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    Lou, Clever! Well done!

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    Thank you Doug. I totally agree! You start seeing the light and landscape in a different way that adds a whole new dimension to the experience.
    Ed, ugh, this is NOT what I want to read. Iím with CI at the moment looking to try out the achromatic again this week. I love my Monochrom and liked what I got last time I tried the achromatic for a day. Iím hiding my Amex ...
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    Ed, ugh, this is NOT what I want to read. Iím with CI at the moment looking to try out the achromatic again this week. I love my Monochrom and liked what I got last time I tried the achromatic for a day. Iím hiding my Amex ...
    Just send your Amex to me, problem solved.
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    Actually he should send the check to me and buy my incredible 100mp achro so I can upgrade!

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    Just send your Amex to me, problem solved.
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    Ed, ugh, this is NOT what I want to read. Iím with CI at the moment looking to try out the achromatic again this week. I love my Monochrom and liked what I got last time I tried the achromatic for a day. Iím hiding my Amex ...
    Graham, you have been awfully quiet - did you succumb to the evil forces of the dark side?

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    Methinks that Graham is now going to forego the new super sports car and make offerings to Dante instead....

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    It doesnít help that Iím here with Lou who has his achro here, CI with a demo and some target rich vegetation to shoot. (We would have another achro 100 too but it got dropped before we had a chance to use it).

    Blue skies and most of the day to kill so time to break out the mono or IR, right?
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    My goal is to avoid this:

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    Although as Dave Gallagher said to me, if I run off with the back, he knows where I live and he also has my Amex number

    Plus it doesnít help that Jeffrey Littel is here too and is enabling me with IR filters ... although I think that heíll croak first
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    Graham, it is only (your) money. What kind of fiends would we be if we walked into a bar and saw you drinking to tell you not to have another beer?
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    So now the only thing that is still in the open is whether Graham goes with the 100 or 150 Achro

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    Obviously, the Achro 150 as it would have better trade in value for the Achro 300...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Shashin View Post
    Obviously, the Achro 150 as it would have better trade in value for the Achro 300...
    But of course, how stupid of me to even think otherwise!

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    Enough talk.

    One from last winter.
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    IQ3100 Achromatic /SK150/486+red filters-maybe overkill?

    Major rain today, sometimes sideways. Processed best with SEFEX Pro versus C1.
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    Btw, I’d forgotten how challenging focusing the achromatic can be with LV on a tech camera. Any hints?

    The low contrast makes it a challenge I found, but I love the resulting files that can be stretched so far to add contrast in post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by GrahamWelland View Post
    Btw, Iíd forgotten how challenging focusing the achromatic can be with LV on a tech camera. Any hints?

    The low contrast makes it a challenge I found, but I love the resulting files that can be stretched so far to add contrast in post.
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    What filters did you have on the lens when focusing? I have found that the 486, orange or red filters make focusing faster and easier for my eye. But then again I have all the IR filters for each lens even though they are not used that much these days probably because I just prefer capturing "normal" B&W most of the time.
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    I used red 690nm and dark red 790nm. So mixed. I didn’t have a 486 IR cut on so it was slightly IR bleed through vs pure IR or 486 only visible.
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    No one is supplying an EVF to go with these backs?! They are very useful precisely in situations like this.

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    Btw, I’d forgotten how challenging focusing the achromatic can be with LV on a tech camera. Any hints?

    The low contrast makes it a challenge I found, but I love the resulting files that can be stretched so far to add contrast in post.
    I use these IR UV cut filters for normal B&W and don't have any issues focusing in LV except it can be difficult in very low light. IR can be tricky, but generally I don't have a lot of issues again except in low light.
    https://www.formatt-hitech.com/filte...rest-uv-ir-cut

    What I generally do is focus on the foreground and then shift LV to the background and adjust focus so the BG is in focus and then shift back to foreground and adjust so both foreground and background is acceptable. I guess I'm sort of finding the hyperfocal point. At least it works for me, YMMV.

    Of course focusing in full spectrum can be tricky. If you focus on things with a high degree of IR radiation e.g. leaves , then things with a low degree of IR radiation e.g. tree trunks will be fuzzy and of course the same is the case the other way around.

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    I am assuming you are talking about IR. It woul help if the live view could allow you to adjust itís exposure or contrast.

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    Btw, Iíd forgotten how challenging focusing the achromatic can be with LV on a tech camera. Any hints?

    The low contrast makes it a challenge I found, but I love the resulting files that can be stretched so far to add contrast in post.
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    I know many of us do not rely on the focus tool which on mine shows those areas in focus in bright green when enough contrast can activate it. However it sometimes gives me an idea where I am OK, but foreground focus and infinity or farthist point focus and then back and forth with tilt is what works for me.

    Is that what they mean when they say tech cams slow you down for better or worse?
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    Quote Originally Posted by etrump View Post
    I am assuming you are talking about IR. It woul help if the live view could allow you to adjust itís exposure or contrast.
    Actually a mix of visible and some extension into IR. Basically, being able to add more contrast to a scene in live view would help. I was shooting very foliage rich scenes so contrast was subtle at best. Also, it didnít help that the loaner back wouldnít connect via WiFi to Capture Pilot on my phone / iPad to help. (My own IQ3100 works perfectly - the loaner not so much).

