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    P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    P1 has a webinar up on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYQ_Sy-uzrQ

    The previous description of blue ring lenses was more metal, better quality control and the ability to fine tune autofocus for multiple lenses of the same focal length.

    But in this webinar they bring up the attached slide which says "Advanced XF communication for future tools ". They danced around the issue and never described it in detail.

    Anyone care to guess what they have in mind which won't work with all previous lenses?
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Damn. This could possibly ruin my blue-rubber band on the SK LS lens barrel strategy. It took me awhile to find high quality Phase One blue rubber bands too....Name:  2016-08-09 21.25.55.jpg
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    I really hope they introduce a GPS module for the hot shoe. In this way any blue rubber bands are not affected.

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeJ View Post

    Anyone care to guess what they have in mind which won't work with all previous lenses?
    better focus stacking ability ?

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Quote Originally Posted by archivue View Post
    better focus stacking ability ?
    Don't think so. Why? So far it works great on all lenses. My guess would be some type of true focus or "anti blur" but who knows....
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Damn. This could possibly ruin my blue-rubber band on the SK LS lens barrel strategy. It took me awhile to find high quality Phase One blue rubber bands too....Name:  2016-08-09 21.25.55.jpg
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    'nuff said?
    (although not one of Ken's bands)

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Morning

    As someone who has picked up a set of last generation lenses at great prices based on the well published info that some lenses haven't changed their optical performance, just build quality, I'd be peeved if it turns out that future options will not be available to me without the new lenses!

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Update: This info is erroneous, unfortunately! I was looking at EXIF data extracted from an "EIP" file by RawDigger. Extracting the IQQ file from the EIP and opening that file in RawDigger and checking EXIF has not shown those entries. So, the information was probably added by Capture One and not part of the original IIQ file. I was jumping conclusions…

    Sorry for my mistake!




    Hi,

    T&S lenses and devices commincating amount of tilt and shift? I think I have seen some EXIF fields for that in recent IIQ files, but that was a while ago.

    Best regards
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    Quote Originally Posted by DrakeJ View Post
    P1 has a webinar up on youtube here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYQ_Sy-uzrQ

    The previous description of blue ring lenses was more metal, better quality control and the ability to fine tune autofocus for multiple lenses of the same focal length.

    But in this webinar they bring up the attached slide which says "Advanced XF communication for future tools ". They danced around the issue and never described it in detail.

    Anyone care to guess what they have in mind which won't work with all previous lenses?
    Last edited by ErikKaffehr; 10th August 2016 at 22:14.

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Damn. This could possibly ruin my blue-rubber band on the SK LS lens barrel strategy. It took me awhile to find high quality Phase One blue rubber bands too....Name:  2016-08-09 21.25.55.jpg
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    Hahahahahahahahaha
    Great . I love that . I will see if I can get some of these rings here . Honestly .
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Damn. This could possibly ruin my blue-rubber band on the SK LS lens barrel strategy. It took me awhile to find high quality Phase One blue rubber bands too....Name:  2016-08-09 21.25.55.jpg
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    Will you have these available at the next Pigs?
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    I have never seen a blue ring DB before. Now I will have to trade up I guess.

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    The silver rings on the "old" SK LS lenses are so yesterday. Any fashion conscious denizen of Dante's Forum knows that already. "Blue" is the new Black.

    And, of course, me and Don will be distributing these fine Phase One Blue rubber bands at next year's CI/Pigs 2017 (no matter what Dave Gallagher says)

    The 9th Annual CI/Pigs not a workshop-workshop is on location in 2017---and it's a special one.

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Ken
    Would you mind sending me some of these rings ? ? ? Not packages , I don't have that much lenses .
    I will send you a PM if you are prepared and send money right away by PAYPAL . I can't attend the CI/Pigs 2017 .
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    I wish Phase and Alpa would get their colors straightened out. I need a yellow rubber band for my 40hr. The blue is so yesterday.

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Yellow bands are available through AMAZ**.com . Ken surely has the proper size .
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    I just turned all my Rodenstocks into Blue Rings. Can someone keep their eyes out for yellow?

    If you really want a blue band, send me a PM, Jurgen. You can always attend CI/Pigs in the spirit of Dante...

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    For my ALPAs I have two blue ring lenses , one magenta and three green banded lenses .
    Will I still be regarded as a serious photographer here in DANTES INFERNO ? ? ?
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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    Quote Originally Posted by mjr View Post
    Morning

    As someone who has picked up a set of last generation lenses at great prices based on the well published info that some lenses haven't changed their optical performance, just build quality, I'd be peeved if it turns out that future options will not be available to me without the new lenses!

    Mat
    Indeed, I'm looking at used lenses and this sort of ruins it. Wish they could spell out exactly what you miss by going with the old lenses instead of talking in riddles. Could be just a marketing ploy...

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    I'd be peeved, too. I mean, what a waste of good rubber-bands.

    I'm really happy with the optical performance of the SK LS lenses, and the real difference has been the addition of the Phase XF with its vastly improved AF performance. If the conjecture is correct about some "Tru-focus-like" tweak, I would think that would be more within the realm of the gyros and Honeybee AF system within the XF, rather than reliant on the lens. It's a cruel world here with Dante...

    I'm still placing my bets on my Phase One blue rubber bands and sticking with my current SK LS lenses. If some monumental future improvement comes of this "advanced XF communications" that seems worthwhile, keep an eye out for some great SK LS lens deals on the GetDPI buy/sell forum. Mine will come with some really cool blue rubber bands.

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    Re: P1 webinar on Blue Ring lenses - "Advanced XF communications for future tools"

    FWIW here's my view of the BR lenses. The 35 mm, as I think you all know, is in a class by itself and far superior to the previous 35 (which I used to have).

    My SK55 and SK80 (non BR) are really really good and other than the beefier build, I can't imagine the BR versions could be better. They're staying in my bag.

    The BR 120 Macro is definitely better than my previous non BR which I sold.

    The BR 150 is no better optically than the Mamiya 150 2.8. I only sold the latter because I wanted the leaf shutter - but of course lost a half-stop in speed. They're both very sharp.

    I can't comment on the SK240 because I've not tried the BR version, but my non BR copy is entirely satisfactory and I won't be trading it.

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