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Fuji GFX100 DPReview

pegelli

Well-known member
This has to be the most ugly and ungainly camera body I have ever seen. I simply cannot imagine how this body ever received design approval. With all Fuji’s resources, do they not employ anyone with a shred of design sense?
Given how good the GFX lenses are across the board, I would have seriously considered a GFX 100S, but never this abomination. Unfortunate, because it is unclear whether Hasselblad will come out with an X2D that has the new Sony 100mp sensor.
This is what you wrote some time ago:
It’s uncanny whenever Hasselblad announces a new camera. The responses fall into two camps. Those who actually own Hasselblad cameras are pleased and cautiously optimistic about the specifications. And those who don’t own them, would never own them, make snarky remarks about the new camera and/or those who own them. The latter publicly pretend that it’s “good to have competition “ while secretly wishing that Hasselblad would fail. This is what’s sad.
So it's not OK to make snarky remarks about Hasselblad but it is OK to do so about Fuji :facesmack:
 

Satrycon

Well-known member
oh dear..


GFX 100 Main Specs and Features

1) Best Image Quality in Large MF Format

Announcement 1st half 2019
Shipping first half 2019
Launch price around $10,000
World’s first 102M pixels 43.8×32.9mm new BSI CMOS sensor as a mirrorless digital camera
X processor 4
5.76M-dot interchangeable EVF & Tilt Adapter

2) High Speed Medium Format

World’s first on board Phase Detection Hybrid AF as a medium format digital camera
approx. 100& coverage PDAF on Sensor area

3) High Performance Medium Format

World’s first in body image stabilization as a medium format digital camera
mount: 65mm. Short Flange back: 26.7mm

4) world’s first 4K/30p video as a medium format mirrorless digital camera

New Shooting mode switch operation with larger “Sub Monitor”


GFX100 doesn’t have dials on top plate (S.S/ISO dial, Exp. Comp. doa) for realizing Still/Movie hybrid camera for professionals, GFX100 has a shooting mode dial (Still/Multi/Movie) on top

In studio or any shooting condition professionals need quick setting for both still and movie, but physical dials sometimes delay the set-up to shoot. So GFX100 has both Still and Moview setting just switching the mode dial and realize quick check all settings on sub monitor.

And for tether shooting from PC it also helpful to change setting on both PC or camera and check easier on any monitors

Of course it also effective for reducing the body size and weight

Onboard PDAF in Medium Format Camera

Approx. 100% coverage

-2EV @ F2, 50% faster autofocus performance

This large sensor features high-speed phase detection AF. Phase detection pixels are embedded at high density across the sensor surface to provide high-speed autofocusing with excellent accuracy. The camera to reach a new audience in moving subject medium format photography. This system meets and exceeds the create needs of professional photographers.

The Worlds’ first 102M pixels mirrorelss camera

New 102 megapixels guarantee not only image quality as the sensitivity, noise and dynamic range. the construction will be “backside illuminated structure”. It must be performed for sensitivity and capacity of photons and also support faster aperture by oblique light waves.

World’s 1st IBIS in Medium Format Body

102 Megapixel must be sensitive for any vibration. Target performance: 5.0 stops!!

This is the world’s first medium format interchangeable lens digital camera, equipped with “In-Body image stabilization”. The IBIS functionality rewrites the rules for medium format cameras, giving users the ability to handhold a high-resolution camera in all types of photography scenarios

Thanks. Yup, I agree with that. :thumbup:
Foremost Fuji has to make sure it actually works reliably! :facesmack:
 

PeterA

Well-known member
I'm sensing some itchy scratchy feelings in the pants of owners of Phase One junk - I could be wrong though.:ROTFL:
 

Tim

Active member
If you know anything about manufacturing complex electronics you'd understand that more switch gear and controls increases cost, often dramatically.
By having fewer external controls and less parts,

the BOM is smaller,
production cost lower due to ...
less complicated top and back plates with less holes to drill
lower waste of unusable parts
failures decrease,
less cost of fitting by technicians,
possible lower reworks and returns due to switch failures,
easier and more effective to seal,
much less internal connectors to rotary encoders, simplify assembly
etc etc

and in the end you end up with a Megapixel monster like this is at a achievable price for some Pros and amateurs.
I've read many a post nearly begging manufacturers to give us cameras with the basics. That is what is here. A no-nonsense camera with resolution.
I'd like to see the armchair camera designers that think they know better get out of their chair and go make a better camera. Then I will critique their work.

