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    Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    Hi there
    of course, I'm well known for my street photography, but an hour walking around Cambridge today gave me a shot or two - the D3 with the 24-70 is hardly a stealth camera, but it was what I had with me.

    I hope these at least raise a smile:







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    I just love number 3 . Camera's are camera's and whatever works in the street is a good thing. Personally i think it has more to do with the shooters attitude and way about them that counts for 90 percent of it. Obviously the smaller camera's maybe easier to handle and not look like you are pointing a robot at someone but it really is the dude behind the camera that makes it work or not
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    I like number 4...looks like sculpture...
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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    I've generally found that the lens has a lot to do with it. A huge camera with a small lens is less intimidating that a small camera with a huge lens. This is within DSLRs. Freud would have a field day with this.

    The M8 is stealthy all by itself (not counting film M bodies) and it's retro look is very disarming. My D300 + MB-D10 with the CV 58mm is not as intimidating as when I put the 18-200 on with it zoomed out all of the way.

    Guy is also correct in saying that the photog's attitude is a huge contributing factor. Acting calmly and unobtrusively keeps everyone relaxed. Personally, I think all photographers need to study ninjutsu.

    Just my observation.
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    Fun images, Jono.

    I don't normally do this. This one was an exception.

    (No street, no D3, well, I no photographer. )



    M8, Stealth?

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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    Number 3 is... what on earth is he looking for? Great!

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    Here's an addition to the theme... slightly off-theme maybe, but still.

    S3 with 80-200 AF-S


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    Hi there Jonoslack, I'm a new member here but I liked them all. Just wish people were not as skittish here after 9-11, but maybe things will change.

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    Jorgen,
    what software are you using to create the frames around your photos?
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    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    Jorgen,
    what software are you using to create the frames around your photos?
    My secret weapon: Photoshop

    Here's how I do it:

    - Resize photo to display size (Bicubic sharper). I mostly use 800px longest side for internet display purposes, and all variables below refer to that size.
    - Select all
    - Copy
    - Paste

    Now you have 2 identical layers

    - Make new layer between the two existing ones
    - Increase canvas size slightly for the thin line. I mostly increase by 0.15cm each direction.
    - Fill new layer with white (or any other colour)
    - Make new layer between background layer and white layer
    - Increase canvas size for frame. I mostly increase by 3cm each direction
    - Fill new layer with white or any other colour
    - Select top white layer
    - Make drop shadow (layer, layer style, drop shadow). I mostly use the parameters 50%, 130 degrees (or depending on the light in the photo), 2px, 8px, 16px (optional)
    - Add text in separate layers
    - Save as .psd (for later modifications)
    - Change to sRGB (flattens the image)
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    Editing should be done on the top layer only. Cloning is better done before making the frame. Most other things can be done in the end, and I often do curves, saturation and sharpening after I do the frame.

    It may look a bit complicated, but it takes less than 60 seconds once you get the routine sorted

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    Photo #3 - you can't help but wonder what the gent (who looks like he's having fun) is trying to photograph: a duck?, a pretty 20 yr. old?, his wife? His expression also contrasts with the more melancholy one on the dude holding the railing down.

    The photogs stance is also interesting. He may have just been reacting to seeing your camera (people always duck 6" from some reason), but the possibility that he's trying to grab a shot of some sort is more compelling ;>

    Jorgen - the S3 does deliver some nice color (and clarity). Tempted by the S5 yet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I just love number 3 . Camera's are camera's and whatever works in the street is a good thing. Personally i think it has more to do with the shooters attitude and way about them that counts for 90 percent of it. Obviously the smaller camera's maybe easier to handle and not look like you are pointing a robot at someone but it really is the dude behind the camera that makes it work or not
    Guy - thank you - I wasn't really out to take photos, or I probably would have had an M with me, still, as you say, if it works!

    Quote Originally Posted by mwalker View Post
    I like number 4...looks like sculpture...
    Thank you Mike - I liked that one best as well, although I thought they looked like they were dancers.

    Quote Originally Posted by etrigan63 View Post
    I've generally found that the lens has a lot to do with it. A huge camera with a small lens is less intimidating that a small camera with a huge lens. This is within DSLRs. Freud would have a field day with this.

    The M8 is stealthy all by itself (not counting film M bodies) and it's retro look is very disarming. My D300 + MB-D10 with the CV 58mm is not as intimidating as when I put the 18-200 on with it zoomed out all of the way.

    Guy is also correct in saying that the photog's attitude is a huge contributing factor. Acting calmly and unobtrusively keeps everyone relaxed. Personally, I think all photographers need to study ninjutsu.

