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    Fun with the V1

    Bought the V1 and started using it today. The J1 was loaner and I also used only briefly a V1 of a friend before.





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    Re: Fun with the V1

    Well a V1 happened to magically show up at my apartment as well. A few thoughts. Once again it will take me a while to think backwards when attaching/detaching lenses.

    First very quick impressions
    1)Kit lens seems to focus closer than some of my others (Sony/Panny/Oly)
    2)The viewfinder is much "cleaner" in low light. Not sure if it is the fast readout or what but definitely better than m4/3 and NEX. Had all three side by side.
    3)Setting it on continuous shooting the shutter is very responsive and fast and hard to take just one shot.
    4)30-100 is teeny

    Nothing to post...it is dark out.

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    Congratulations Uwe and Terry on the V1!

    This is really a spectacular camera, I love it and I love all the lenses I have so far - 10, 10-30 and 30-110!

    I had decided that all my m43 gear had to go for the Nikon 1 System, as I did not want just another system in addition. And I never did regret this decision!

    Enjoy

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    Re: Fun with the V1

    Hi There
    Another one I seem to be missing out on - congratulations guys and girl - I'll be fascinated by your feelings.
    It's got the same size sensor as the lovely Olympus E10 (for those who go back so far). I've still got A3 shots from that on my wall.

    enjoy!
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    Good grief, the E10 LOL. How well I remember. I have favorites from it also, and at least one print on the wall too. Interesting about the sensor size, I didn't realize that or at least have thought about the comparison.

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    Actually Diane, I think I'm wrong - I think it's the Fuji X10 which is the same size (2/3) and that the V1 is a little larger.
    have a FANTASTIC Christmas

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    Re: Fun with the V1

    My motivations may be different than others.
    I did two wildlife trips this year with the Panny 100-300. I'm trying to compare what I like better the m4/3 long lens set up vs.

    V1+adapter+70-200

    This combo gives almost the same range 189-540 but at f2.8. Neither is meant to be handheld but used on a gimbal head.

    I do think that the NEX7 or 5n will be my main carry around system.

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    My motivations may be different than others.
    I did two wildlife trips this year with the Panny 100-300. I'm trying to compare what I like better the m4/3 long lens set up vs.

    V1+adapter+70-200

    This combo gives almost the same range 189-540 but at f2.8. Neither is meant to be handheld but used on a gimbal head.

    I do think that the NEX7 or 5n will be my main carry around system.
    Hmmm, but how about a NEX with adapter and the nice Sony 70-300G? Not long enough?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonoslack View Post
    Hmmm, but how about a NEX with adapter and the nice Sony 70-300G? Not long enough?
    Correct - I did 75% or more of my Kenya shots at 600mm or longer.

    So, Nikon gives me two extra stops (I know partially offset by good high ISO on the NEX 5n and cropability of the NEX 7). We shall see how this goes. I was really just looking to take advantage of the crop sensor of the Nikon and then the extra DOF that comes along with it.

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    Re: Fun with the V1

    Another lens that would be interesting to try out on the V1 is the 70-300 VR. The adapter has a tripod mount, hasn't it?

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    Re: Fun with the V1

    A couple of images from the V1. Weather has been overcast or foggy virtually since I bought it:


    DSC_0447.jpg by bcaslis, on Flickr


    Grass frozen fog by bcaslis, on Flickr

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    Re: Fun with the V1

    How do you guys get along with the 10-30zoom and the v1 without flash??
    I handelded he v1 and j1 today in the store and the v1 feels much bettter in my hands..but I wish the v1 also had an internal flash. (still evaluating if I shoud get a v1 for my wife, but even in the store at f5.6 ISO went up to 3200 and exp time was 1/30-too long for kids. And I dont think she would want to use an external flash.

    Terry - large tele-lenses on a minimized camera body sounds to me like a real compromize regarding user interface. I find the d700 allready worse than a D3 when using a 70-200/2.8, so with a v1...I dont know if I wanted to do that.