    As is normal with my technical camera, I resorted to focus, shoot, focus review. Rinse and repeat.
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    Think it through Graham..... I have no skin in this game and it's extremely unlikely I would ever be a candidate for the Achro but for whatever bargain you can work out it's still going to be a fair amount of money so it should all meet and work to your expectations.

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    I would support that GFX conversion.

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    I would support that GFX conversion.
    About that....

    I just heard from Daniel at Monochrome Imaging who said at this time he can't convert that sensor (the IMX161 in the GFX/X1D), and that he doesn't see that changing any time in the near future. Bummer.

    I suggested to Ming Thein via facebook that HB offer an achromatic back, and his response was "shoot color, convert in post, utilize flexibility of channel mixers" (although when asked he did state that there are advantages of sensors without the RGB filter).

    Looks like P1 is the way to go for achromatic/monochrome at the sensor level for now, unless there are others that could do the conversion.

    At least IQ2/IQ3 CPO prices have come down with the IQ4 launch.

    Anyway, lets see some more Achromatic DB images
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    Kolari Vision used to list the GFX 50S as a IR/Full spectrum conversion selection----I don't see it on their site anymore. LifePixel and Spencer's both have the Fuji GFX as IR/FS candidates.

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    Good to know the GFX can still undergo FS/IR conversion, thanks Ken
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    Dunno, Todd. You first.

    I actually wouldn't mind sending in my GFX 50 for conversion----once the new Fuji is released. I'd rather have a Phase One Achromatic....

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Dunno, Todd. You first.

    I actually wouldn't mind sending in my GFX 50 for conversion----once the new Fuji is released. I'd rather have a Phase One Achromatic....

    This is exactly what I am planning...' wish they would get on with it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kdphotography View Post
    Dunno, Todd. You first.

    I actually wouldn't mind sending in my GFX 50 for conversion----once the new Fuji is released. I'd rather have a Phase One Achromatic....
    I like this game of chicken

    I'm also in the "I'd rather have a P1 Achromatic" club. After all, this is the inferno, and the GFX won't play with the currently back-less Alpa STC/70 HR I have sitting in my drybox

    I won't know if I have any budget for new gear in 2018/2019 for another couple months, but in the meantime, I'm enjoying the images here. And if either you or pesto convert your GFX in the meantime I'll happily drool over those images too haha.

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    About that....

    I just heard from Daniel at Monochrome Imaging who said at this time he can't convert that sensor (the IMX161 in the GFX/X1D), and that he doesn't see that changing any time in the near future.
    Too bad. If the GFX50R pans out for me I was cintemplating converting one to monochrome for walk around use.

    Guess I'll have to stick with my IQ3100 Achromatic for now.

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    This is from Jonathan Dickinson State Park in Jupiter, Fl.
    P! XF-IQ3 100 Achromatic. f8,SK80LS,1/400,ISO800. 715nm.
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    This is from Vizcaya in Miami, Fl.
    P1 XF-IQ3 100 Achromatic. 715nm,f14,SK80LS,1/125,ISO800
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    Really like this one. Congrats.

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    Steven, thank you very much. I'm glad you liked it.

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    This is from the Peaceful Waters Sanctuary in Willoughby, Fl.
    P1 XF-IQ3 100 Achromatic.715nm. f11, SK80LS, 1/25", ISO400
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    Cambo WRS, 100 Achro, SK120ASPH, IR Cut.
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    This is from Green Cay Wetlands in Boynton Beach, Fl.
    P1 XF-IQ3 100 Achromatic 715nm, f11,SK35LS,1/100,ISO200
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    These are both from Green Cay Wetlands in Boynton Beach, Fl.
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    This is from Stuart, Fl.
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    This is from Wakodahatchee Wetlands in Boynton Beach, Florida
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    This is from Wakodahatchee Wetlands in Delray Beach, Fl.
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    This is from Peaceful Waters Sanctuary in Wellington, Florida
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    This is from Viera Wetlands in Viera,Florida
    P1 XF-IQ3 100 Achromatic, 830nm.f11,SK80LS,ISO200,1/80"
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    This is from Ft. Pierce, Fl.
    P1 XF-IQ3 100 Achromatic, 715nm, f11,25",SK80LS,ISO200
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    In Scotland w/ IQ3100-Achro/Arca Factum/Rodie 40

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    ISO 200 / 1/30s / f11 / 1 deg tilt + 5mm fall for composition / Lee .6 GND + 486 filters

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    netherlands texel kaap-nord

    phase-one df 645+ - hb carl-zeiss distagon 50mm/yellow-orange - iq260 achromatic
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    Windmill
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    IR filter 072

    Edited in Capture One Pro v12

    This printer is only printing 6 shades of black ink - no colour ink.
    https://www.instagram.com/onlymonochrom/

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    Re: Fun with MF Achromatic Digital Backs

    Paul, outstanding work. You put 830nm for the IR filter.

    I'm curious which brand or format do folks prefer using? I've got various from B+W 093 and Hoya 072 - all circular. I'd like to be able to have all my filters in 100x100 in the LEE holder, but LEE only makes the polyester sheets.

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    These are from Mckee Gardens in Vero Beach, Fl.
    P1 XF-IQ3 100 Achromatic, 830nm. Focus Stacked
    f8,SK35LS,1/60''and f11, SK35LS,1/40"
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    Re: Fun with MF Achromatic Digital Backs

    Quote Originally Posted by lookbook View Post
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    phase-one df 645+ - hb carl-zeiss distagon 50mm/yellow-orange - iq260 achromatic
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