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New Phase One Firmware for IQ, XF, and XT

dougpeterson

Workshop Member
https://www.dtcommercialphoto.com/new-iq-firmware/

- Exposure Changes via Hard Button (ISO on all Bodies, plus Shutter/Aperture on XF and XT)
- Virtual Horizon Revamp (All Camera Bodies)
- Bracketing via ES in Digital Back (Only available with XT)
- Time Lapse in Digital Back (Only available with XT)
- Automated Frame Averaging Improvements (All Camera Bodies)
- Live View Histogram Overlay (All Camera Bodies)
- Minor Tweaks

This update does not enable Ad Hoc. P1 is still taking a big swing at something great here, but as a result it's taken longer than expected and is still not right around the corner.

More details here: New Phase One firmware for Phase One XT, XF, and IQ.
 
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Mexecutioner

Well-known member
https://www.dtcommercialphoto.com/new-iq-firmware/

- Exposure Changes via Hard Button (All Camera Bodies)
- Virtual Horizon Revamp (All Camera Bodies)
- Bracketing via ES in Digital Back (Only available with XT)
- Time Lapse in Digital Back (Only available with XT)
- Automated Frame Averaging Improvements (All Camera Bodies)
- Live View Histogram Overlay (All Camera Bodies)
- Minor Tweaks

This update does not enable Ad Hoc. P1 is still taking a big swing at something great here, but as a result it's taken longer than expected and is still not right around the corner.

More details here: New Phase One firmware for Phase One XT, XF, and IQ.
Sweet! Looking forward to installing this later today.
 

drunkenspyder

Well-known member
https://www.dtcommercialphoto.com/new-iq-firmware/

- Exposure Changes via Hard Button (All Camera Bodies)
- Virtual Horizon Revamp (All Camera Bodies)
- Bracketing via ES in Digital Back (Only available with XT)
- Time Lapse in Digital Back (Only available with XT)
- Automated Frame Averaging Improvements (All Camera Bodies)
- Live View Histogram Overlay (All Camera Bodies)
- Minor Tweaks

This update does not enable Ad Hoc. P1 is still taking a big swing at something great here, but as a result it's taken longer than expected and is still not right around the corner.

More details here: New Phase One firmware for Phase One XT, XF, and IQ.
Some sweet stuff. Thanks for the heads up.
 

Gerd

Active member
I only used it for 5 minutes on the IQ4 Achromatic ...

Looks like an absolute nightmare update for me again.

When using the FA function - IQ4 freezes. Factory reset and firmware reinstall does not help.

In the LiveView on a Cambo WRS only ISO is visible. Time and apterure are missing. You have to go back and set the time / aperture in the main menu. I do not accept the use of XT as an argument. The apture and time setting controls the exposure simulation in LiveView.

Greeting Gerd
 

dchew

Well-known member
Hi Doug,
On your website you confirm the above with this text:
"On a Phase One XT or XF you can change shutter speed, aperture, and ISO. On traditional manual tech cameras you can only change shutter speed and ISO using these buttons since the aperture on such cameras must be manually adjusted on the lens itself."

In this firmware, the only variable that can be changed from the back on a technical camera is ISO. Is this a bug?

Dave
 

dougpeterson

Workshop Member
Hi Doug,
On your website you confirm the above with this text:
"On a Phase One XT or XF you can change shutter speed, aperture, and ISO. On traditional manual tech cameras you can only change shutter speed and ISO using these buttons since the aperture on such cameras must be manually adjusted on the lens itself."

In this firmware, the only variable that can be changed from the back on a technical camera is ISO. Is this a bug?
Our website description was in error, not the firmware. It is being corrected now.

Both shutter speed and aperture, at this time, are only available when using the XT or XF. It is not available for ES.

Sorry for the confusion.
 

dchew

Well-known member
Our website description was in error, not the firmware. It is being corrected now.

Both shutter speed and aperture, at this time, are only available when using the XT or XF. It is not available for ES.

