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    One Spring Morning

    HI There
    When I woke this morning, the sun was streaming through the bedroom window, I grabbed the camera and started shooting - the dog got his walk, and I got some pictures:

    Sunny Spring Morning photos

    I seem to have got to grips with the colours on the D3 now, most of these were shot with the 24-70, but one or two with the 70-300 and 14-24.

    Real 'spring' lasts for so few days - right now everything's going green, next week it'll be white, the week after it's yellow, and then it's summer!

    Comments and criticism welcome - please post your own spring shots as well (with apologies to the southern hemisphere! ). Three hours later and it's blowing a gale and pouring with rain

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    Jono-
    I am always so jealous. Your house has the best freaking light ever! But just as much is being able to see the light and capture these images. I've been looking at them for more than a year since "meeting" on DPReview and each series has its own delights. From outside 11,12 and 17 are my favorites.

    What have you done to solve your yellows/greens? Is it a preset for all shots or just for certain times of day/circumstances? Would love to see if it would apply to the D300.

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    Jono-
    I am always so jealous. Your house has the best freaking light ever! But just as much is being able to see the light and capture these images. I've been looking at them for more than a year since "meeting" on DPReview and each series has its own delights. From outside 11,12 and 17 are my favorites.

    What have you done to solve your yellows/greens? Is it a preset for all shots or just for certain times of day/circumstances? Would love to see if it would apply to the D300.
    Hi Terry
    The light - yes, enough windows is the thing I think:

    Here's the kitchen:



    and this is the bedroom:



    Both taken with the 14-24.

    As for the greens - I have abandoned AWB and use daylight or tungsten, and then sort from then on (at the very worst it gives you a level playing field).

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    Well, the window in my living room is 11 feet wide and in the bedroom simply huge at 13' wide but sadly they both face north so good light for everything but these sorts of photos that I love.

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    Jono,

    I'll second everything Terry has said. Love the entire series, your ability to see and capture the light is amazing. Totally charmed by the still life work, simply beautiful stuff. And the horses, my goodness, splendid.

    Your work makes me happy to be alive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    Well, the window in my living room is 11 feet wide and in the bedroom simply huge at 13' wide but sadly they both face north so good light for everything but these sorts of photos that I love.
    My office windows are like that - one faces west, the other east .

    the two rooms in the pictures each have 5 windows, and the extension itself is facing south, so light comes in all day long (yum).

    Mind you, we have north facing windows as well, and they get beautiful evening sunlight in the summer time (don't yours?)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joan View Post
    Jono,

    I'll second everything Terry has said. Love the entire series, your ability to see and capture the light is amazing. Totally charmed by the still life work, simply beautiful stuff. And the horses, my goodness, splendid.

    Your work makes me happy to be alive.

    Best,
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    Oh! Joan I'm really touched. Mornings like this morning are to be treasured, if I've managed to get a little of that feeling across, then I've succeeded indeed (the dog was pleased too!).

    Thank you - you couldn't have said anything nicer!

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    Very enjoyable series! Hard to imagine getting that many good shots in one morning...

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    What a mess!

    Rooms with characters!

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    Oh yes spring, finally the light
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    My office windows are like that - one faces west, the other east .

    the two rooms in the pictures each have 5 windows, and the extension itself is facing south, so light comes in all day long (yum).

    Mind you, we have north facing windows as well, and they get beautiful evening sunlight in the summer time (don't yours?)
    perhaps I would if someone were to tear down the building directly across the street that blocks the direct sunshine summer and winter. I guess if I stop buying cameras and lenses I could get a penthouse higher than everyone else.

