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    Quote Originally Posted by Jan Brittenson View Post
    The D800E doesn't need the same high-acutance optics as the D800 to render fine detail, so has the opportunity to truly shine with lower contrast, high-resolution optics. Without the AA filter it's a subtler tool that doesn't require a hamfisted approach. I think a Mamiya 120 Macro, Leica Macro-R 60, or an AIS 105/2.5 would be more interesting on the D800E than the Z 100MP.


    Because it lacks an AA filter, so has the opportunity to create a very similar look by using lenses which render that way.
    Hi Jan.

    The first part is very useful for me as the zf 100/2 is the lens I own. Love it
    btw. Thanks for your reasoned response.

    The second part..thanks again for taking the trouble to respond, but should
    it not be then compared more to the M9? A 35mm FF camera without an AA filter?

    Please do not misunderstand me. I just felt that comparing the Nikon D800 to a MF was somehow not doing justice to the MF and its complement of lenses for the situations it is geared towards. Concurrently, the D800/D800E is expected to perform better in situations playing to its strengths. Of course,
    one can take a picture of anything with anything ( well almost!!)

    Each camera has an advantage...be it weight/price/low light etc...and its
    disadvantages. Some people use both an MF and a 35mm dslr and play each camera to its strengths.
    I just feel that with the current technology, if those who put food on the table for their families using their cameras, were convinced that a 35mm FF could get a job done equally well in lieu of a MF; they would use the one that saved them money and provided the same quality to their clients as an MF.

    I am hesitant, my ignorance to blame here, to compare my D-Lux 4 to my
    Leica M8. Both have roughly the same number of pixels. Leica glass. F/2
    aperture. The D-Lux4 has ventured where the M8 would fear to tread..in a
    sandstorm. It really is unfair to compare these two. Unfair to both.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rayyan View Post
    Hi Jan.

    The first part is very useful for me as the zf 100/2 is the lens I own. Love it
    btw. Thanks for your reasoned response.

    The second part..thanks again for taking the trouble to respond, but should
    it not be then compared more to the M9? A 35mm FF camera without an AA filter?

    Please do not misunderstand me. I just felt that comparing the Nikon D800 to a MF was somehow not doing justice to the MF and its complement of lenses for the situations it is geared towards. Concurrently, the D800/D800E is expected to perform better in situations playing to its strengths. Of course,
    one can take a picture of anything with anything ( well almost!!)

    Each camera has an advantage...be it weight/price/low light etc...and its
    disadvantages. Some people use both an MF and a 35mm dslr and play each camera to its strengths.
    I just feel that with the current technology, if those who put food on the table for their families using their cameras, were convinced that a 35mm FF could get a job done equally well in lieu of a MF; they would use the one that saved them money and provided the same quality to their clients as an MF.

    I am hesitant, my ignorance to blame here, to compare my D-Lux 4 to my
    Leica M8. Both have roughly the same number of pixels. Leica glass. F/2
    aperture. The D-Lux4 has ventured where the M8 would fear to tread..in a
    sandstorm. It really is unfair to compare these two. Unfair to both.
    Some really excellent and pertinent comments. I expressed similar thoughts in a post I made earlier today in this thread. It's not so much that some should compare how close the D800e comes to a 40MP MF back or camera) as it really is comparing apples and oranges. Yet for those that would rather not make the investment in medium format digital for say landscape work, they want to know what they gain or lose out on, by using the D800e as opposed to 40MP medium format. Put another way, how close for their purposes does the D800e come to these medium format cameras...whether it is for the look of the file, and/or for its capability in producing large format prints.

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    None of PC-E Tilt & Shift have made the list of recommended lenses

    I wonder if this is an oversight or intentional?

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by tsjanik View Post
    It may have been sold, but not for the 26k on ebay - reserve not met.
    Nor did it meet the $36K asking price on ebay, so a qualified guess is that selling price was around $30-33K. Still ouch. It was marked as sold on the GetDPI thread.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    None of PC-E Tilt & Shift have made the list of recommended lenses

    I wonder if this is an oversight or intentional?
    Once again, read the text in the brochure:

    "Below are some of the lenses you can use for enhanced sharpness."

    It might as well have said:

    "We'd like to sell you some new lenses. The following lenses have high margins for us."

    or:

    "Here is a non-complete list of good lenses. Period."

    I wouldn't read anything into that list WRT quality of lenses that are not listed.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Okay folks it's been awhile but I'm coming back. Lol

    Never count me out. D 800 on order maybe the E but will see.

    Here is what I am think 14-24, 35 ???, 85 1.8 the new one and 180 2.8. Okay why not the 70 -200 well I shoot it right at 200 so kind of a waste. Rather shoot the sweet old lady in the 180. Than the 85 which one is the new 1.8 a winner or go new 1.4. Than the 35 I know your all going to say the 1.4 what else is there. I'm just starting this process but the 85 and 35 I could use some expert opinion. The old 85 1.4D was nice how's the G or the new 1.8. Btw speed is not the issue here
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    I feel that the old 85/1.4D was close to class-leading when it arrived some almost 20 years ago, but today's standards are higher, WRT resolution as well as bokeh. Some people say very nice things about the new 1.4G, it seems like a big step up. Improvements across the board including res, bokeh, coma.