Sorry for the confusion.
Thanks, Doug. I REALLY hope this is temporary. All the communication up to this point, including all the initial firmware info, was that this feature would be available through the electronic shutter on the back with any technical camera. Clearly, the dealer network though so too. It will be hard to justify limiting it only to the XF/XT. I cannot imagine the new, ground-up IQ4 platform isn't capable...

Dave
 

dougpeterson

Workshop Member
Thanks, Doug. I REALLY hope this is temporary. All the communication up to this point, including all the initial firmware info, was that this feature would be available through the electronic shutter on the back with any technical camera. Clearly, the dealer network though so too. It will be hard to justify limiting it only to the XF/XT. I cannot imagine the new, ground-up IQ4 platform isn't capable...
I would expect the relevantly possible controls* to be extended to all tech cameras in a future firmware. I agree fully that the hardware capability is all there. It only requires some "minor" UI tweaks and then testing on those kinds of platforms. Same goes for a tool like Exposure Bracketing.

That's what DT is pushing for anyway.

P.S. Anytime someone uses the work "minor" alongside "UI tweaks" a UI specialist feels a pain in their chest; it's never quite as simple as it sounds. But in any case, on the relative scale, these would be pretty minor.
 

Christopher

Active member
Why would Phase one offer all these features to every tech cam? I hope they do, but don’t forget they are now in the tech cam business. They want to push the XT and if it not the hardware features which make people buy it, they can still push it with software even if that pisses us other users of.

There is NO reason why all these features are XT only, except making money.
 
The new firmware finally lifts the exposure time limit for individual frames of the Automated Frame Averaging Tool. On the previous firmware the longest shutter speed available in that tool has been 2 seconds. Now you can use up to 1 hour. However, the maximum sequence length is still limited to 2 hours. Great improvement!
 

Pelorus

Member
It's a nice point Christopher, however I think there are other drivers: PhaseOne is I think the only manufacturer of digital backs in the world. (Edit: there is of course Hasselblad, but in market terms that seems to me increasingly meaningless and it sort of feels like the same applies to Sinar.) Denmark is a member of the EU, if somewhat reluctantly from time to time! The EU has fairly strong competition legislation.

So you have a monopoly provider of a product. If they were to "misuse" their market power to the detriment of their now competitors in the tech cam market that may constitute abuse of market power. I'm sure PhaseOne don't have any such intention and don't want to be involved in conversations about competition law!

Why would Phase one offer all these features to every tech cam? I hope they do, but don’t forget they are now in the tech cam business. They want to push the XT and if it not the hardware features which make people buy it, they can still push it with software even if that pisses us other users of.

There is NO reason why all these features are XT only, except making money.
 

rsinclair

Member
Has anyone tried to use this firmware on a tech camera with Frame averaging? I am hearing that there are serious issues. CI has updated their blog with some notes on tech camera use with Frame averaging.

https://captureintegration.com/released-xt-camera-system-firmware-6-00-52/

I was just about to install, then I re-read the blog (was going for the installation instructions).

My thanks to CI for providing the update.

Paul C
Just tested on Arca IQ4 150 and had the exact same behaviors posted via your link at CI. A reboot got the back working again. A single e-shutter and 2-shot copal still work.

Thanks for posting the notice.

_Robert
 

BFD

Active member
Has anyone tried to use this firmware on a tech camera with Frame averaging? I am hearing that there are serious issues. CI has updated their blog with some notes on tech camera use with Frame averaging.

https://captureintegration.com/released-xt-camera-system-firmware-6-00-52/

I was just about to install, then I re-read the blog (was going for the installation instructions).

My thanks to CI for providing the update.

Paul C
The CI blog post really gives in-depth knowledge of what you can expect when using this update. Unfortunately, there are so many if/and/or/buts with this firmware that P1 should be embarrassed that they released it. How could anyone possibly remember all the new bugs/issues when out in the field? I will have to dedicate one of my assistants to solely standby and monitor all the possible bug combinations and how to combat/workaround them. Yikes.
 

