You gotta love digital obsolescence...
https://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/12/04/2018-fujifilm-xh1-gfx-r/
https://www.thephoblographer.com/2017/12/04/2018-fujifilm-xh1-gfx-r/
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New Fuji GFXr
- Thread starter jdphoto
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If true, I don’t think it makes the GFX obsolete. I think that a rangefinder type and SLR-like with EVF can coexist nicely.
iiiNelson
Well-known member
I assume this is due to some sort of EOL cycle onbthe sensor. I can see the camera being in the $4-4500 range as cameras like the 645z can be had for $5000 now with a little shopping around.
Jorgen Udvang
Subscriber Member
Size probably. If it's a simpler, lighter and smaller design than the 50s, it starts to become interesting. Price isn't too much more than a D850 or a A7r III, but the image quality of the Fuji is clearly superior. Looks like a very interesting option if it's true.
I would expect it to be something between an X1D and an X-Pro2 (haha. I mean Hass X1D and Fuji X-Pro2)
iiiNelson
Well-known member
As others have said you get a different form factor and perhaps the hybrid OVF/EVF system like the XPro series.
I have no experience with the Fuji X-Pro series, so I don't know if it is a true rangefinder when it comes to focusing. I have a Mamiya 7 and a "real" Leica CL, and I would sure not want to rely upon the focusing systems in those cameras with a very high resolution sensor. I do think that Fuji could come up with a smaller version of the GFX by sacrificing the modularity. I also had the sense when I owned a GFX that there was a lot of empty real estate inside it. It was a lot lighter than its size would indicate.
iiiNelson
Well-known member
It wouldn’t be a true rangefinder as there are no rangefinder elements in these cameras. It would be a rangefinder style camera that has simulated frameline projection (I presume based on the XPro line), an OVF/EVF, and rangefinder form factor. The camera would still be largely used alongside autofocus lenses and EVF, as you know from experiences with them, greatly ease manual focusing/Focus confirmation compared with traditional OVF’s whether on DSLR or Rangefinders.
Current marketing strategies in today's digital world will have many consumers thinking their product is out of date. One of the best cameras i've ever used was the Sony A900 and Nikon D800. Perfectly good cameras by today's standards, but obsolete to most.
Fuji will produce a hybrid OVF/EVF, similar to the Xpro2.
MF rangefinder? If so, I think Fuji is answering a question that few people are asking. The X-Pro2 succeeds here as it's small and light (especially with something like the XF 35mm f2 fitted) and for the same reason I doubt the GFX 50R would work, too big and heavy. That is, unless Fuji can pare down the size and weight, then maybe.
They also need to improve the GFX AF tracking for moving subjects. They've managed this with the X-Pro2 which wasn't very good when it first appeared. Now, with the latest FW upgrade, it's a lot better. I suspect they will improve the AF via firmware in the next few months as they have confirmed production of the GF 250mm f4 telephoto and TC for 2018, the current AF capability isn't good enough for the potential suggested by that lens.
They also need to improve the GFX AF tracking for moving subjects. They've managed this with the X-Pro2 which wasn't very good when it first appeared. Now, with the latest FW upgrade, it's a lot better. I suspect they will improve the AF via firmware in the next few months as they have confirmed production of the GF 250mm f4 telephoto and TC for 2018, the current AF capability isn't good enough for the potential suggested by that lens.
Shashin
Well-known member
Fuji has never been afraid of big and heavy rangefinder cameras. Just look at their 6x9 models. I certainly would be interested in a medium-format X Pro2. I already like the current X Pro2 and it really is great to use. I have never enjoyed EVFs, except for the screen on the back of the camera.
I see. Very interesting option to have an OVF. However, I also never liked framing/composing with wide and long lenses through a viewfinder that uses framelines. I personally need to see the visual effects of a wide or long lens. I have the 43mm lens for the Mamiya 7. Beautiful optical quality, but I found it challenging to frame/compose with it using the auxiliary finder.
The X-Pro 2 viewfinder is a hybrid OVF/EVF. From what I understand you can use it as an OVF, an EVF, or both. This is what I envision Fuji doing with a GFX rangefinder style camera.
More info here: http://fujifilm-x.com/us/x-stories/advanced-hybrid-multi-viewfinder-of-x-pro2-part1/
Never used one but I always looked neat.
iiiNelson
Well-known member
You have the choice to use the camera in either way. You can pull up frame lines to be projected into the OVF or you can use it as a straight EVF if you prefer.
It’s a pretty neat hybrid system for an EVF/OVF combo. I like frame lines for environmental portraits or candid shots as you can see when people/things are entering the frames so that one can pre-focus a bit for exposure. My main qualm with the X-Pro2 is that there’s no articulating/tilting screen and I’m not overly fond of the shutter and ISO dial being paired. I think ISO shouldve it’s own knob ring and exposure compensation could be paired with either on its present design.
If you have a local Fuji store you should test one out on store.
I never bothered using the auxiliary VF on my Mamiya 7/43mm. The camera viewfinder corresponds approximately to the 43mm FL.