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    Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    what are the main differences between the 2? and what are your opinions

    does putting the hp viewfinder onto a normal f3 body turn it into an f3 HP

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    Re: Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    Quote Originally Posted by ollielott View Post
    what are the main differences between the 2? and what are your opinions

    does putting the hp viewfinder onto a normal f3 body turn it into an f3 HP
    That's my favorite Nikon film camera. A little weak on the TTL flash and a 1/80 second max flash sync. Otherwise, a delight.

    Between the F3 and F3hp the only difference is what finder is fitted aside from that F3hp models are necessarily a little newer than original F3 model ... putting the hp finder on the F3 makes it an hp.

    An F3/T has the titanium body shell. Same camera in all respects other than the skin material.

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    Unless you wear glasses when you shoot, I would get the non HP finder. I found the HP finder added too much weight and bulk.

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    Nikon F3 VS F3HP


    The way Wikipedia puts it, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nikon_F3

    "Initially, the F3 model with the DE-2 eye-level finder was introduced, soon followed by the popular F3HP, or High Point camera, with the DE-3 High Eyepoint prism/finder.
    The major advantage of this finder was that the entire viewfinder image could be seen from a distance of 2.5 cm from the viewfinder.
    This made the F3 more usable by those who wear glasses when shooting, or were forced to shoot in high glare situations while wearing sunglasses.
    The only down-side to this was a smaller image through the viewfinder compared to the standard prism.
    With the exception of the "P" spec camera, all viewfinders are completely interchangeable."



    I recently posted some F3HP pictures in this thread: http://forum.getdpi.com/forum/showthread.php?t=25764

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    Re: Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    Quote Originally Posted by willie_901 View Post
    Unless you wear glasses when you shoot, I would get the non HP finder. I found the HP finder added too much weight and bulk.
    For me, the HP finder made it the best viewfinder of any of 35mm SLRs ... Yes I've always worn glasses. :-)

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    Having the option I would not even hesitate a second and go for the HP!

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    If you photograph with glasses get the HP, if not get the F3. You lose magnification on the HP finder to account for the high eye point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by willie_901 View Post
    Unless you wear glasses when you shoot, I would get the non HP finder. I found the HP finder added too much weight and bulk.
    +1. After years of using my F3HP with the HP finder, I picked up a barely used DE-2 finder from KEH for cheap, and I love it. Makes the F3 a neat 'little' (especially compared to DSLRs) camera, though still a bit bigger than an FE/FE-2. My only caution, as Godfrey noted, is that an original F3 is quite long in the tooth, while and F3HP will be a lot newer. Also, judging by the two samples that I've owned (and one that I still own) it seems that a lot more folks may have bought the F3HP as a 'shelf queen' and so can be found in barely used condition for peanuts.

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    Oops, I just realized this thread is from May. Sorry about that.

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    I'd say thank you for keeping this thread alive, dubes, I think it deserves to remain a steadily ongoing thread
    Oh, and welcome aboard !

    Maybe we need some illustrations, here's my well preserved HP version.


    click for larger - in some browsers F11 deactivates and again activates <-> the menu lines


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    Re: Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    And here's my hastily shot and rather dusty F3.



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    my best friend, junior (aka sidekick):
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    Thank you, Steen! When I get around to it, I'll have to take a picture of my F3HP disguised as an F3. I see your non-HP has the 35mm f/2.8 on it. I have a pre-AI version that a prior owner converted to AI (though it still has the original rabbit ears, without the holes). I wouldn't say it's my favorite 35mm lens, but I do appreciate its small size and weight (and it was darn cheap, too).

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    God, these old girls are just beautiful. I go back and forth over which F has the best viewfinder. most days the F3HP is the winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Steen View Post
    I'd say thank you for keeping this thread alive, dubes, I think it deserves to remain a steadily ongoing thread
    Oh, and welcome aboard !

    Maybe we need some illustrations, here's my well preserved HP version.


    click for larger - in some browsers F11 deactivates and again activates <-> the menu lines


    Captured with Nikon D300 • AI-S Nikkor 2.5/105mm • 1/60 sec. at f/5.6 ISO 200 • Capture NX

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    Taken with Nikon F3T HP with Nikkor 8mm 2.8 AI-S on XP2

    The F3HP IMO has the best viewfinder ever made as far as I am concerned. I also have the Sports finder which is to cool for words. Or as a oldest son said once. 'Its like live view only anolog"

    I am lucky enough to have the Titainium model. I use it with the MD-2. Even with out the Nicad pack it's still a great motor drive.


