Not sure if we discussed that in this thread - it was WRT full frame image circle on the new H3D2-60 in combination with the HCD28 lens.
The answer is - have a look on the Hasselblad site and their documentation: all HCD lenses (28 and 35-90) will not deliver the full frame of the 60MP back - period!
This is really unfortunate, as Hasselblad obviously made their FF decision some 3 years ago, when they did not know about the next generation sensor sizes, or simply were ignorant. So either there will be another "new" 28 lens which will support the larger image circle or simply Phase has a clear advantage here with their Mamiya solution and the P65+
Also I can tell you that I tested Phocus - and of course I am not a very experienced user now after playing with it for several hours - but I find this SW on the level of C1Pro some 4 years ago - PERIOD!
This is really not amusing - especially if one reads through all the nice stories behind and around Hasselblad!
What finally counts for me is execution - and I do not see execution anymore in the Hasselblad camp - rather fighting competition and closing the camp :thumbdown:
Several hours with Phocus and you're expert enough to make declaritive statements? Trust me, you are NOT. Period!
Execution? What do you mean by execution? Please clarify.
This is execution that benefits me:
Hasselblad has continuously upgraded my H3D-II performance with software and firmware improvements. Not that others haven't ... just that they have!
They have offered a T/S device that uses my existing lenses should I opt for that. They didn't promise it and not deliver it. They delivered it. Period.
They have improved the performance of the camera itself without making me buy another body. The focus accuracy is improved. The ISO performance has improved. Power use has improved. They added the ability to use shutter delay to aid in slower shutter hand-held work ... which actually works! And so on, and on, and on.
I had a Mamiya 645 and hated the camera so much I got out of it at a loss. A declarative statement based on a lot more than a few hours playing around with it ... more like real jobs over a year of heavy use. Multiple batteries, no ability to swap finders, shooting delay, slower AF than the H camera, no central leaf shutter lenses as promised forever :thumbdown:. IMHO, despite the H camera being over a decade old now, it's still a better camera. :thumbup: Period.
Fighting competition? You mean making competitive products at a more reasonable price point? Sounds good to me.
Mamiya 28 an advantage due to full frame coverage? Not the one I tried on my Mamiya. Soft in the corners even on a crop frame DB ... can't imagine it on a 60 meg back.
The Hassey 28 was made so people that needed a wide angle solution for then existing 31 meg back @ 1.3X crop and 39 meg back @ 1.1X crop could have one THEN, not years later. Whether they bring out a FF 28 will probably depend on how popular the 60 back is eventually.
If by "execution" you mean IQ ... I've used them all quite a bit (except the Sinar Backs), and don't see one iota of difference, just differences in philosphy on how to get there.
BTW, the nice stories around Hasselblad are because it delivers. At least for me it does. Relentlessly and reliably. Period! :thumbs:
