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    Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Great news,

    The global site of Hasselblad has new FW for the ISO upgrade and
    HTS 1.5, 35-90 HCD Zoom and DC PowerGrip compatibility.

    Log in go to downloads, Firmware...

    Regards,

    Bob

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Iso Update R248 loaded without problem.

    The combined FW body update 081222.hbf does not load in Phocus 1.1.2 MAC nor in Flexcolor 4.8.8.

    Will attempt another download when it is updated.

    My back H3DII 39 now has 800 as an ISO option.

    Bob

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Let's see some ISO 800 shots, very curious
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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Let's see some ISO 800 shots, very curious
    Guy,

    Here are three quick and dirty...Phocus without any color or noise filtration.
    No white balance changes...

    Output as Tif downsized, converted to sRGB, mode to 8 bit, saved as JPG.
    The originals are as clean as the downsized version.

    Hurray!

    Bob
    Last edited by docmoore; 5th June 2009 at 19:20.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Number 2 not as dark
    Last edited by docmoore; 5th June 2009 at 19:22.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Looks pretty good so far
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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Number three
    Last edited by docmoore; 5th June 2009 at 19:22.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Hooray........been waiting a while for this one

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Thanks Hasselblad for having forgotten the 22mpixels backs :-((((((((((((
    Maybe they don't remember it's also H3DII compatible...

    The Marketing guys should meet the After Sales guys sometimes. And don't tell the 22mp backs couldn't be upgraded the same way, I wouldn't buy it.

    Shame on you.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Hey DocMoore

    Do you have a link to the site? I can't seem to find it

    Woody

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by woodyspedden View Post
    Hey DocMoore

    Do you have a link to the site? I can't seem to find it

    Woody
    Woody,

    Go to hasselbladusa.com

    Top right USA (change) will bring up a new window...pick global. Log in is same as USA site. Downloads at top pick software firmware then firmware on the next page.

    Bob

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Downloaded it and put it my H3D-II/31 to see how the ISO 1600 looks.

    Not much latitude for error in exposure, but for my purposes it looks pretty good. My most important ISO 1600 application is with fill flash, so I can capture more of the ambient light at weddings, etc..

    Big news is that ISO 800 looks to be improved, and seems to be close to what 400 used to be. Time will tell.

    I did discover a one pixel line running side-to-side almost centered when the image is in portrait orientation. However, it's not in all images. I need to shoot more to check this out further. For that reason I will not upgrade my H3D-II/39 which I am using for paying work right now.

    I'm on a deadline right now and only had time for a few snaps @ ISO 1600:

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Am a reluctant firmware upgrader till everyone says its ok - so please keep posteing experiences -

    Shots look nice and clean.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Keep them coming , like to see more. It does look very good so far. We need to see into the shadows and see what is lurking there
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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Like to see this area at 100 percent. I see smearing or something
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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Hmmm . . . . No ISO 800 support for the H3d 39 (not II). Very irritating.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Like to see this area at 100 percent. I see smearing or something
    Actually I had to look very closely at that. If you mean the change on the rail I see the same thing when sitting at my desk where I took the pic. I walked to the stairs and there is an area of woodgrain that extends from the 3-4 style to the 5-6 style on the rail.

    Looks smeared on the photo and in person...just another gift from my homebuilder. I had better not tell my wife about this one.

    I will take a pic up close when I get home from the hospital this PM.

    Seems like there is a new version of Phocus which allows the combined HBF FW to load..cannot confirm that as the hasselblad site is overloaded at the moment.

    Bob

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post

    Seems like there is a new version of Phocus which allows the combined HBF FW to load..cannot confirm that as the hasselblad site is overloaded at the moment.

    Bob

    Bob
    Just logged onto the Global site and there is now a version Mac 1.1.3 of Phocus which corrects a bug.

    Yahoo!

    Bob

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post

    I will take a pic up close when I get home...

    Bob
    Here is a detail of the rail...

    This was processed in Phocus 1.1.3 after a successful update of the combined file.

    Bob
    Last edited by docmoore; 5th June 2009 at 19:22.

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    Marc,

    Your ISO 1600 pics look very very good.

    I have seen no lines yet in portrait orientation on the 39 back and hope that it may have been a card read glitch.

    Guy,

    Previous post Style == stile my mistake cannot blame spell check.

    I have to take some time to compare ISO 50 100 ... 800 to see just how much acuity is lost at the higher iso. I assume it is severe and will relegate this to an as needed basis but nice to have in a pinch. Since I try to shoot most everything at 50 it is not too important, the one advantage of having no paying clients. My reflex response over the past year has been to grab the D3 for almost any non-locked down capture.

    It is nice to know that after a year of delays and unfulfilled promises the FW has arrived.

