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    Dpreview review of the D7000

    One word...WOW!

    Another word....WANT!

    I've held in the store and for the first time in a looooong time I've found a DSLR that feels just right to me. Great balance and layout.

    The lens set I saw was no slouch either. With a 12-24mm f4 (18-36mm) and a 24-120mm (36-180mm) range in just two optics and its incredible (from what I saw anyway) high ISO performance to 6400 the versatility is pretty high. So is the DR...a whopping 9.3 eV!

    Spend a little more and get the 24mm f1.4 and 85mm f1.4 if you'd like for two incredible low light primes and you'll really be prepared.

    Ah now to go rob a bank.

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond7000/
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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    I am interested in the D7000 myself as a backup compact DSLR for my FF D700 equipment.

    Issue is that on the Internet you can find many reviews, which are not as bright as the one from DPReviw - unfortunately.

    Not sure what to do - an option would be Pentax K5 but actually I hate to open another system.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    I haven't read every detail but is seemed like they were having some issues with overexposure.... These camera have been out in the wild for a bit. Any word on the street that it is an issue?

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    I am having some issues with focus more then anything else...had it bout a week so far and shot 3k images. so far I like my D300 better....

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I am interested in the D7000 myself as a backup compact DSLR for my FF D700 equipment.

    Issue is that on the Internet you can find many reviews, which are not as bright as the one from DPReviw - unfortunately.

    Not sure what to do - an option would be Pentax K5 but actually I hate to open another system.
    Peter, if you're looking to complement a D700, the D7000 seems like a no-brainer compared to the K-5. Maybe you're overthinking this?

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Reading a dpreview test, most cameras seem to be great. Reading the dpreview forums, all cameras seem to be trash. This forum looks like one of just a handful camera-fora on the internet where I would trust the opinion of those participating in the discussions... did I say a handful? Make that two or three.

    I don't doubt for a second that the D7000 is a great camera. If I was going to choose the K5 instead, it would be because of IBIS or the Limited primes. In other areas, any of the cameras may or may not be slightly better in some areas, but it's a tossup really. They share the same sensor, they both have great ergonomics and a good viewfinder, they are of similar size. It's the lenses, man, the lenses

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Reading a dpreview test, most cameras seem to be great. Reading the dpreview forums, all cameras seem to be trash.
    So true .

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Reading a dpreview test, most cameras seem to be great. Reading the dpreview forums, all cameras seem to be trash. This forum looks like one of just a handful camera-fora on the internet where I would trust the opinion of those participating in the discussions... did I say a handful? Make that two or three.

    I don't doubt for a second that the D7000 is a great camera. If I was going to choose the K5 instead, it would be because of IBIS or the Limited primes. In other areas, any of the cameras may or may not be slightly better in some areas, but it's a tossup really. They share the same sensor, they both have great ergonomics and a good viewfinder, they are of similar size. It's the lenses, man, the lenses
    In This case you are totally wrong! The Dpreview review is a good one this time, but if you check for other reviews on the net, you will find much more mixed results.

    Which does not say anything about the quality of these reviews of course.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Couldn't the AF and over exposure issues be addressed with a modification in the firmware?
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    Quote Originally Posted by peterb View Post
    Couldn't the AF and over exposure issues be addressed with a modification in the firmware?
    Think that should work, question for me remains why Nikon having this long year experience with DSLRs release such an important new model if not ready?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I haven't read every detail but is seemed like they were having some issues with overexposure.... These camera have been out in the wild for a bit. Any word on the street that it is an issue?
    I would say that with any camera, exposure is the responsibility of the operator, not the camera.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by RomanJohnston View Post
    I would say that with any camera, exposure is the responsibility of the operator, not the camera.

    Roman
    Perhaps if you want to do everything manually....but if the user wants to buy a camera based on features that it has, those features should work. Personally, when shooting manual, it is nice to have an indication of the metered exposure with a scale of how much over or underexposed it would be....and yes i would expect that scale to be less than .5 to 1.0 stop off.

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    I have yet to find ANY camera that exposes properly 100% of the time. Photography is a craft. If you have found one that does perfectly all the time...please, let me know.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by RomanJohnston View Post
    I have yet to find ANY camera that exposes properly 100% of the time. Photography is a craft. If you have found one that does perfectly all the time...please, let me know.

    Roman
    We agree proper exposure - this is what I was referring to:

    "There's one negative point though that we have to mention. As you can see from the examples on this page, the camera has a tendency to overexpose, particularly in bright conditions. During our tests we shoot hundreds of real-life samples and with any camera there are usually a few incorrectly exposed images. On the D7000 however the correct/incorrect ratio is a little higher than usual which suggests that the camera's 3D matrix metering could do with a bit of a tweak. The overexposure is usually in the region between 0.5 and 1.0EV and can in most cases be corrected in RAW conversion. Nevertheless, when shooting in bright sunshine and/or high contrast conditions you might want to keep an eye on the histogram and apply exposure compensation where necessary.

