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    Colors are quite real.

    PS: V1 cannot focus on clouds and slow on low light (a known).
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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Lovely rough weather pictures Uwe - especially the first one with the headland.

    It's obviously an interesting camera - I'd love to play . . . . but!
    Jono,

    you would get back into the color dilemma of Nikon which you do not like

    Honestly, I would try it, I am SOOOO happy with mine.

    BTW - I figured that the latest Nikon cameras as the V1, but also the D7000 have significantly different colors than the ones coming out from D700, D3 etc.

    I really prefer the new rendering!

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    Funny to my eye the color rendering is similar to My D700. I actually want to shoot the color checker and make a new profile. I saw a whole series of pics in evening light that would drive Jono bonkers as they had exactly the same yellow "problems" he hated so much. I will find the link.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Funny to my eye the color rendering is similar to My D700. I actually want to shoot the color checker and make a new profile. I saw a whole series of pics in evening light that would drive Jono bonkers as they had exactly the same yellow "problems" he hated so much. I will find the link.
    To me the colors look a bit cooler - not so yellow - as from previous Nikons. This in combination with LR3.5, which maybe also makes a difference.

    The link would be fine ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    To me the colors look a bit cooler - not so yellow - as from previous Nikons. This in combination with LR3.5, which maybe also makes a difference.

    The link would be fine ...
    Scroll down a few shots and the grass starts to get that very yellow look

    http://jonathanfleming.wordpress.com/

    Yes, I know it is the late day warm sun but Nikon accentuates the yellow a lot.

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    I see!

    But have to say I like these warm colors. Reminds me a bit on Leica colors. So obviously a matter of taste

    Anyway it seems difficult to make real statements about how the V1 performs color wise WRT D700 or D3, but I still have the feeling that it is rendering a bit cooler.

    Finally, I would not care so much about OOC colors, as you can adjust those especially if you shoot RAW in any direction you want. And with C1 Pro even automatically during import. So why care?

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    From our evening walk:



    with flash:

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    Well a V1 happened to magically show up at my apartment as well. A few thoughts. Once again it will take me a while to think backwards when attaching/detaching lenses.

    First very quick impressions
    1)Kit lens seems to focus closer than some of my others (Sony/Panny/Oly)
    2)The viewfinder is much "cleaner" in low light. Not sure if it is the fast readout or what but definitely better than m4/3 and NEX. Had all three side by side.

    Nothing to post...it is dark out.
    That is an issue with the m4/3rds. The increasing graininess of the view finder makes it harder to focus manually in lower light, but despite that, the "gain" of the viewfinder still makes it better in low light than any optical viewfinder.

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    Picked up the V1 and 10mm today. Loving it so far. Seems to be very good at white balance and the files don't need much adjustment in LR to look good - certainly less than my D700 did. I can't seem to post pics. Something to do with my quota being taken up?

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    Finally figured it out.

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    I'm new to this forum and was just looking around when I found this thread. Love the water shots. I typically shoot an M9-P\35 Chron combo but recently purchased a V1 and EP3 for tooling around. Returned the EP3; the V1 is simply a better performing camera. Nikon has done a nice job with this camera. Hopefully they will come out with a few fast primes as well...

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    Quote Originally Posted by momo9394 View Post
    I'm new to this forum and was just looking around when I found this thread. Love the water shots. I typically shoot an M9-P\35 Chron combo but recently purchased a V1 and EP3 for tooling around. Returned the EP3; the V1 is simply a better performing camera. Nikon has done a nice job with this camera. Hopefully they will come out with a few fast primes as well...
    I shot the EP2 over the last 2 years and the EP3 as it hit the market. I was at the time when the EP2 became available (2 years ago) very happy with that camera. I found the EP3 despite all the hype about its "fastest AF" etc absolutely not overwhelming.

    When I tried the V1 3 months ago I immediately liked this camera (system), returned all my m43 gear and am a very happy V1 user since then.

    Great camera indeed!

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    Same here, had the EP3 and after I got the V1 sold the Olympus. I miss the excellent Olympus 12mm and 45mm prime lenses, though. An EP4 with integrated EVF and state of the art 16MP sensor could win me back to mft.