    Just my observation.
    Hi Carlos
    I couldn't agree more - my son reckons that it's largely to do with the amount of visible face with the M8 . . . I just think that it looks like some oldfashioned camera and people don't find it threatening.
    As you say - Freud would have a field day!

    Hi Vivek
    Thank you - and your picture of the girl with the camera is lovely - she has front teeth just like my son!

    Jorgen
    Thank you - what indeed (actually, I know, but it's much too mundane to write down).

    Your shot is lovely - such colour - did you have a polariser on?

    Quote Originally Posted by reggiec View Post
    Hi there Jonoslack, I'm a new member here but I liked them all. Just wish people were not as skittish here after 9-11, but maybe things will change.
    HI Reggie - and W E L C O M E. It's a nice calm place around here. I so rarely go into the big city that I hardly know . . and maybe it worked in my favour, but in Cambridge everyone is taking pictures at this time of year, so that certainly helps.

    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Photo #3 - you can't help but wonder what the gent (who looks like he's having fun) is trying to photograph: a duck?, a pretty 20 yr. old?, his wife? His expression also contrasts with the more melancholy one on the dude holding the railing down.

    The photogs stance is also interesting. He may have just been reacting to seeing your camera (people always duck 6" from some reason), but the possibility that he's trying to grab a shot of some sort is more compelling ;>

    Jorgen - the S3 does deliver some nice color (and clarity). Tempted by the S5 yet?
    HI Rob
    I think it was a pretty 20 year old! But the question is so much more important than the answer!

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    Admittedly a poor picture. This is two thirds of the wedding crew at my Son'e wedding last weekend.
    I bet the glass behind the table will give them fits.
    They were a bit uncomfortable on the other side of the camera and felt a little outgunned.
    Watching them reminded me why I don't even contemplate shooting weddings.
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    This is really a fun thread.
    Jono, I too like the "dancers" best, but the man on the bridge looking for the shot is interesting.
    Bob, Were those ladies using MF? It looks like the camera strap says Mamiya.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi there
    of course, I'm well known for my street photography, but an hour walking around Cambridge today gave me a shot or two - the D3 with the 24-70 is hardly a stealth camera, but it was what I had with me.

    I hope these at least raise a smile
    honestly, i burst out laughing when i saw these pictures!

    i love them. they're quite special

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    Quote Originally Posted by robmac View Post
    Jorgen - the S3 does deliver some nice color (and clarity). Tempted by the S5 yet?
    I'm very happy with the output from the S3, and yes, I'm very tempted by the S5, but it's not easy to find one here in Bangkok I do keep looking though.

    Jono,
    No polarizer, I don't own a 77mm one. Every time I consider buying one, I end up thinking "wow... for that money, I can almost buy a new lens".

    In your photo number 3, before I got my glasses on, I thought the person to the right was the photographer's wife, looking grumpy and thinking "why can't he finish taking photos of the girls, so that we can go home...".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Vivek
    Thank you - and your picture of the girl with the camera is lovely - she has front teeth just like my son!
    Hi Jono, That is my son (8 years) in one of his "super hero" costumes that he stays in all the time. Don't know why we bother buying regular cloths for him!

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegrumpymonk View Post
    honestly, i burst out laughing when i saw these pictures!

    i love them. they're quite special
    Thank you - I'm flattered, it isn't really my genre, but we live and learn

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    Hi Jono, That is my son (8 years) in one of his "super hero" costumes that he stays in all the time. Don't know why we bother buying regular cloths for him!
    Sorry to get the sex wrong - Emma knew he was a boy straight away!.
    Superman gear is much better than regular stuff. Mind you, you should see our 20 year old's boxers!

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    Great shots Jono.

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    Great images Jono, you should go to town more often! I particularly like no 3, the Rodin-esque stoic figure to the right juxtaposed with the ducking photograper.

    Here's another in the same vein (photographing the Photographer(s)). Although taken with a M8, I suppose content comes before equipment

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    I don't know what they were shooting, but the stance that the women's holding looks hellishly uncomfortable for doing ANYTHING let alone taking a picture.

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    I wouldn't post a picture (even captured accidentally) of any woman caught in such a pose.

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    Does anyone ever get on there knees anymore. Geez
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vivek View Post
    I wouldn't post a picture (even captured accidentally) of any woman caught in such a pose.
    Actually probably the only way she can bend down without splitting those extremely tight jeans she is wearing
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Does anyone ever get on there knees anymore. Geez
    LOL - well, that's the advantage of an E3 - (flip out LCD and live view). Me? my trousers ALWAYS have dirty knees, and, my elbows are always dirty too (yep, I lie on the ground as well).