    More adventurous users might also consider using the 'Fine Tune Optimal Exposure' control in the custom menu, but we'd urge caution here - this control is a universal bias, irrespective of scene type. In our experience, it is only in bright lighting conditions where the D7000 tends to struggle."

    http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/nikond7000/page16.asp

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by RomanJohnston View Post
    I have yet to find ANY camera that exposes properly 100% of the time. Photography is a craft. If you have found one that does perfectly all the time...please, let me know.

    Roman
    Well,

    I think that I know multiple DSLRs over the last 10 years as I owned them and I do NOT agree that the camera should not be able to do proper exposure - I mean not perfect, this remains to the photographer, but at least 90 - 95%.

    Nikon DSLRs are known for doing that really good since many years, so it is quite unusual that the D7000 is an exception here.

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    Every camera I have owned has its own "personality" with exposure. Some over expose, some under expose. Some even do both based on the scene before them and the algorithm processing the scene. (IE ratio of dark to light in the scene).

    The only constant I have found is me. If I learn exposure and how my tool sees (or improperly sees) I can adjust and shoot with any camera no matter it's nature.

    My D70 constantly under exposed if I relied on the meter. My D2H was pretty good, but would hedge lightly to under exposure. My D2X would under expose a little much like the D2H, my D300 seems to underexpose and over expose as well as nail exposure.

    Again...I have never found a camera that can handle everything thrown at it. If the D7000 has a slight over exposure in certain situations. Learn it and move on. But don't make it deal killer...because the next camera you look at will have its own issues with certain scenes that throw the meter off. It's that simple.

    If anyone finds that exposure is the most important thing in their photograph (and most should) they should learn that no camera is perfect and somewhere along the line they will have to become part of the process if they want their success rate to improve.

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    Nah... my D80 underexposed by around half a stop routinely, and I think most of them did. Nikon was never able to fix it. Now, it overexposes randomly, but that's probably just a sign that the motherboard is dying.

    I don't worry too much about these things, as long as it's consistent. After a few thousand shots, one learns to know the camera.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    Nah... my D80 underexposed by around half a stop routinely, and I think most of them did. Nikon was never able to fix it. Now, it overexposes randomly, but that's probably just a sign that the motherboard is dying.

    I don't worry too much about these things, as long as it's consistent. After a few thousand shots, one learns to know the camera.
    What scares me is that it seems not to be consistent.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    I'm with Roman on this one.
    Every camera has it's own character . . . and that doesn't just mean every model of camera.
    My M9s expose differently, so did my two E1s.
    You just get to know what's going on and keep a look at the histogram.
    If I fancied the D7000 for other reasons, then I certainly wouldn't let a little remark like that from dPreview put me off.

    . . . . and anyway, it was a really GOOD review.

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    Yeah...it was an awesome review. I might actually "upgrade" from my D300 to this camera. Better DR, same features that I currently use (Live view, MLU, water resistant body, 14bit, etc) and it's lighter.

    Sounds like a win win to me.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    I'm with Roman on this one.
    Every camera has it's own character . . . and that doesn't just mean every model of camera.
    My M9s expose differently, so did my two E1s.
    You just get to know what's going on and keep a look at the histogram.
    If I fancied the D7000 for other reasons, then I certainly wouldn't let a little remark like that from dPreview put me off.

    . . . . and anyway, it was a really GOOD review.
    I certainly wasn't in any way implying that someone should stay away from this camera. My initial comment was simply asking a question about the exposure. In the review they talked about overexposure and I was wondering real life users in the field were making similar comments.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by TEBnewyork View Post
    I certainly wasn't in any way implying that someone should stay away from this camera. My initial comment was simply asking a question about the exposure. In the review they talked about overexposure and I was wondering real life users in the field were making similar comments.
    HI Terry
    I'm sure that 'real life users' will be saying everything, both with respect to the exposure and everything else.

    Perhaps I should get one of these, so that I've got the 'complete set' of cameras with the new Sony sensor

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    You can't expect the exposure to be correct unless you disable all of the automatic features.

    For example, the camera has 18 (eighteen) different ways to interpret a scene, and try to read your mind as it applies post-processing to the acquired image. Unless the people who designed the algorithm know exactly what you expect, their results won't match your desires.

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    Re: Dpreview review of the D7000

    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post

    Perhaps I should get one of these, so that I've got the 'complete set' of cameras with the new Sony sensor
    Jono, you know what is expected of you

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    I think it's a stunning camera! I've had it since mid-Oct and haven't had any "exposure" problems that i thought were the camera's fault. I also haven't read the review in DPreview. IMHO, It's much better then the D300 that I used to have, and, closing in on the D700. Cheers, Matt.

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