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    Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Hi There
    Well, in a quest to discover whether it's the lens or the camera which frightens the victims I bought this as a small lens to go on the front of the D3.

    I'm not sure that 'dinky' is exactly the word that springs to mind, but it seems to go nicely on the D3:


    (apologies for the muddy camera - not up to Marc's standards I'm afraid!)

    Build quality is splendid - all metal with a rubber focus sleeve - the focusing ring is smooth as butter and quite even throughout (quite a long throw). I think it's a rather lovely piece of design - the metal lens hood is also fine (not pictured here). At 206+vat from Robert White it seems to me to be a fine bargain

    The fact that the lens is also chipped means that it reports the aperture correctly. If you set the aperture on the lens to f16 then the you can set the aperture as normal on the camera (setting at anything else produces an EE on the camera's top screen). It would be nice if there was a lock on the aperture ring.

    In fact, there is nothing different from any Nikon lens except that it's manual focus - focus confirmation works well, and I find it very easy to focus, even in dim light with the standard D3 screen:


    (1/60th f1.4 ISO 640)


    (1/60th f1.4 ISO 450) (this is the only cropped shot of the group)
    It's worth noticing that the lloyd loom chair can produce a very gritty bokeh - it's done well here.


    (1/60th f1.4 ISO 720)

    I also think that the bokeh is pleasant, even with fundamentally busy backgrounds:

    (1/60th f1.4 ISO 200)

    It's hardly a macro lens, but it does focus down to .45 of a metre giving a ratio of 1:5.8 - quite useable for flowers and small objects:


    (1/1000th f1.4 ISO 200)


    (1/400th f1.4 ISO 200)


    Finally, a couple just because I like 'em!


    (1/1250th f1.4 ISO 200)



    (1/2500th f1.4 ISO 200)

    I haven't found anyone to point it at yet, I'll report back on that later, initial response is very favorable - I'll post a few more stopped down a bit when I can persuade myself to get off that f1.4!

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Jono, please don't ... "persuade yourself to get off that f1.4"
    These initial captures look *very* promising, indeed.
    Can't believe you simply mount your new Nokton and just nail it at f/1.4
    Obviously the focus plane is razor thin.
    My main reason for wanting the larger FX sensor some day, is the larger viewfinder for such challenging manual focus.
    Lots of envy
    /Steen
    P.S. Re the final couple, I like them too. A lot.
    If they were mine I couldn't resist to print and hang up the first one of them
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    Congrats Jono and nice shots. I don't know if it's the same on the D3 as the D300, but you might try going to custom setting menu, then scroll to F, then to F7-custom comand dials, then to aperture settings and set it to aperture ring. Then you can use the lens aperture ring. I can't seem to figure out how to use live view at the same time, but it's nice to be able to change f stops on the lens again, sort of like having a real camera.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    So, Jono, I've been thinking about this lens for portraits on the D300. Have you tried it on that body and if so, is it difficult to focus wide open without looking at the green dot?

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    HI Clay
    Thanks for the F7 suggestion . . . . but no thanks! I did try it, but I'm so used to using the sub control dial.

    As for the focus confirmation . . . it seems to me that my eye is more accurate in most circumstances at f1.4 than the green dot (it has helpful arrows on each side on the D3).

    Mind you, I think I might just be lucky - I don't find manual focusing a problem with any of the lenses on the D3 - I rather like the fact that you don't need to specify a focusing point if you aren't bothering with the dot. I don't have a D300 I'm afraid, but I don't see why it would be much harder?

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    Jono, please don't ... "persuade yourself to get off that f1.4"
    These initial captures look *very* promising, indeed.
    Can't believe you simply mount your new Nokton and just nail it at f/1.4
    Obviously the focus plane is razor thin.
    My main reason for wanting the larger FX sensor some day, is the larger viewfinder for such challenging manual focus.
    Lots of envy
    /Steen
    P.S. Re the final couple, I like them too. A lot.
    If they were mine I couldn't resist to print and hang up the first one of them
    HI Steen
    erm . . . I didn't nail all of them! To be honest I didn't find it difficult, but I don't find focusing on the M8 difficult either . . . I think it must be something to do with my aging eyesight; I focus by determination rather than actually seeing

    As for envy - just follow that Jurgen around - he lives in Holland, and he's going to rob a bank - wait till he comes out and nick the dosh.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Hi There
    It was real 'new lens weather' today
    The D3 takes such things in it's stride!

    a couple more:


    1/60th ISO 2200 f10


    1/60th ISO 280 f4.5

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Now you just have to get yourself one of these to go with it! I think this one can be classified as 'dinky'.
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    Greg - I remember Mark Norton [or maybe Marc Andrews?] on the Leica User Forum posting an image of his monster Canon 1Ds looming over his M8 convincing me that the M8 was for me, and your image of the D3 and in-yer-face zoom alongside the D300 and Voigtlander 'pancake' 40mm lens has had a similar effect. I've been considering the D300/'pancake' combination for myself, the lens is a cousin of Jono's 58 so I hope he won't mind me asking if you could give any feedback on using the lens on the D300 in particular.