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    one more fence
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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Hi Jono
    The Spring Morning Series is LUSH / Lovely Colors...... nice subtleties in the range of tones ....truly Lovely
    but where is a shot of the Dog
    Best ! helen

    BONDO
    great shot as well
    Did you post any info about the MB in FS thread ? how much ?
    Thanks .....Best, helen

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    Beautiful dreamy pictures of the morning light, Jono, all of them. My ultimate favourite is # 10, it's like still being in the middle of a nightdream. I often find myself shooting good light rather than a specific subject, and I love early morning light better than anything else. I even prefer it to late afternoon light, but maybe I'm just fooled by the fact that in general I feel better in the early morning than in late afternoon ? Or could it be influenced by the coolness in the air, after the night ? Do you as well see a difference ? Maybe I end up buying a Seconic WB meter to finally do some scientific investigations of this strange phenomenon

    (Helen, I'm not sure what you mean ? I do mention the camera price in the very first post in my "FS: Black M8" thread, if that is what you mean. English is not my native language, and especially I have problems with the many acronyms floating around. By the way, finally a sale seems to be pending, of the camera body only. Please post any questions or send me an email or a PM if you want further informations).

    Here's one more with magic spring light. ZF 1.4/50mm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    perhaps I would if someone were to tear down the building directly across the street that blocks the direct sunshine summer and winter. I guess if I stop buying cameras and lenses I could get a penthouse higher than everyone else.
    Dynamite is obviously the answer Terry - I'm sure you can arrange it!

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    Gromitspapa - Vivek - thanks for responding - glad you like the shots.
    As for the mess. . . . well, I'd prefer to call it 'busy'! Actually, Emma had just had a new saddle delivered, and, of course, it was necessary to unpack it in the kitchen.

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    Quote Originally Posted by helenhill View Post
    Hi Jono
    The Spring Morning Series is LUSH / Lovely Colors...... nice subtleties in the range of tones ....truly Lovely
    but where is a shot of the Dog
    Best ! helen
    HI Helen
    Thank you - here's the dog (last two with M8, First one with D3)






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    Beautiful dreamy pictures of the morning light, Jono, all of them. My ultimate favourite is # 10, it's like still being in the middle of a nightdream. I often find myself shooting good light rather than a specific subject, and I love early morning light better than anything else. I even prefer it to late afternoon light, but maybe I'm just fooled by the fact that in general I feel better in the early morning than in late afternoon ? Or could it be influenced by the coolness in the air, after the night ? Do you as well see a difference ? Maybe I end up buying a Seconic WB meter to finally do some scientific investigations of this strange phenomenon
    HI Bondo

    Thank you - the horses in no 10 really were asleep I think - rather strange to look at.

    Several Lovely shots, but perleeeaaase stop showing pictures with that Zeiss lens - I WANT one! Actually, what I really want is the 100mm macro, but it's sooo expensive, and the Nikon version with AF and VR is also tempting, and less than half the price.

    Morning light always seems to me to be 'pink', whereas evening light is more orange - I love them both, but like you I prefer morning light (persuading myself out of bed is a different matter!)

    I also love your lane shot, Graham Sutherland's Entrance to a Lane had a profound effect on me when I was a kid, and I'm always trying to capture that certain something.
    Graham Sutherland's Green Lane Shot

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    Jono,

    Really nice series. I like the numbers 9, 13 and 18. I also love these light green times of spring when everything just start growing again.

    I attached photo I which I tried to show this fragile first step of nature.

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    Jono, I liked the pics as well. My place is a bigger mess than yours and would not dare to show in public.

    Here is a spring image.



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    In Florida, we don't get Spring or Fall light like up North where the light streaks across the sky. The up side is that our winters are 72 degrees and sunny.

    Great shots.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dfarkas View Post
    In Florida, we don't get Spring or Fall light like up North where the light streaks across the sky. The up side is that our winters are 72 degrees and sunny.

    Great shots.
    Thank you David - for the next 5 months I wouldn't swap . . . . and then I would!
    Maybe another house in Florida is the answer

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    It's afternoon now, and we're late to get Spring. The first colors are just starting to show. Here's an attempt at shooting the 75lux with lens almost wide open.
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    Hi TR
    I'm only on my iPhone but that 75 lux shot looks gorgeous from here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TRSmith;
    It's afternoon now, and we're late to get Spring. The first colors are just starting to show. Here's an attempt at shooting the 75lux with lens almost wide open.
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    Terry and Helen: Thank you! I am really starting to enjoy the 75 and its dreamy oof stuff. Second glass of red and all I can say is ain't Spring grand!

