I think together with the HDMI output this is a strong advantage over MFDBs. On one chanel you can quickly preview JPGs whilst on the other the Tech may adjust the raw files...good point on the jpegs - assuming the processing is up to snuff
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I think together with the HDMI output this is a strong advantage over MFDBs. On one chanel you can quickly preview JPGs whilst on the other the Tech may adjust the raw files...good point on the jpegs - assuming the processing is up to snuff
The Moire removal tool in Phocus is very very good.But moire has to be removed by the user, because selective (and therefore not affecting the other parts of the image) recognition is easier for the human brain than for any software, no surprise here - just like in all other pro-systems.
Peter,And I could not care less about a JPEG output of a high end camera - what game do we play here - Kindergarden???? Come on this is really a nightmare and if my clients want to see first outputs during shooting, they can do so with C1 and numerous cameras directly from the RAW files.
For me a system consists of camera, lenses, post processing options, flexibility all together. And if one sucks, then the whole system sucks in my opinion. Unless Leica can proof highest quality with easy and comfortable and flexible handling of post processing, the S System is dead for me. And I think not only for me, but for lot of others.
Speak for yourself. I doubt it includes "a lot of others".@LJ
For me a system consists of camera, lenses, post processing options, flexibility all together. And if one sucks, then the whole system sucks in my opinion. Unless Leica can proof highest quality with easy and comfortable and flexible handling of post processing, the S System is dead for me. And I think not only for me, but for lot of others.
Well,Speak for yourself. I doubt it includes "a lot of others".
I'd go for the S2 if I could afford it BECAUSE it is set up for Lightroom.
There are a host of really good photographers that use all those other post programs that "suck." What perplexes me is why the end product they produce doesn't also suck? How can that be?
To date, nothing tops LR for speed, flexability and security IMO. Everytime I try to debate the IQ issue with my pal Irakly in favor of C1, he shows me how to achieve the same thing in LR twice as fast and twice as easy. He uses a Phase One back and M8, yet favors LR as the post program. His work sure sure doesn't "suck".
Besides, I could not imagine processing a wedding in C1 ... life is just to short.
Different strokes for different folks.
1) I love shooting weddings, and I'm anything but poor because of it.Well,
1) I do NOT have to do weddings - thanks god and poor you
2) I do not say you cannot achieve good results with LR, issue is how convenient to get there. I used LR for over 2 years, before I went for Aperture and this was for a good reason, because Aperture was that time much more developed and mature than LR.
3) Maybe LR is good today, maybe I should give it a try.
So you see, I am not as religious as you, I just am lazy and not willing to change PP SW every few months
My observations too! But there are folks out there who obviously do not care about such details.Well I love lightroom it is great it is fast and to get perfect colors and a finished images is much faster than any other program. I hate C1 compared to it, it feels like using a program that came out 10 years ago.....
However it depends what you need. I will do all the final editing in Lightroom, but for raw conversions Lightroom just sucks, sorry but if you think it's good, it certainly is not. Just make prints from both and look at dark areas, well C1 looks just so much better, especially that it renders noise more like film grain than lightroom. Lightroom renders noise as digital artifacts. PFUIIII
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And by all means, I don't think that is something that will be different with S2 files. Lightroom does it with every camera so far and I think it is just the way it works.
Obviously I have a different POV.Well I love lightroom it is great it is fast and to get perfect colors and a finished images is much faster than any other program. I hate C1 compared to it, it feels like using a program that came out 10 years ago.....
However it depends what you need. I will do all the final editing in Lightroom, but for raw conversions Lightroom just sucks, sorry but if you think it's good, it certainly is not. Just make prints from both and look at dark areas, well C1 looks just so much better, especially that it renders noise more like film grain than lightroom. Lightroom renders noise as digital artifacts. PFUIIII
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And by all means, I don't think that is something that will be different with S2 files. Lightroom does it with every camera so far and I think it is just the way it works.
Okay, time to call you on your insulting posts.My observations too! But there are folks out there who obviously do not care about such details.
Maybe their clients love artifacts :angel: Could be a totally new style if you sell it the right way
Speak for yourself. I doubt it includes "a lot of others".
I'd go for the S2 if I could afford it BECAUSE it is set up for Lightroom.
There are a host of really good photographers that use all those other post programs that "suck." What perplexes me is why the end product they produce doesn't also suck? How can that be?
To date, nothing tops LR for speed, flexability and security IMO. Everytime I try to debate the IQ issue with my pal Irakly in favor of C1, he shows me how to achieve the same thing in LR twice as fast and twice as easy. He uses a Phase One back and M8, yet favors LR as the post program. His work sure sure doesn't "suck".
Besides, I could not imagine processing a wedding in C1 ... life is just to short.
Different strokes for different folks.
Isn't that the debate here? The S2 ships with Lightroom, and there are those who think it lessens the value of the S2 (i.e., price related) because it supposedly will not work with C-1.If folks would like to start a Lightroom vs C1 thread, then lets do it and leave this poor thread to the topic of the S2 and its pricing.