    Clay Stewart's post No.3, and Jono's reply surprised me. Not having yet tried a manual lens on Nikon I had assumed that one set the aperture via the aperture ring. I had not realised that one could set lens aperture with the sub-command dial - that's a big bonus, and I like that.

    Jono - I'm enjoying your posts. I don't know how the rest of the world looks at this time of year, but I suspect that you too are intoxicated by the extraordinary greens we get here in the UK every Spring. Coming out of Winter we know the greens are coming, and yet the colour always seems that much richer, complex, and more beautiful than what is expected. Just an aside. More pictures please.

    ......................... Chris

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Looks to me to be the smallest Nikon DSLR: D40 or D40x, or the latest successor D60 ?
    D300 is larger than this.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris C View Post
    Greg - I remember Mark Norton [or maybe Marc Andrews?] on the Leica User Forum posting an image of his monster Canon 1Ds looming over his M8 convincing me that the M8 was for me, and your image of the D3 and in-yer-face zoom alongside the D300 and Voigtlander 'pancake' 40mm lens has had a similar effect. I've been considering the D300/'pancake' combination for myself, the lens is a cousin of Jono's 58 so I hope he won't mind me asking if you could give any feedback on using the lens on the D300 in particular.

    Clay Stewart's post No.3, and Jono's reply surprised me. Not having yet tried a manual lens on Nikon I had assumed that one set the aperture via the aperture ring. I had not realised that one could set lens aperture with the sub-command dial - that's a big bonus, and I like that.

    Jono - I'm enjoying your posts. I don't know how the rest of the world looks at this time of year, but I suspect that you too are intoxicated by the extraordinary greens we get here in the UK every Spring. Coming out of Winter we know the greens are coming, and yet the colour always seems that much richer, complex, and more beautiful than what is expected. Just an aside. More pictures please.

    ......................... Chris
    Hi Chris,

    Steen is right, it's the D40x. The D300 is pretty much in-between these extremes in size.

    Focusing is pretty easy, if you want you can rely on the focus confirmation light which is more of a requirement on the D40x since the viewfinder is not as large or bright as it's bigger brothers. One trick I've found that makes all the difference when using the confirmation light to focus is to trust it just as it comes on when you are focusing from closer towards infinity rather than the other way around since there is some slop in between.

    The aperture can indeed be set using the camera rather than the lens.

    This lens is tons of fun to use on any of the Nikons. It's sharp wide open. The bokeh is a little busy but generally not bad.

    I'll dig up some photos from it and post them later.

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    A few from the Voigtlander 40mm f/2

    Here's a few random samples.
    Last edited by Greg Seitz; 14th October 2010 at 07:22.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg Seitz View Post
    ... it's the D40x....
    Greg - Damn. Silly me. Thank you for replying, and the additional images. The 40mm 'pancake' looks an interesting size and focal length, for both Nikon formats.

    .............. Chris

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Some more sample from Nikon D3 + Ultron 40mm SL II




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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    HI There
    I have to fight back against the 40 ultron battle.
    So, here are a couple of shots using the SLII 58 as a kind of macro noctilux substitute - it has that odd dreamy feel that I get from both the noctilux (and the zeiss sonnar).

    I think they're all shot at f1.4 and focused simply on screen (not using focus confirmation).











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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Can anyone post some comparable shots with the Zeiss 50mm f/2 Makro? I would like to compare the bokeh of that lens vs. the CV 58mm.
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Well, I have used both the 58 1.4 and the 40 2.0 and thought both to be quite good. Only issue for me was that the 40 seemed to have a different color rendition than the 58 and I believe in comparison to the nikkor lenses the 58 was the more accurate. However the overall image quality from the 40 was great and with the D300 what a nice compact package.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Well, based on what I've seen here and on flickr, I have gone ahead and ordered a 58mm from Stephen Gandy over at CameraQuest. Hopefully it will be here this weekend!
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Well, my lens arrived today. And of course it is raining cats, dogs, pigs, frogs and giraffes. So here is my first shot with it and not a sponsored product endorsement:



    I focussed on the "E" in "Lime". The bokeh looks pretty good. I will know more when I do some actual portraits.

    Has anyone tried the Katzeye Split Image Microprism screens for the D300? I am contemplating getting one for this lens.

    Also, what size lens cap does the LH-58 lens hood take? The included lens cap is too small for the lens hood.
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

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    Well, my lens arrived today. And of course it is raining cats, dogs, pigs, frogs and giraffes.
    Congratulations . . . but with such interesting stuff going on outside, what on earth are you doing shooting pictures of tin cans? You obviously don't have the PJ spirit - Jack would've been out there photographing those giraffes coming down out of the sky.

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Has anyone tried the Katzeye Split Image Microprism screens for the D300? I am contemplating getting one for this lens.

    Also, what size lens cap does the LH-58 lens hood take? The included lens cap is too small for the lens hood.
    I must say, I've found focusing pretty okay with the screen on the D3 - I've been testing by focusing before getting the confirmation, and I seem to have it down every time.