    As for that lady's pose, well, possibly the three of them aren't quite style icons (at least she's putting some effort into it!).

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    My humble contribution to the genre (from Kyoto, Japan):


    I call it "Tradition and Modernity".

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    Lisa, that's a beautiful capture!
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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    Here's another one, taken during a bridge opening. All photographers were taking photos of this huge ummmm.... thing, except one. S3 with Tamron 24-135mm:


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    Can't see the pic, Jorgen.

    Nice capture Lisa, although I don't know how modern that is. the girls are photographing themselves with a disposable film camera
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    Here's another one, taken during a bridge opening. All photographers were taking photos of this huge ummmm.... thing, except one. S3 with Tamron 24-135mm:


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    Oooh that looks like the tip of the Royal Roto-Rooter!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arne Hvaring View Post
    Here's another in the same vein (photographing the Photographer(s)). Although taken with a M8, I suppose content comes before equipment
    No IR/UV-Filter?

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    Quote Originally Posted by S.P. View Post
    No IR/UV-Filter?
    Correct, they were back-ordered at the time. I waited for someone to mention it

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    Oh, I just thought it was some fanatic Bordeaux lover

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    Oh, I just thought it was some fanatic Bordeaux lover
    congratulations - I didn't give it a second thought - I guess he looked like the kind of guy who would wear a matching maroon shirt and backpack!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    Oh, I just thought it was some fanatic Bordeaux lover
    That might also be the case, after all they're photographing the vines of Château Prieuré-Lichine in Margaux!
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    This is one of my cohort, Jack. We were covering a retirement party Friday night at Black Water Marina.

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    I really like your #4 photo, Jono! As was said upthread: very sculptural!

    Here's a shot from Stockholm with my two passions; photographer and guitarist:



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    I can't leave this one, also from Stockholm, out of a thread about photographing photographers:



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    Maggie - they are both splendid
    I especially like the second one.

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    Maggie,
    Both of those are good, but the last one is really special. Thank you for sharing.

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    Thank you so much, gents!!

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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    HI Steen
    Lovely photo
    lots of fun on this thread, great to have it revived!

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    D300 • ZF 1.4/85mm • 1/2000 sec. at f/2.8, ISO 200
    This counts as incitement however, and should under no circumstances be allowed.

    I will not buy any more ZF lenses
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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    I'm convinced that Nikon will reveal a lens roadmap at Photokina September 2008, which will make the new Zeiss ZF Distagon T* 3,5/18mm irrelevant for your landscape work with your new D700

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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    Quote Originally Posted by bondo View Post
    I'm convinced that Nikon will reveal a lens roadmap at Photokina September 2008, which will make the new Zeiss ZF Distagon T* 3,5/18mm irrelevant for your landscape work with your new D700
    Hi Steen
    Is this 'because they must' or 'because you know'?

    To be honest, much as I love the zf 25 f2.8, it isn't really as 'good' as the 14-24 in any technical respect, i.e.
    zeiss has:
    more distortion
    more vignetting
    softer corners
    curvier focal plane.

    What it does have is that certain 'je ne sais quoi' about it, and I guess that will be true about the comparison between ZF lenses any new Nikon primes as well.

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    No D3, but a M8 with 35mm summicron asph. Taken in Kyoto, Japan.
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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    obviously not the best quality image, but under the circumstances, a full court press by the tourists[including me, hehe] to see this masterpiece, and despite a sign in multiple languages stating NO Pictures, not too bad overall, and this image is not about ultimate sharpness, but the circumstances and the place....

    also not with a D3 but a lowly XTi....

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    Re: Photographing the Photographer (D3 Street!)

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hi Steen
    Is this 'because they must' or 'because you know'? [snip]
    No, unfortunately it's pure wishful thinking and because I think they ought to make a lens roadmap because of the "hole" in their prime lens lineup. I was just being ironical.
    I think it would be a very wise move to make such a roadmap, still I'm pretty sure it won't happen.
    And while we are waiting for Nikon to wake up and realize that secrecy may not so wise after all, we will still buy more Zeiss ZF and Voigtländer SL lenses. I think all this secrecy is plain stupid when it comes to lens development.
    Pentax on the other hand has been clever enough to make a lens roadmap.
    Let's hope it will at some point be of some inspiration for Nikon. And maybe Leica as well.
    Otherwise we will have to have Gorbatjov teach them some glasnost

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