Me, I love the function over form industrial tool look. It looks better than the Leica SL.
So kudos and hats off to Fuji for making a ground breaking device. Sure, its back to basics but there would be many who will adapt to its way of working just to access this sensor and get files.
We are fortunate that companies such as Fuji push products in a slightly different direction. :thumbs: Its a good time to be into photography. I hope they sell all they can make.
 

gerald.d

Well-known member
Can't help wondering whether all those moaning about how the camera looks have actually read the article.

For those who can't be bothered...

This is an early prototype, with many key features in-place and working, but not all. This particular camera is literally 'unfinished' in another sense, because it's still waiting for its final cladding. The current smooth rubber covering will be replaced by a textured finish, similar to that used on the GFX 50S.
 

PeterA

Well-known member
If you know anything about manufacturing complex electronics you'd understand that more switch gear and controls increases cost, often dramatically.
By having fewer external controls and less parts,

the BOM is smaller,
production cost lower due to ...
less complicated top and back plates with less holes to drill
lower waste of unusable parts
failures decrease,
less cost of fitting by technicians,
possible lower reworks and returns due to switch failures,
easier and more effective to seal,
much less internal connectors to rotary encoders, simplify assembly
etc etc

and in the end you end up with a Megapixel monster like this is at a achievable price for some Pros and amateurs.
I've read many a post nearly begging manufacturers to give us cameras with the basics. That is what is here. A no-nonsense camera with resolution.
I'd like to see the armchair camera designers that think they know better get out of their chair and go make a better camera. Then I will critique their work.

Me, I love the function over form industrial tool look. It looks better than the Leica SL.
So kudos and hats off to Fuji for making a ground breaking device. Sure, its back to basics but there would be many who will adapt to its way of working just to access this sensor and get files.
We are fortunate that companies such as Fuji push products in a slightly different direction. :thumbs: Its a good time to be into photography. I hope they sell all they can make.
sensible post is sensible - except nothing is better looking than the Leica SL - except for the Leica R9 -:)
 

Tim

Active member
sensible post is sensible - except nothing is better looking than the Leica SL - except for the Leica R9 -:)
Yeah, you have me there, the SL is a good study of functional industrial design and the R9 a tool. I always found my R4 very ergonomic. I miss her.
 

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
Am I the only person who cares how a camera feels in the hand? I don't look at my equipment, but I hold it a lot. I guess if I used a tripod more, I'd care less about balance and ergonomics. Lately, weight has become more important. And while that *is* something you can read off a spec sheet, balance is still body and lens dependent.

For all the obvious reasons, I've picked up the MF Fujis a bunch of times, but didn't like how they felt. Past experience shows me that I just won't use such a camera. This is no reflection on its IQ, lens system, manufacturing tolerances, or anything else. (Cameras I just don't like holding: Sony A7 series (used one for a year or two, gave it away), Phase One XF, Hasselblad H, Leica M. Cameras I use but don't love: Hasselblad X1D, Leica SL. Cameras I love to use: Canon 1 series, Leica S)

So when the 100MP Fuji comes out, I'll go (literally) pick one up. Until then, it's all kinda irrelevant.

Interesting times,

Matt
 

Jorgen Udvang

Subscriber Member
Am I the only person who cares how a camera feels in the hand? I don't look at my equipment, but I hold it a lot. I guess if I used a tripod more, I'd care less about balance and ergonomics. Lately, weight has become more important. And while that *is* something you can read off a spec sheet, balance is still body and lens dependent.

For all the obvious reasons, I've picked up the MF Fujis a bunch of times, but didn't like how they felt. Past experience shows me that I just won't use such a camera. This is no reflection on its IQ, lens system, manufacturing tolerances, or anything else. (Cameras I just don't like holding: Sony A7 series (used one for a year or two, gave it away), Phase One XF, Hasselblad H, Leica M. Cameras I use but don't love: Hasselblad X1D, Leica SL. Cameras I love to use: Canon 1 series, Leica S)

So when the 100MP Fuji comes out, I'll go (literally) pick one up. Until then, it's all kinda irrelevant.

Interesting times,

Matt
Agree 100%. Ergonomics and lenses, lenses and ergonomics. Then viewfinder, but I have gotten used to surprisingly bad viewfinders (Fuji S3, Panasonic GH1). This Fuji? It looks a bit "boxy", but so do my GX8 bodies that work so well. I do wish they'd made it more similar to the E-M1X though, with its more fluent lines. We'll see when it arrives. It will for sure be a best seller.
 

