps. However I still stand with my original opinion that if the day of Pentax 100 MP comes, then almost all current MFDBs (with the exception of the 100 MP CMOS from PhaseOne/Hasselblad) could drop value drastically.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by voidshatter View Post
    I am surprised that no one is interested in this rumor after all.

    ....
    I think there is already too much rumor and conjecture on the forums as it is, imho.

    I could sit, worry, spin in circles, keep wondering "what if..."

    Or I could simply appreciate what is actually in my hands.

    And work as a photographer.

    And enjoy the process and experience of photography.


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    Quote Originally Posted by voidshatter View Post
    Perhaps. However I still stand with my original opinion that if the day of Pentax 100 MP comes, then almost all current MFDBs (with the exception of the 100 MP CMOS from PhaseOne/Hasselblad) could drop value drastically.
    Yup, it will wipe the floor with everything, unless of course you want leaf shutters, the option to use on a tech cam, the form factor of the S or to use C1, but apart from that, it will brilliant. Why does this feel like a sketch from Monte Python?? Yes, but apart from that, what did the Romans ever do for us?! Haha!
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    What lenses in the Pentax lineup could keep up with full frame 100mpx? People complain enough about the variable quality of the lenses on a crop sensor, afterall.

    What we can all bet on is that all the major players (save Leica) will be using the same 100mpx sensor in due course, maybe earlier than first predicted. For those that are "in the game" it's a good time to be a photographer.

    WIth regards to the Phase offering, I'm of no doubt that its an incredible piece of kit and the XF an amazing leap forward for them. Now for me, I'm off to contemplate a mount swap for my Credo 60...

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    I could buy that new Pentax and all their good digital lenses for less than the $26,000 it would cost to upgrade my IQ180. Not only that but I'd still have the IQ180 !
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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by DougDolde View Post
    I could buy that new Pentax and all their good digital lenses for less than the $26,000 it would cost to upgrade my IQ180. Not only that but I'd still have the IQ180 !


    If the price stays the same. I do think it will be more than the current 50MP and that they keep selling both to slightly different groups.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    What we can all bet on is that all the major players (save Leica) will be using the same 100mpx sensor in due course, maybe earlier than first predicted. For those that are "in the game" it's a good time to be a photographer.
    Exactly. People can choose to get rid of previous products asap to minimize financial loss due to depreciation, or to carry on enjoying what they already have.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Hi Doug,

    I finally download the skin tone comparison. My finding with yours sample, 380 looks very similar with 3100.

    When i compare my 180 with 3100 (during launch in my country), i can see that the 3100 has more reddish skin tone. I am not sure if this is because you have the latest firmware or something else but i am happy to find them very similar now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dougpeterson View Post
    Our test files are now posted: Phase One 100mp Raw Tests

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    Quote Originally Posted by tjv View Post
    What lenses in the Pentax lineup could keep up with full frame 100mpx? People complain enough about the variable quality of the lenses on a crop sensor, afterall.

    What we can all bet on is that all the major players (save Leica) will be using the same 100mpx sensor in due course, maybe earlier than first predicted. For those that are "in the game" it's a good time to be a photographer.

    WIth regards to the Phase offering, I'm of no doubt that its an incredible piece of kit and the XF an amazing leap forward for them. Now for me, I'm off to contemplate a mount swap for my Credo 60...
    People with Superiority complexes who aren't actually shooting Pentax complain that the lenses aren't good enough. The 28-45, the 35 HD, the 55/2.8, the 90/2.8, all universally praised. Yes the other lenses aren't 'as good' but that doesn't mean 'universally bad'. If you need bragging rights, maybe it's not for you. But for photographs it's a nearly complete system that actually manages 1/4000th of a second flash sync with HSS.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedgraphic View Post
    People with Superiority complexes who aren't actually shooting Pentax complain that the lenses aren't good enough. The 28-45, the 35 HD, the 55/2.8, the 90/2.8, all universally praised. Yes the other lenses aren't 'as good' but that doesn't mean 'universally bad'. If you need bragging rights, maybe it's not for you. But for photographs it's a nearly complete system that actually manages 1/4000th of a second flash sync with HSS.

    Very true and I do think the current 50MP Pentax is great and a reason why the IQx50 isn't worth much. However, a lens can be amazing on a crop and crap on FF. We won't know that before it comes out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Christopher View Post
    Very true and I do think the current 50MP Pentax is great and a reason why the IQx50 isn't worth much. However, a lens can be amazing on a crop and crap on FF. We won't know that before it comes out.
    Well I for one am hoping to see a new 75 or 80 with the FF 645x. It's about time. I actually think the current 75/2.8 FA is pretty good, especially at 3.5 and down, but improvements are always welcome. Especially if it's with an F2 aperture.

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    Re: Phase One IQ3 100mp. Shipping now. Full frame CMOS. HDMI.

    Quote Originally Posted by Speedgraphic View Post
    People with Superiority complexes who aren't actually shooting Pentax complain that the lenses aren't good enough. The 28-45, the 35 HD, the 55/2.8, the 90/2.8, all universally praised. Yes the other lenses aren't 'as good' but that doesn't mean 'universally bad'. If you need bragging rights, maybe it's not for you. But for photographs it's a nearly complete system that actually manages 1/4000th of a second flash sync with HSS.
    I have been participating in forums since the early 2000s and my overall impression of posters who discount Pentax is either they haven't used any of the lenses, or if they have, it was for a short period of time. Some may have gotten a bad, used copy; others perhaps never learned to cope with the shutter of the 67. Many of the old lenses are more than good enough, e.g., the 645 120mm macros (A and FA) both can out resolve the sensor on a 645D. There are others as well.

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