    One of the things about the F3 system that is second to none is the interchangable viewfinder system as well as the huge varity of focusing screens available. Oi have the grid screen I love it.
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    Taken with Nikon F3T HP with Nikkor 8mm 2.8 AI-S on XP2

    The F3HP IMO has the best viewfinder ever made as far as I am concerned. I also have the Sports finder which is to cool for words. Or as a oldest son said once. 'Its like live view only anolog"

    I am lucky enough to have the Titainium model. I use it with the MD-2. Even with out the Nicad pack it's still a great motor drive.


    One of the things about the F3 system that is second to none is the interchangable viewfinder system as well as the huge varity of focusing screens available. I have the grid screen I love it.

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    nikkorais ...

    you're doing the camera/lens porn again. Its blatantly irresponsible. Thinking of visiting the relatives in Red Deer after Christmas, could be coming for a visit with a club or a bat ...

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    Re: nikkorais ...

    Quote Originally Posted by hsteeves View Post
    you're doing the camera/lens porn again. Its blatantly irresponsible. Thinking of visiting the relatives in Red Deer after Christmas, could be coming for a visit with a club or a bat ...
    Yeah, I hate looking at photos like these. It makes my "Buy It Now" finger get itchy ... =8^0

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    Re: Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    This is some omen - I've been visiting the auction site this week repeatedly, looking for a mint F3/T in black. Then I buy a German photo mag where they run a full page story on the F3, as one of the classic cameras of the 80s. Now this.... I must resist, I must resist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nikkor AIS View Post
    I am lucky enough to have the Titainium model. I use it with the MD-2. Even with out the Nicad pack it's still a great motor drive.
    Just a note for anyone looking for a Motor for the F3 series: It takes the MD-4.

    The MD-1, MD-2, and MD-3 are all for the Nikon F2. MD-4 is for the F3. I should drag them out and post a photo of them.

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    Re: Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    I have bought an F3(non HP) with MD4 recently (for under 150 €!), with a good battery and the quick loader. Sometimes when I cannot remember the sound of it I just let it run for some 30-50 shots at full speed. This gives me relief and I can go on shooting my digitals. I think this pure mechanical sound was the best thing on the whole camera............

    BTW I have not shot a single roll of film with it and I think this will stay so.....



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    Nikon F3 VS F3HP - get both


    I hear you, Stefan and the siren song of your F3 shutter


    With regards to the original poster's question, F3 vs. F3HP, the trick is just to get some of the different viewfinders and screens after your own taste.

    The convenient viewfinder changing method of the F3 makes changing of focusing screen swift and easy, and there are a total of 23 types of focusing screens for F3.
    The Nikon F3's viewfinders are as easy to change as the focusing screens.
    By just pulling back both release levers at the same time, you can lift the viewfinder out in upward direction.
    The system is so wonderfully modular.


    Here I show from left to right:

    • the Nikon DA-2 Action Finder
    • the Nikon DE-2 Standard Eye Level Finder
    • the Nikon DE-3 High-Eyepoint Finder

    And with the standard focusing Type K screen sitting in the F3 body in the background.
    It has a Matte/Fresnel field with 3 mm split image rangefinder spot surrounded by 1 mm-wide micro prism collar.




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    Re: Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    If you wear glasses the HP is a terrific choice.

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    I recently read from a guy who know his F3's. He said of the DE-2 and I quote, "It was silver-coated inside the pentaprism to provide an extraordinarily brilliant, clear image with good corner-to-corner visibility". Not sure if the DE-3 got the same treatment. I do know that the DE-2 is quite bright.

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    Re: Nikon F3 VS F3HP

    Quote Originally Posted by baudolino View Post
    This is some omen - I've been visiting the auction site this week repeatedly, looking for a mint F3/T in black. Then I buy a German photo mag where they run a full page story on the F3, as one of the classic cameras of the 80s. Now this.... I must resist, I must resist.
    Resistance is pointless, the F3 was (and remains) a classic camera - go ahead and join an exclusive club.

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    I think the F3 was the best looking of the bunch. I had a perfect one but the meter expired on mine and is something to look out for when buying used.
    Holy cow, that image of the old 80-200 slide zoom brought back some good memories.

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