Where is "God's own Country"?
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a new question of the electronics travel ban, trying to figure alternatives
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stephengilbert
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I'd assume it's a snide reference to the U.S.
Jorgen apparently lives someplace better.
Jorgen apparently lives someplace better.
stephengilbert
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Expanding the ban to flights from Europe has apparently been "put on hold:"
ALL THAT for nothing. After a reported “high-level” meeting between U.S. and E.U. officials, the plan to restrict large electronic devices from the passenger cabins of flights from Europe to the United States has been put on indefinite hold. According to news reports, European officials were able to convince the American homeland security representatives that the plan was a bad idea, citing serious logistical and safety concerns (see earlier posts below). Further talks are scheduled, however, and it remains possible that an electronics ban of some kind could be enacted in the coming weeks.
The earlier ban, affecting flights from ten airports in eight countries across the Middle East, Morocco and Turkey, remains in place.
http://www.askthepilot.com/tsa-laptop-ban/
ALL THAT for nothing. After a reported “high-level” meeting between U.S. and E.U. officials, the plan to restrict large electronic devices from the passenger cabins of flights from Europe to the United States has been put on indefinite hold. According to news reports, European officials were able to convince the American homeland security representatives that the plan was a bad idea, citing serious logistical and safety concerns (see earlier posts below). Further talks are scheduled, however, and it remains possible that an electronics ban of some kind could be enacted in the coming weeks.
The earlier ban, affecting flights from ten airports in eight countries across the Middle East, Morocco and Turkey, remains in place.
http://www.askthepilot.com/tsa-laptop-ban/
Jorgen Udvang
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It's a European thing, originally from Germany I believe, joking about American culture and society. Sorry if I offended anyone.
Jorgen Udvang
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Exactly. In addition comes the danger of things being stolen, which happens all the time at airports around the world. And don't believe that a locked Pelican Case or whatever will solve that problem. Tools have been invented to cut through plastic, and even metals lately. Can you believe it?
Knorp
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photo-bowman
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Sure..... and if not an old Hasselblad 500 or Rolleiflex or anything alike without lightmeter I fear it wont work either. For those cameras got batteries as well....
And just as an afterthought..... why is it safer for a plane I do send a steel box in and be NOT on the plane myself???
One can only hope this wont take general effect......
This whole thing is insane.
I just hope there will be a workable solution for this for all travellers and photographers....
At the airport right now headed back from Europe. Currently London Heathrow, but just went through Vienna this morning, with an XF + IQ Back + surface Pro 4, all chargers, etc. Not a word was said through multiple x-ray checks, connections, etc.
I think you'll hear a lot more if it becomes a reality. Definitely not one now. So, worry not.
I think you'll hear a lot more if it becomes a reality. Definitely not one now. So, worry not.
You must be kidding, right?
This simply isn't true.
An x-ray machine of the type used at airports will easily "see through" the metal case of a laptop.
thedigitalbean
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This is a service that Emirates (and I believe Etihad and Turkish Airlines also offer) offers. You take everything with you to the gate, where all carryon luggage is hand searched regardless. They then carefully pack everything into these cardboard boxes that are then zip tied closed. They give you a claim tag. In SFO, they have a special area in the baggage claim where they bring all the boxes out and then an agent verifies the claim tag and then gives you the box. They also help you open it there and verify everything is there. Oh and at the time of packing they also take an inventory of what is getting packed. IMO the risk of theft with this service is very low.
photo-bowman
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I had a similar experience a few days ago. Did not take MF gear but a Canon 1Dx and an old Rolleiflex plus lenses, tablets chargers and one of those NexTo-Cardreader Harddrives. Packed it all up in plastic boxes for the transport (and my own sorting). Gotten through airport security in Frankfurt/Germany and Dublin.
Bigger problem was to convince those "heros" at the checks to handcheck my 120-film! In Dublin they plain refused and Xrayed them... held me breath all the way till I got them developed.
Let us all hope it gets sorted!
It's OK. We joke about your culture too.
Jorgen Udvang
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According to the article, Secretary of Homeland Security, John Kelly, said ”Terrorists are "obsessed” with "knocking down an airplane in flight, particularly a US carrier if it's full of mostly US folks.”
Then the question is, with the current, apparently too weak, security regulations, why haven't the terrorists done that then (No, attacks against Russians don't count. He's talking about Americans.)? Not since Lockerbie anyway (correct me if I'm wrong), which again was done with a bomb in an electronic device in the cargo hold.
Me thinks the guy is out to scare you guys.
stngoldberg
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I listened to the interview on "MEET THE PRESS"
Kelly's only motive is to keep the public safe, and while that may greatly inconvenience us, the alternatives are absent
Stanley
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So, Russian lives don't matter. The lives from Egypt don't matter. Passengers flying over Ethiopia don't matter. Maylasia flight 370 doesn't count because Americans were not the target. UTA flight 772 enroute to Paris over the Sahara doesn't count. Philippines airlines, the 224 people flying from Egypt to St. Petersburg, Russia in 2015 don't count either. The evolution of the technique of Islamic terrorism in their quest to do harm to countless innocent civilians should be of no concern to you a long as ignorance feeds the political correctness of today's modern society. A shining, glittering example that's simply breath taking! It must be Russian collusion and not the content of exposed emails or the sharing of intel that has puts us at the greatest risk. Yeah, it must be that.
TimothyHyde
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Like Roger Dunham, I am through arguing about the wisdom or politics surrounding this matter. I am assuming it will happen and planning various strategies to deal with it for the two European trips I have planned this year. Nor, by the way, do I intend to plead with some security chap in Budapest that my lenses are actually not dangerous. I am getting additional insurance and making sure the new H6D-100c and lenses are covered in this situation, and buying the appropriate Pelican cases and locating shipping points for returning my gear to the US.
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I was warned while planning a trip to Baghdad to not use long lenses because they look like missile launchers. Might be best with an iPhone or mirrorless.
glenerrolrd
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Beyond the possible airline restrictions ...I am much more concerned about being mugged . Insurance wouldn t help much if the robber decides to take you out . M s are pretty low profile ...but I have been warned now on my last two trips to hide them more on the street .
My approach for my trip to France/Switzerland is to assume I can take 4 small M lenses on the plane with me and ship the 2 M bodies home . I will be in Paris near a Leica Store so I am pretty confident I can ship them home in a well packed cardboard shipping box .
I agree that a Pelican would be better but then I would have to drag the darn case all over until the return trip .
Can anyone provide a typical price per thousand for insurance and any limitations for international losses .
My approach for my trip to France/Switzerland is to assume I can take 4 small M lenses on the plane with me and ship the 2 M bodies home . I will be in Paris near a Leica Store so I am pretty confident I can ship them home in a well packed cardboard shipping box .
I agree that a Pelican would be better but then I would have to drag the darn case all over until the return trip .
Can anyone provide a typical price per thousand for insurance and any limitations for international losses .
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