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    Re: Fun with the V1

    Inside you need a flash without question. I would not buy the system unless you plan to get the flash also or only shoot outside. I bought the SB-N5 flash for it. It's useful but not nearly as strong as a normal speed light. Inside I need ISO 400 in a normal size room to get enough light.

    The real gem of the offering so far is the 30-110 lens. It sharp, has great VR, and tiny. I took some test shots indoors and got a sharp image at 1/15 sec. Outside I need more it seems, but this is easily the best CX lens so far.

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    Example shoot with SB-N5 bounced inside at night.


    DSC_0400.jpg by bcaslis, on Flickr

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    >Terry - large tele-lenses on a minimized camera body sounds to me like a real compromize regarding user interface.

    But buy and carry such a lens with the D700 :-)
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    Re: Fun with the V1

    well if I want 600mm on a D700 I can count on spending $10,000 on just the lens. I don't do enough wildlife to warrant that and I certainly don't want a lens that size. I was trying to let the (smaller sensor) crop factor work for me. I played around with the G3 and 100-300mm on a gimbal head and it was fine.

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    >well if I want 600mm on a D700 I can count on spending $10,000 on just the lens. I don't do enough wildlife to warrant that and I certainly don't want a lens that size.

    Was my point. And you get f2.8
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    Re: Fun with the V1

    Whoops I got totally confused on the quotes.

    OK Uwe you and I are on the same page!

    Thomas - I don't do a lot of wildlife stuff but I enjoyed it on two trips this year. Yes, V1 with a 70-200 is certainly a compromise. But one I'm willing to play around with given my use case. There are a number of people looking to do similar with this combo. Clearly the cheapest way to get long and fast when you need it. May be a dud but that's why we have a buy/sell forum and ebay .

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    After a frosty night:



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    Note: the mode switch on the V1 is bad. Had in changed to video without wanting to and then it only shoots 1080p sized JPEGs. This needs a lock.






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    Not our cats , just sone in San Juan Bautista. Used the V1 high Speed modus (about 5-10 fps). The really interesting feature is the buffer for 44 Raw files. This is a crop from a shot with the 30110mm @ 110mm.

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    Winter Orchard

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    >well if I want 600mm on a D700 I can count on spending $10,000 on just the lens. I don't do enough wildlife to warrant that and I certainly don't want a lens that size.

    Was my point. And you get f2.8
    f2.8 on such a crop sensor would be like f5.6? on a dx sized sensor (regarding noise and DOF).
    Personally I would rather use the 70-200 with a 2TC on the D700 or if you need 600mm fov on a D300s or d7000.
    However in the end its important what works fine for the photographer.
    For example Jono likes the 28-90 Leica on the Nex5 - and I find the lens too big on the Nex.

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    >f2.8 on such a crop sensor would be like f5.6? on a dx sized sensor

    My comparison is to the slow V1 lenses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    My motivations may be different than others.
    I did two wildlife trips this year with the Panny 100-300. I'm trying to compare what I like better the m4/3 long lens set up vs.

    V1+adapter+70-200

    This combo gives almost the same range 189-540 but at f2.8. Neither is meant to be handheld but used on a gimbal head.

    I do think that the NEX7 or 5n will be my main carry around system.
    Terry - you're talking about using the FF Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 on the V1? Does the adapter allow AF and VR?
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    Quote Originally Posted by mountainjoe View Post
    Terry - you're talking about using the FF Nikon 70-200mm f2.8 on the V1? Does the adapter allow AF and VR?
    Yes to both. But supposedly only center point AF and not tracking AF. I and others will know more soon. The adapters are just now trickling into the US.

    Here is more info. While the limitations are a bummer...In the end it is sort of exactly how i shot the GH2 in Kenya.

    http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/...pdate-110.html




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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Yes to both. But supposedly only center point AF and not tracking AF. I and others will know more soon. The adapters are just now trickling into the US.

    Here is more info. While the limitations are a bummer...In the end it is sort of exactly how i shot the GH2 in Kenya.

    http://www.sansmirror.com/newsviews/...pdate-110.html

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    Hmm - wonder how fast it will AF.