Wayne Fox

Workshop Member
This update does not enable Ad Hoc. P1 is still taking a big swing at something great here, but as a result it's taken longer than expected and is still not right around the corner.
That’s disappointing. This is a core need for many shooters, and they should have figured out how to make what they had work, then swing for the fences. Waiting this long for a mission critical function for many is really a disservice to their long time loyal customer base who paid dearly for the new platform, only to find out it was crippled and full of bugs.

I hope they realize most aren’t look for C1 power via adhoc while shooting, this is just to control the camera, check focus and composition etc. There really wasn’t that much wrong with Capture Pilot other than some reliability issues. I don’t even want it to run on an iPad or a Surface Pro, a iPhone max or similar size android is more than adequate.

When shooting, I’m shooting, I’m not post processing. Those that need that can already hard tether and run the camera out of capture one. I guess I’m having a hard time really understanding what they’re trying to create that would be so “great”, often developers get involved in feature creep, adding stuff that nobody really needs at the expense of core functionality.
 

BFD

Active member
That’s disappointing. This is a core need for many shooters, and they should have figured out how to make what they had work, then swing for the fences. Waiting this long for a mission critical function for many is really a disservice to their long time loyal customer base who paid dearly for the new platform, only to find out it was crippled and full of bugs.

I hope they realize most aren’t look for C1 power via adhoc while shooting, this is just to control the camera, check focus and composition etc. There really wasn’t that much wrong with Capture Pilot other than some reliability issues. I don’t even want it to run on an iPad or a Surface Pro, a iPhone max or similar size android is more than adequate.

When shooting, I’m shooting, I’m not post processing. Those that need that can already hard tether and run the camera out of capture one. I guess I’m having a hard time really understanding what they’re trying to create that would be so “great”, often developers get involved in feature creep, adding stuff that nobody really needs at the expense of core functionality.
I agree whole heartedly with all of your comments. I need the back to shoot. Most people I know feel the same. When you need more horsepower, you bring a laptop. The whole "CaptureOne in the back" was just so unneeded. If they took the "CaptureOne in the back" out of it, would it boot up in a reasonable amount of time?
 

algrove

Well-known member
I have been in the field for 10 days. So now I read this and I have no idea what will happen if I update my IQ4 Achromatic.

So Update or no?
 

BFD

Active member
I have been in the field for 10 days. So now I read this and I have no idea what will happen if I update my IQ4 Achromatic.

So Update or no?
I would go through the CI notes carefully. If you need a function or issue resolved that this firmware supposedly makes better, then weigh the pros and cons of doing the update. If you have been in the field for 10 days and everything is working great for you and you don't need any of the new "features", I would leave it alone.
 

bab

Active member
With the P1 announcement offering Firmware upgrades by a camera company in today’s world stricken me as a huge positive showing they intend to produce. You could be in my situation awaiting a Firmware release from Hasselblad who hasn’t committed to anything, much less confirming whether or not the H6D-100c has reached the end of its life cycle. Hasselblad encourages you to make suggestions as to what you would like to have hardware or Firmware upgrades. But unlike many (all other) solvent camera manufactures Hasselblad refuses to comment other than repeating the same sentence Ive heard for three years. We have given your requests to the engineers or what your asking is not possible. When I hear that I want to ring their neck. If they are sick of hearing from me they have the choice I don’t fix it.

P1 again for the fifteenth time is a multi tiered marketing company selling its products based on lease to own price. Shame they could have owned the MF camera business as it turns out now their just a struggling niche.
 
The CI blog post really gives in-depth knowledge of what you can expect when using this update. Unfortunately, there are so many if/and/or/buts with this firmware that P1 should be embarrassed that they released it. How could anyone possibly remember all the new bugs/issues when out in the field? I will have to dedicate one of my assistants to solely standby and monitor all the possible bug combinations and how to combat/workaround them. Yikes.
CI always does internal testing before advising the customers, whether it is Apple OS Update, Capture One new release or Firmware update.
 
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