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    It's not all roses, though. Right? After a few weeks using the V1 I very much like the image quality but there are a few things I really wish were different. For example:

    1: Wish I could assign minimum shutter speeds in auto and P modes. Why does the camera insist on shooting at, for example, 1/20th at ISO 400 and f2.8, even when I've specified my max ISO as 3200?

    2: The mode dial is stupidly easy to knock and change accidentally.

    3: I wish the F button could be user assigned for quick access to more frequently altered options.

    I got the V1 to use as a larger sensor point and shoot and as such will probably never use it in manual modes – if I wanted a small camera to shoot manually I'd just use a Leica.

    Don't get me wrong, it's a great little camera. These are just the things I wish got more attention from Nikon when on the design table.

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    2: The mode dial is stupidly easy to knock and change accidentally.

    I have to agree, that mode dial needs some more tightening down or what.

    Hopefully, a firmeware update can address the others....
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    I've been out shooting with it today. Whenever I pick it up it seems the mode dial has moved. The good news is I shoot only RAW and a bunch of the modes don't work in RAW so I know it has moved. But yes, that dial Is a bit of a fail.

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    >But yes, that dial Is a bit of a fail.

    Major annoying
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    First real outing with the V1 and I found one thing even more irritating than the mode dial. That is having to hit OK after dialing in exposure compensation. I kept wondering why my setting wasn't holding. Duh because I wasn't really ever setting it. So, some of these have some blown highlights.

    This was my first outing with the FT-1 and 70-200.


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    Crap no exp comp!















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    First real outing with the V1 and I found one thing even more irritating than the mode dial. That is having to hit OK after dialing in exposure compensation. I kept wondering why my setting wasn't holding. Duh because I wasn't really ever setting it. So, some of these have some blown highlights.

    This was my first outing with the FT-1 and 70-200.
    "Crap no exp comp!" - that's what this bird is saying:




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    Yes, I've noticed the annoying "must press ok" menu... Not very Nikon to over look that, is it?

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    A few more in my practice with the 70-200 on the V1



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    Kind of reminded me of a penguin walking


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    2nd to last shot is my favorite. Quite different from the typical bird shot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by raist3d View Post
    2nd to last shot is my favorite. Quite different from the typical bird shot.

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    Yes,
    I like that one as well. The others are really me getting comfortable handholding that lens at that focal length and getting sharp images. Yes, everything was handheld. I had very fast shutter speeds but it is big to work with. Nice setup to get me a very fast long lens setup for when I need it. For day to day shooting in regular situations the 30-110 is teeny and meaningfully smaller than any m4/3 covering that range.

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    A few more in my practice with the 70-200 on the V1



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    Kind of reminded me of a penguin walking


    Great shots and the file quality looks amazing considering the small sensor. How would you compare shooting the V1 with the fast zoom versus the mft set up you were using for the safari.

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    Terry, those are very nice!!

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    Kind of reminded me of a penguin walking

    Best of the bunch!

    It would be "perfect" had the focus been on the lower tail area- just a nit pick.

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    Re: Fun with the V1

    Retow - It is definitely heavier and bigger. So far I've been in really good light which wasn't always the case when I was on Safari. However, I have two stops to spare with the V1 and 70-200 because all of these shots would have been at f5.6 on m4/3 instead of f2.8 here. I think the VR II on the Nikon is better than the OIS on the Panasonic.

    If I want to give up one of the stops - I can add a teleconverter - effectively I could do this with the GH2 and ETC mode by dropping the resolution.

    The V1 shoots faster and has a much deeper RAW buffer but there are some annoyances that need a firmware update.....like not being able to turn off image review.

    So, there is no pound the table definitive answer yet.

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    A few more in my practice with the 70-200 on the V1

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    Terry - some great shots here - I wasn't looking for yet another camera but the quality of these shots has me very intrigued
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    Haha Joe -
    And that was straight out of the camera with no sharpening added. Think about what a little PP can do.

    Seriously if you still have your Nikon gear and want longer reach than your 70-200 a V1 is a very interesting addition....and you can go really long if you have a teleconverter.

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    Haha Joe -
    And that was straight out of the camera with no sharpening added. Think about what a little PP can do.