    Bob

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Bob the back wall is what I meant sorry i drew outside the lines. LOL
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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Bob the back wall is what I meant sorry i drew outside the lines. LOL
    You are correct..that ceiling is 35 feet from the point of focus at F4.8 and was very dark but at 100% there is a loss of detail...I think that this will be a last ditch setting for most of us.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Good news, the one pixel line was an anomaly ... I used my new 32 gig CF card and a freshly charged battery, and it disappeared.

    Even better news was some available light 1600 shots I did early this AM .... this is really useable for my wedding work ... and I discovered something interesting while playing around with Phocus ... I used the B&W option in Phocus when converting it to a tiff .... which produced an unusably flat tiff file ... but when I opened it in PSCS4 and hit auto contrast ... it made a perfect B&W which I was unable to match by converting the color version of the same file ... and it had far less noise. Real magic there. That is going to really speed up my wedding work flow.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Marc,

    I hope to try the BW conversion you mentioned tonight on a few files. It is nice to have this additional ISO step after waiting this past year. Do you see and improvement across the board or only at 800/1600? I shot a few pictures last evening at 200 on the H3D II 39 and they were 1/2 stop under and looked awful when I raised them from DNG in PS CS4. I need to export as TIFF-16 and compare them.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Marc,

    I tried the Greyscale output from Phocus.

    Here is Marc's conversion on an ISO 50 file...converted to 16 bit RGB then contrast corrected. You are right that the file imports as flat as can be...just like the scans from FLexcolor....very nice.

    Bob
    Last edited by docmoore; 5th June 2009 at 19:22.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    That is an impressive look. I will try and upgrade this weekend down at farm - too busy to do so during this week. Thanks Doc and Marc for your posts.

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    Peter,

    As usual Marc is on to something good...just watch your histogram as the greyscale is 8 bit and if you do a lot of post you may want to convert to RGB 16 bit upon opening in CS4.

    Upgrade to R248 and Phocus 1.1.3 went without any problems.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Thanks Bob.

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    Quote Originally Posted by docmoore View Post
    Marc,

    I hope to try the BW conversion you mentioned tonight on a few files. It is nice to have this additional ISO step after waiting this past year. Do you see and improvement across the board or only at 800/1600? I shot a few pictures last evening at 200 on the H3D II 39 and they were 1/2 stop under and looked awful when I raised them from DNG in PS CS4. I need to export as TIFF-16 and compare them.

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    Hi Bob,

    Exporting to DNG will lose all the benefits of the extra stop ISO. The increase on the camera goes part and parcel with Phocus so you need to use both in combo for the benefit!

    David

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    David,

    I assumed as much but was testing a new lens...delivered to me an hour prior to sunset. Not a lot of time to unpack and run off a few shots. It is quite evident that DNG output is best for quick editing of shots for out of focus bad composition culling and not much more.

    I will go back this morning and try to recover a few of the better shots with Phocus.

    Thanks,

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by David Grover / Hasselblad View Post
    Hi Bob,

    Exporting to DNG will lose all the benefits of the extra stop ISO. The increase on the camera goes part and parcel with Phocus so you need to use both in combo for the benefit!

    David
    Are we sure about that?

    I exported an untouched 1600 file in both file formats, and they looked the same (????), and the exif info on both says 1600.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    What I mean is that the noise levels are likely to be much lower in the Phocus->TIFF conversion as opposed to Phocus->DNG->TIFF>

    Although maybe Lightroom/CS4 is doing a better job now?

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Quote Originally Posted by fotografz View Post
    Good news, the one pixel line was an anomaly ... I used my new 32 gig CF card and a freshly charged battery, and it disappeared.

    Even better news was some available light 1600 shots I did early this AM .... this is really useable for my wedding work ... and I discovered something interesting while playing around with Phocus ... I used the B&W option in Phocus when converting it to a tiff .... which produced an unusably flat tiff file ... but when I opened it in PSCS4 and hit auto contrast ... it made a perfect B&W which I was unable to match by converting the color version of the same file ... and it had far less noise. Real magic there. That is going to really speed up my wedding work flow.
    Marc

    IIRC Hasselblad recently sent out a warning to not use the 32GB cards in the H3DII cameras. Am I wrong about this?

    Woody

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    The Issue was discovered to only effect the H3D50 and a firmware fix has already been posted on Hasselblad.com.

    Users can update their own cameras via Phocus.

    David

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Yes they did, it was a caution until they could investigate further.... and rescinded it for all models except the H3D-II/50 ... which they promptly corrected with a firmware update a couple of days later.

    All's well for 32 gig CFs Woody.

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    Re: Hasselblad FW Update R248

    Marc and Bob
    Your black and white conversion from PH>CS3>contrast is great...
    It has a Ilford SFX feel to it, which I used to love back in the day.
    Thanks for the heads up
    am

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