    I'd like to know about the lens hood though - it's a nice lens hood, but a bore without a cap.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Severe Thunderstorm warnings today and Florida is the Lightning Capital of the Earth (20,000 strikes per day). PJ spirit I have, blithering idiot I am not.

    Anyway the quest for subject matter has led to the inevitable cat picture:

    I caught this shot of Her Majesty snoozing on our bed. Shooing her off does no good, she knows she's in charge.

    The lens appears to be quite sharp, and even at f5 (the setting the Metz set the camera to) there is pretty nice bokeh. The flash was in bounce mode with the built-in diffuser deployed.
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Okay Carlos
    I'll let you off this time!

    I'm still loving this lens - it's lovely for working indoors, here are a couple from yesterday in our kitchen:

    Olive Oil



    Anyone for Ginger and Lemon tea? (the garlic isn't compulsory!)



    Both taken with natural sunlight at f9

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Lovely shots, Jono, particularly the last one.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Jono,
    nice work as always. BTW, a 67mm snap-in cap works perfectly with the LH-58 hood. They are readily available in local stores but more cheaply on the 'bay.
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3


    D300 + Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII w/PK 11 and 12 stacked
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Carlos, Jono & Cindy........DIVINE & DREAMY
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Quote Originally Posted by Cindy Flood View Post

    D300 + Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII w/PK 11 and 12 stacked
    Cindy, the URL of your lilac image changed.
    It's here now:


    Forgive me for being dense: PK 11 & 12 Stacked?

    Jono:
    I have to say your kitchen is far more picturesque than mine. With six of us at home the place is more like a restaurant than the "heart of the home". I hope to have ours redone sometime later this year.
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Carlos: PK 11 and 12 are 8mm and 14mm Nikon extension tubes that I use for close focusing this lens.
    Sorry about the link to my photo... I fixed it now.
    Nice kitty portrait...congratulations on the new lens.

    Helen, Thank you.

    Jono, both of your shots have so much character...they are marvelous.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Works now, I noticed that you mention Florida as one of your locations. Where, pray tell, are you in the Sunshine State (when you are not in Arizona or Wisconsin)?
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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    OK here's something different with the 58mm: light painting. First and second try.



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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Carlos, Helen, Cindy
    thank you - our kitchen is not finished yet . . . . we started it in 1991!
    It's lovely though, a higgledy piggledy mass of books / magazines / sculptures / paintings / cats / food / very old wood and sunshine (windows on 3 sides).

    Emma is the kitchen artist, I'm just the poor interpretive hack . . . mind you, I get into terrible trouble if there's too much dust . . the Olive oil bottle was whipped away from me, dusted and then replaced before I could get a shot in

    Cindy, you lilac is lovely and subdued, and Carlos, the painting in light seems like the start of a brave venture . . . I gave my tripod away, so I can't do that!

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    I'm growing Columbine for the Hummingbirds that stop by (I hope!). D300+ Voigtlander 58 Nokton + PK 11 + PK 12 (tubes).

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Well, based on what I've seen here and on flickr, I have gone ahead and ordered a 58mm from Stephen Gandy over at CameraQuest. Hopefully it will be here this weekend!
    I've been shooting the 58/1.4 and recently did some comparisons with the NOCT-Nikkor for overall image quality (I need to do more work on the bokeh aspect). When time allows I'll be writing up my findings. In brief though, the 58/1.4 (ignoring the price difference of about ~$2000 vs a used NOCT) is a vastly superior lens for most uses. The Voigtlander 58/1.4 does have some peculiarities though, including strong field curvature, which makes it a very bad match for some subjects (or very good for others).

    I'd say the Voigtlander 58/1.4 is one of the best bargains available today in the manual focus lens categoroy in that focal length range.

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    Re: Voigtlander 58 1.4 SLII on D3

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    I've been shooting the 58/1.4 and recently did some comparisons with the NOCT-Nikkor for overall image quality (I need to do more work on the bokeh aspect). When time allows I'll be writing up my findings. In brief though, the 58/1.4 (ignoring the price difference of about ~$2000 vs a used NOCT) is a vastly superior lens for most uses. The Voigtlander 58/1.4 does have some peculiarities though, including strong field curvature, which makes it a very bad match for some subjects (or very good for others).

    I'd say the Voigtlander 58/1.4 is one of the best bargains available today in the manual focus lens categoroy in that focal length range.
    I'll be looking forward to your review. I love my copy for most subjects.

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    Saturday afternoon with D3 + Nokton...



    Andree

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    HI Andree
    I'm enjoying these - your new friend likes to have her picture taken?

    Just this guy you know

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    Hi Andree

    Tres Sultry & Seductive ......your Casual shot.....Lovely Dress Too

    Best -H

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    yes, lately she has been the bait in Andree's Hidden Advertising of Morris Mini cars

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    Hahahahaha you guys are really funny..!! LOL
    She can speak a little Indonesian language and english, she is originally from Russia (Niyara is her name)
    I don't know what is she doing in Indonesia...
    But one thing for sure, she likes to have her picture taken

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