subrata1965
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When can we expect announcement about Credo 100?
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Does your wife even know about your Credo 50 yet?When can we expect announcement about Credo 100?
What are the "frills" that could be deleted? If Phase just used firmware to delete features, I for one would consider that a very cynical way to respond to price competition in the marketplace. I mean, what would be the reaction if BMW cut the price of an M3 by calling it an M3 Junior and selling it with the same engine but with a special electronic circuit that cut the power by 30%?Not sure if Credo label still is in Phase One's future plans.
It would be pretty sweet if they did announce a no frills Credo 100 and under cut the H6D-100 price.
I hope so. That might be my future upgrade.
My understanding is these two are not 100% identical:What are the "frills" that could be deleted? If Phase just used firmware to delete features, I for one would consider that a very cynical way to respond to price competition in the marketplace. I mean, what would be the reaction if BMW cut the price of an M3 by calling it an M3 Junior and selling it with the same engine but with a special electronic circuit that cut the power by 30%?
Actually Credo is already a no frills offering from Phase One. No wifi, gps, automatic levelling and keystone corrections in Capture One, reduced or no value added warranty, no long exposure capability unlike IQ260 or IQ380. They could skip HDMI too.What are the "frills" that could be deleted? If Phase just used firmware to delete features, I for one would consider that a very cynical way to respond to price competition in the marketplace. I mean, what would be the reaction if BMW cut the price of an M3 by calling it an M3 Junior and selling it with the same engine but with a special electronic circuit that cut the power by 30%?
No. I've asked for this many times and they are deliberately kept as different renderings/looks. It is true that most of the IQ & Credo hardware is common but the image processing is supposedly different.I have a Credo 60. I've never figured it out, but is its supposed better colour due to back firmware, or simple profiles in C1? Can one simply apply Leaf Credo profiles to an IQ back to get the same results?
I love it. What are friends for..A true partner in crime!,,,LOLDoes your wife even know about your Credo 50 yet?
Having the Credo 50 means it'll be easier to swap out a similar looking Credo 100----and maybe she won't notice. Let me know if you go for it----and I can make a Credo 50 sticker that you can put on top of the Credo 100 logo. :ROTFL:
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We can argue about Hassy, Phase One, Leaf, etc. They are all expensive. So in the end game, it is all the same and a brotherhood here in Dante's Inferno: we gotta watch each other's backs!I love it. What are friends for..A true partner in crime!,,,LOL
I didn't say that it couldn't be done. Just that given identical hardware, with both CCD and CMOS, Leaf and P1 have different rendering looks and have repeatedly told me that they wouldn't provide a simple set of profiles to alternate between their renderings. They want the brands to be different. Yes, it's tweaking bits not significantly different hardware as far as I'm aware.In the age of CCD chips, I could believe that. But now, with CMOS and the fact that everyone is using the same 100MP chip, I just don’t buy it. In a CMOS chip, each ‘pixel’ has it’s own charge-to-voltage conversion, and the sensor often includes amplifiers, noise-correction, and digitization circuits, so that the chip outputs digital bits. Given that all of that is configured by Sony, how are Leaf’s digital bits different from Phase One’s or Hasselblad’s when using the same sensor ? Of course, Leaf could have some firmware in the back itself tweaking the numbers read out from the chip before spitting out the raw file, but if that’s the case it should mean that a similar sort of manipulation could be done to a P1 file or HB file in post to get the 'Leaf look'.
The color filter array depends on the camera manufacturer.Given that all of that is configured by Sony, how are Leaf’s digital bits different from Phase One’s or Hasselblad’s when using the same sensor ?