Stuart Richardson

Active member
It does look kind of interesting at this point. It does look a bit ungainly, but it is also starting to look a bit more like a Mamiya 7II, actually. As far as I am concerned, if it is like a Mamiya 7II in hand, that is a very very good thing. Few cameras are as easy to handhold in relation to their negative size as the M7II. If you have a big camera with a big sensor, proper handheld ergonomics are critical, unless it is designed to be on a tripod all the time, in which case the ergonomics need to shift for that scenario.

At the moment, the features offered for the price are pretty breathtaking...Fuji is certainly the bull in the proverbial MFD china shop.
 

GrahamWelland

Subscriber & Workshop Member
Am I the only person who cares how a camera feels in the hand?
I am absolutely with you. From the first time I picked up a Nikon Pro D body camera (D1, D1X, D2X, D3X, D3, D3S, F6 etc) I knew what felt great in my hands and I enjoyed using. Now Nikon did use Guigiaro who was no slouch at decent design and they just fit my hands naturally in a way that Canons never did.

The Fuji GFX50s does that too (for me). My XF is a bit bauhaus industrial stark by comparison but not terrible.

Anyway Matt, yes I absolutely can relate to this. Let’s see how production versions work out. I’d prefer a little more ‘organic’ design but let’s wait and see. :thumbup:
 

Satrycon

Well-known member
as far as i know the leica SL 4.4 MP EVF is made by Epson Japan ["Ultramicron EVF"], and im guessing the new S1/S1R/SL2/GFX100 all use the newer Epson 5.7MP Ultramicron EVF

Agree 100%. Ergonomics and lenses, lenses and ergonomics. Then viewfinder, but I have gotten used to surprisingly bad viewfinders (Fuji S3, Panasonic GH1). This Fuji? It looks a bit "boxy", but so do my GX8 bodies that work so well. I do wish they'd made it more similar to the E-M1X though, with its more fluent lines. We'll see when it arrives. It will for sure be a best seller.
 

PeterA

Well-known member
Am I the only person who cares how a camera feels in the hand? I don't look at my equipment, but I hold it a lot. I guess if I used a tripod more, I'd care less about balance and ergonomics. Lately, weight has become more important. And while that *is* something you can read off a spec sheet, balance is still body and lens dependent.

For all the obvious reasons, I've picked up the MF Fujis a bunch of times, but didn't like how they felt. Past experience shows me that I just won't use such a camera. This is no reflection on its IQ, lens system, manufacturing tolerances, or anything else. (Cameras I just don't like holding: Sony A7 series (used one for a year or two, gave it away), Phase One XF, Hasselblad H, Leica M. Cameras I use but don't love: Hasselblad X1D, Leica SL. Cameras I love to use: Canon 1 series, Leica S)

So when the 100MP Fuji comes out, I'll go (literally) pick one up. Until then, it's all kinda irrelevant.

Interesting times,

Matt
The FujiGFX100 - is going to feel like a Canon 1 series in your hand not as good as the Leica S - but no where near as heavy either.

If you watch the Fuji Dubai video going around - you will also see that Fuji have developed a " module" MF system which is aimed at both tech cam users AND can also be configured by addition of handles/viewfinders/drives etc - to suit whatever purposes are required. Basically a digital chip with lens mount in front and and LCD in the back - nothing else. I can see one of these perched on the back of an Alpa body whilst still using Fuji OR Alpa or whatever make lens you want.
 

GrahamWelland

Subscriber & Workshop Member
I don’t see the advantage of the modular design. More interfaces and mechanical connnections which in my book translates into less reliability. I have the GFX grip and it isn’t 100% reliable for me and now I just use the base body.

I’d take the fugly body over a modular transformer system.

Just my $0.02
 
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vjbelle

Well-known member
The GFX 100 will look lovely on my tripod. For the few times that I would hand hold it I'm sure it will work out fine. Done deal for me:thumbup:

Victor
 

MGrayson

Subscriber and Workshop Member
I forgot about the Mamiya 7II. I love using that system and its glorious optics. (I know the Fuji glass is superb. It’s amazing how many fantastic lenses there are in all the MF systems today!)

Well, Devil. Details.

M
 
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