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    That's lovely Terry

    I'm afraid I cracked with the 105 nikkor today (part way through a 420 mile drive to collect Sim from University)

    Here's my first shot with it:

    Pear Blossom at f5


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    Just a little sunshine this morning.

    This is a tulip (of course!)


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    You evil man!!! I've woken to raindrops the last two mornings.

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    You evil man!!! I've woken to raindrops the last two mornings.
    I certainly am (an evil man), but it's clouded over now (if that's any consolation).

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    Congrats Jono, obviously your new 105mm VR Micro-Nikkor works perfectly. I want one, but for the moment I try hard to only sell stuff and not buy anything before we see what shows up at Photokina. Inspired by your beautiful "Spring Morning Light Through Tulip" I had to go tulip hunting in the garden and see what I could do with my ZF 1.4/85mm. It's definitely not a macro lens, shortest focusing range is 1 meter. Furthermore the ultra short distances are known not to be its favourite range. Anyway here goes, one has to use what one has got ...















    It's not a Macro lens, but I like spring. A lot
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    Re: One Spring Morning

    And here are some Magnolia Spring Lights.





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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Tulips and Magnolias - how lovely
    Damn horse eat our magnolia tree!
    Do you think you need to pull back the exposure a little on the magnolias (or do a highlight adjustment - it might be my monitor, but you seem to have lost a bit of detail there.

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    You are completely right, and it's not your monitor. Funny thing is that I actually underexposed the captures by 1/3 or 2/3 stop in the first place exactly to avoid blown out areas, though apparently not enough. But then in post I got tempted to crank up the contrast a bit by levels in order to add some "pop", stupid me
    Now I have tried to rescue what could be rescued. Hope that helps a bit. Thanks Jono.
    Btw. I understand your horses, these spring flowers look soo crisp and tasty I'm tempted to bite in them myself and I believe I have also seen cats and dogs tew on tulips ? Probably our destiny if we are irresistible

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Hope it's not too trivial to show snapshots of 'pretty flowers in gentle spring light'.
    But in lack of a true macro lens I can't resist playing a bit with the ZF 85mm now that finally spring is here with the usual explosion of flowers. Just love to inhale this light with some photographic machinery.
    These blue flowers are Forget-Me-Not, nothing special here.



    But look at the Forget-Me-Not making the blue out of focus background for this Snake's Head Fritillary ...



    I think the bokeh of the 1.4/85mm is quite smooth. All these flower shots are of course heavily cropped (close to actual pixels) since the shortest focusing range of this lens is 1 meter.
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    Re: One Spring Morning

    These are lovely - especially the fritillary (I need to brush up my names)
    One thing - you wont need to wait for Photokina; Nikon never make their announcements at the big shows these days - expect information in the second week of June.

    Still, I think the Nikon macro lenses are settled - I can't see them bringing out another one (unless it's a 150 with the Nano coating).

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    ... second week of June
    in that case I need to quickly sell some more stuff
    because I want an "AFS 4/300 VRII", please Nikon
    and an "AFS 85mm" or an "AFS 135 VRII" like Jorgen suggested in another thread
    and also I'm contemplating the ZF 2/100 Makro-Planar
    and ... now let me see, what can I sell next

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Still one week left of Spring. Sunrise lighting seen from our balcony, WB on Daylight as told From this morning at 05:14
    Maybe not an interesting motive, but I can't resist capturing good light when I see it. I love this time of the year, and I so much wish it would last longer.



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    HI Steen
    Lovely view - how did you do the White balance? On my monitor the sunlight on the building is too yellow, lacks the pink tinge I'd expect to see on an early morning (of course, it could be my monitor, or it could be your morning sunlight!).