    I had no interest in this camera but this may change things if it works well...
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    Re: Fun with the V1

    I wonder how the V1 with a Nikon tele compares to the NEX7 with a similar lens (like the Sony 70-200/2.8G) cropped a little bit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    I wonder how the V1 with a Nikon tele compares to the NEX7 with a similar lens (like the Sony 70-200/2.8G) cropped a little bit?
    We will have the adapter soon and will find out. There are some potential differences:

    1. More people own Nikon lenses than Sony (we do)
    2. AF support (to be seen of course)
    3. VR support (also to be seen)
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    Lovely photos, Uwe.

    Of course Nikon makes a good camera and excellent lenses. It's your eye that is the important part.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Godfrey View Post
    Lovely photos, Uwe.

    Of course Nikon makes a good camera and excellent lenses. It's your eye that is the important part.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    I wonder how the V1 with a Nikon tele compares to the NEX7 with a similar lens (like the Sony 70-200/2.8G) cropped a little bit?
    As Uwe mentions VR support could make a difference. NEX doesn't have in body stabilization and the Alpha lenses aren't stabilized because the Alpha bodies have the stabilization.

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    Oh, the Alpha lenses don't AF on the NEX-7? And it doesn't have in-body stabilization? In that case it's a no-brainer and the Nikon wins hands down IMO.

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    Oh, the Alpha lenses don't AF on the NEX-7? And it doesn't have in-body stabilization? In that case it's a no-brainer and the Nikon wins hands down IMO.
    With the la-ea2 you have AF with all Alpha lenses on the NEX series.
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    Alpha lenses will AF. There is no image stabilization with the Alpha Lens plus NEX body combination.

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    I think finally it all comes down to how fast the AF really is in combination with the adapter. I have no practical experience so far for the V1 with adapter, but I do hope it is reasonably faster than m43 with 43 lenses mounted via an adapter - which REALLY sucks!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lonnie Utah View Post
    With the la-ea2 you have AF with all Alpha lenses on the NEX series.
    Quote Originally Posted by Terry View Post
    Alpha lenses will AF. There is no image stabilization with the Alpha Lens plus NEX body combination.
    Quote Originally Posted by ptomsu View Post
    I think finally it all comes down to how fast the AF really is in combination with the adapter. I have no practical experience so far for the V1 with adapter, but I do hope it is reasonably faster than m43 with 43 lenses mounted via an adapter - which REALLY sucks!
    In this case, NEX with the LA-EA2 should easily beat all combinations for autofocus speed. It's basically Sony's translucent mirror and phase detect AF unit found in the A35/A55/A65/A77 cameras engineered to fit the NEX system. All other mirrorless offerings rely on at least some degree of Contrast Detect AF when using adapters to AF.

    Pretty fast...

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    It would be nice if this thread was a discussion about the V1 and it's pictures instead of a discussion about how awesome the NEX is.

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    >It would be nice if this thread was a discussion about the V1 and it's pictures instead of a discussion about how awesome the NEX is.

    Pictures are welcome too :-)

    PS: On the other side the V1 has to be seen in the context of the NEX-5N/7 and the m43 cameras. The V1 is not a 5N in terms of detail but holds up very well and is a lot of fun to use (I own 5N and V1, we always have both with us).
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    I would be interested to learn from Uwe or Terry how the IQ of the V1 compares to the X10. I believe the two own both. I'm quite happy with the V1 as a second system and think its IQ is at the level of the 12 MP mft sensor Olympus still uses. I had the EP3 and sold it for the V1.

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    >IQ of the V1 compares to the X10

    I think the V1 is better. But even if they would be the same I would use the V1 for handling and much larger tele range.

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    Hard to do with many other small cameras (used high speed mode):

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    Uwe what high speed mode was this?

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    Lovely rough weather pictures Uwe - especially the first one with the headland.

    It's obviously an interesting camera - I'd love to play . . . . but!

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    >Uwe what high speed mode was this?

    I think about 10 fps (e-shutter). Long bursts.
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    Used for Texture Blending here (also V1 photo):

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