    Seriously if you still have your Nikon gear and want longer reach than your 70-200 a V1 is a very interesting addition....and you can go really long if you have a teleconverter.
    Terry I have the 70-200 and the 300 f4 - even without a TC, the 300 would give me 810mm @ f4 - not bad! I also have all three Nikon TCs - 1.4, 1.7, and 2.0 so could really go long
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    Re: Fun with the V1

    Well, it is at least worth borrowing a V1 and heading out for a morning at your local bird haunts.

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    I like the "Penguin" Gull.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Well, it is at least worth borrowing a V1 and heading out for a morning at your local bird haunts.
    Hmmm - wonder who I know around here that has one I could borrow?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainjoe View Post
    Hmmm - wonder who I know around here that has one I could borrow?
    Ahhhh..... I thought you would get that!

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    Excellent stuff Terry - it certainly works well with the 70-200 . . . these new cameras surprise us at every turn (at least, they surprise me at every turn!).

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    All three photos from an evening walk. For photographing the cat high speed shooting was very helpful.





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    We have most evening a short walk. The Nikon V1 is nearly ideal to carry with me (next to the iPhone). The 2 previous photos were from last nights walk. These ones too:







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    I had the V1 for about a week but sent it back. There's just nothing about it that makes it a better fit for me than m4/3s models.

    But, a nice camera nevertheless.

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    I shot the EP2 over the last 2 years and the EP3 as it hit the market. I was at the time when the EP2 became available (2 years ago) very happy with that camera. I found the EP3 despite all the hype about its "fastest AF" etc absolutely not overwhelming.

    When I tried the V1 3 months ago I immediately liked this camera (system), returned all my m43 gear and am a very happy V1 user since then.

    Great camera indeed!
    i bought a V1 when it came out and while i do like some aspects of it (AF etc) i am a bit concerned about IQ. i see quite a lot of noise in grey image areas at base iso. well, i have no experience with small sensor cameras but still, this leaves my somewhat concerned.
    your take? maybe in comparism to micro 43?
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    Quote Originally Posted by markowich View Post
    i bought a V1 when it came out and while i do like some aspects of it (AF etc) i am a bit concerned about IQ. i see quite a lot of noise in grey image areas at base iso. well, i have no experience with small sensor cameras but still, this leaves my somewhat concerned.
    your take? maybe in comparism to micro 43?
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    Peter,

    the m43 cameras I had from Olympus (EP2 and EP3) were both not really better WRT noise than the V1.

    The GH2 I also shot for a while had a much better noise performance although it uses a 18MP sensor. I assume that the new OMD, which uses a 16MP sensor (similar to GX1 and G3) should also do better, but still has to prove.

    What I like about the V1 is the overall ease of handling (for me) and that the lenses are pretty small. Especially the 30-110 is a real marvel.

    What I did NOT like from m43 was the plastic finish of the kit lenses, especially with the EP3. Maybe this improves again when the OMD and kit zoom and other "high end" m43 glass hits the market. Anyway that system will end up much bigger than the 1 system from Nikon.

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    peter,
    right, photography with the V1 is a lot of fun.
    have you printed (if yes, what size&iso)?
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    Peter,

    the m43 cameras I had from Olympus (EP2 and EP3) were both not really better WRT noise than the V1.

    The GH2 I also shot for a while had a much better noise performance although it uses a 18MP sensor. I assume that the new OMD, which uses a 16MP sensor (similar to GX1 and G3) should also do better, but still has to prove.

    What I like about the V1 is the overall ease of handling (for me) and that the lenses are pretty small. Especially the 30-110 is a real marvel.

    What I did NOT like from m43 was the plastic finish of the kit lenses, especially with the EP3. Maybe this improves again when the OMD and kit zoom and other "high end" m43 glass hits the market. Anyway that system will end up much bigger than the 1 system from Nikon.

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    right, photography with the V1 is a lot of fun.
    have you printed (if yes, what size&iso)?
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    Printed yes, but only small like 10x15cm or similar. This of course was ok.

    But I assume (judging from what I can see on my Eizo screen, that it should nicely go up to A3.

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    Playing around with some heavy processing. Need to use better selection tools in Photoshop. This was done in LR4

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    Terry, I like the mood.




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    With all the D800 talk, many seem to forget what a gem the little Nikon 1 is.
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    Yes the V1 is very nice for what it is.
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    Agree - especially with the FT1 - the 2.7x crop factor is a real boon for bird photographers



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    Uwe,

    The top photo in #26 is outstanding and should be in a gallery!

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