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    I agree it looks totally wild. On the other hand I rushed for the tripod and the camera for a reason. When the sun rises or goes down, the lighting changes so fast you really have to act quickly to get what you see and sometimes can hardly believe yourself.
    When I open the file in NX and open Base Adjustments >> RAW Adjustments >> White Balance, i can see the setting Direct Sunlight with no tint used, but I can't see the used Kelvin temperature which is rather annoying.
    If I then choose Calculate Automatically instead of Recorded Value it sets a Kelvin of 4500 and immediately changes the colour balance a bit. The enlightened building does get a slightly more convincing and digestible colour, a bit less yellow, BUT unfortunately the white wall to the left turns more blue white and the black roof in the bottom of the image turns more blue black as well, i.e. they change to the cooler side and I think it spoils the total scenery a bit. I do remember it as insanely warm like pure gold poured out onto the building.
    I think all I did to the file was I gave it a somewhat darkening curve because it was a bit blown out. Anyway, I am really a jerk with post processing so I'll let all of you take a look at the NEF file for yourself.
    http://www.mediafire.com/?jczpbj8k2w3
    Feel free to post your take on it. I can always choose to be stubborn and overrule you by saying "I was there, I know what I saw"
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    Re: One Spring Morning

    try 4981 and a tint of -5
    see how that works out.

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Nop, with those values used in NX it tuns into a completely pink catastrophy.
    Obviously we cannot transpose (do you have that word in english ) WB values from one RAW converter to another.
    Guess you need to post your take on it you use Aperture, right ?

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Hi Steen
    yes, I use aperture



    I used the wb that seems to be the default on Aperture (i.e. 4981 -5) and then dropped the exposure - I could have raised the shadows a bit (maybe I'll do that in a minute.

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    lifted the shadows a bit:



    This is your original



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    Re: One Spring Morning

    I probably have to surrender colourwise, I realize my version must have been too insanely and screaming yellow, but I think the perfect solution would have to let the shadows stay rather deep and let the light on the building stay rather bright so that the "fairy tale castle" keeps shining / glowing in a strange and magic way.
    At least that was what woke me up and made me head for a tripod and a camera. I'm sure you can see out of the crazy NEF file that I was met by a rather uncommon view this early morning.
    Anyway, thanks for your efforts with the file, Jono
    Here in Denmark GMT+1 it is now midnight and bed time, so I'll sleep on it and deside your destiny tomorrow

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    Re: One Spring Morning

    Jono, you were completely right about dropping the exposure, actually that's all it takes. Basicly there's nothing wrong with the White Balance. The building surface was simply blown out, and this was what made the yellow go crazy.
    If only I had chosen spot-metering, it probably wouldn't have happened.

    Here is the image with EV -1 and immediately all colours behave nicely. Only one could argue that now the shadows become very deep, close to black.




    I then tried to apply D-lighting, and basicly this looks ok apart from one problem. Now the shadow on the top right of the buildig turns light grey instead of dark grey. That's not really good, so I think maybe for now I prefer the pure EV -1 with the dark shadows.



    Anyway, I'll keep the file. Its an interesting test situation, and I suspect Lars' "Joeye" project might turn out to be the ideal answer to exactly a post processing situation like this

    Thanks for your help with all this, Jono !

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    Hi Steen
    Well . . . I still think it's too yellow, but I agree that the higher contrast is good, and perhaps you just need to allow an old man his obsession about this! My experience of morning light is that it's pinker than evening light, and I think the daylight conversion shows this better . . . of course, you were there, so you would know.

    I'm never very keen on d-lighting myself, or perhaps I've never learned to use it very well, it seems to push the shadows and leave a gap in the middle.

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    overruled, I was there, and besides I am 58

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    overruled, I was there, and besides I am 58
    Ah - okay then it's definitely a case of age before beauty (I'm only 55 3/4)

    . . . . still think it's too yellow though

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    pf ... stubborn youngster

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