    Of course, the 1.8G is an even bigger step but that's partly because the old 1.8D was such a dog.

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    Thanks Lars keep spending my money bud. Lol
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Hehe sorry about that, let's be a bit more frugal then.

    When I sell my D700 and order a D800, my initial setup for image quality will be 20/2.8D, 50/1.4 Sigma, 85/1.4D, 180/2.8D. Also, since I have it and it's sharp, the 16/2.8D Fisheye is great with a thin stepring for extreme near/far flower closeups that include the horizon. Not quite like a T/S but fun anyway. Might sell the 85/1.4D to finance a Sigma 85 instead for the bokeh - the 1.4G is a bit expensive.

    I really like the 85 focal length but for resolution I think any 100/105 macro would be fantastic - and less costly than a 85/1.4.

    Like you say the 180/2.8 hits a sweet spot in many aspects.

    Nikon needs to bring out a 20/24/28/35 f/2.0-2.8. That gap is like a huge chasm.

    Whatever you do, don't forget a 50/1.8. Dirt cheap so you can shoot in the rain or sand/saltstorm without worrying. I think I have five iterations lying around.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Sounds good yea the 85 is the question . Sounds like the Sigma is also something to look at. I kind of need a good fashion lens in the 85. The 180 is a given. The 14-24 I would like to have as I know that is really good . I guess I can't escape the 35 1.4 than
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    Once again, read the text in the brochure:

    "Below are some of the lenses you can use for enhanced sharpness."

    It might as well have said:

    "We'd like to sell you some new lenses. The following lenses have high margins for us."

    or:

    "Here is a non-complete list of good lenses. Period."

    I wouldn't read anything into that list WRT quality of lenses that are not listed.
    I did read it Thats just one way to interpret that sentence.

    My concern is that the PC-E lenses will have more issues due to the fact that they wont have lens auto corrections (fringing etc..) applied in camera or automatically in conversion as would regular lenses.

    Seems strange that nikon are not pushing the very lenses which would solve some of the diffraction issues caused by pushing for smaller apertures for dept of field.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    A very nice alternative to the 180/2.8 is the Sigma 150/2.8 macro. It's around the same size/weight and price, focuses faster, is weather sealed, has OS and obviously close focusing too. Yes, I know, it's a Sigma, but it's a good one.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    A very nice alternative to the 180/2.8 is the Sigma 150/2.8 macro. It's around the same size/weight and price, focuses faster, is weather sealed, has OS and obviously close focusing too. Yes, I know, it's a Sigma, but it's a good one.
    Yep I've been eyeing the 150 for a while as I could use a macro lens. It has a collar too, doesn't it?
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    I did read it Thats just one way to interpret that sentence.

    My concern is that the PC-E lenses will have more issues due to the fact that they wont have lens auto corrections (fringing etc..) applied in camera or automatically in conversion as would regular lenses.

    Seems strange that nikon are not pushing the very lenses which would solve some of the diffraction issues caused by pushing for smaller apertures for dept of field.
    actually, looking at the mtf charts, I tend to agree with their list.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Where I there list. Link please like to read it
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Where I there list. Link please like to read it
    here you go
    http://www.nikonusa.com/en_US/o/Y6wr...alGuide_En.pdf
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Thanks Bob. Well they picked all the new glass and 1.4 mostly . So what's the deal on the 24-70

    • AF-S NIKKOR 14–24mm f/2.8G ED
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    • AF-S NIKKOR 24mm f/1.4G ED
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    • AF-S Micro NIKKOR 60mm f/2.8G ED
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Money no object I would go 14-24
    35 1.4
    85 1.4
    200 f2

    Money is a object though. Lol
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Money no object I would go 14-24
    35 1.4
    85 1.4
    200 f2

    Money is a object though. Lol
    I think that a pretty versatile lens for model work is the 105 micro
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    Yep I've been eyeing the 150 for a while as I could use a macro lens. It has a collar too, doesn't it?
    Yes, it has, a detachable one. And it has a real lens hood. The one on the Nikkor 180 is convenient but far too short. Unfortunately, the lens has grown a bit since the previous version. It's now 1,150 grams.

    Here are some samples taken with the Sigma 150 and the SD1:

    http://www.sigma-photo.co.jp/english...mple-photo.htm

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I think that a pretty versatile lens for model work is the 105 micro
    -bob
    What's funny Bob is they don't have that on the list and that lens is one sharp puppy. Frankly I think the list is a little bias to the most expensive it's class
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    the 85/1.4G is brilliant...very sharp even wide open...and it has a gorgeous fall-off to the focus, and of course great bokeh. i really adore it. i'll have a tough time selling it off someday when nikon finally produces a 135/1.8 like the sony ZA. lol

    if you don't mind manual focus, the zeiss 100/2 is kind of mind blowing. blindingly sharp wide open, and incredibly dimensional looking. i was testing it around the same time i was testing MFD, and often mistook the two...and that was on a DX sensor.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    For me the 85 is the ticket as the 110 on my DF was which is about a 90. Here I may have to break down for the G as this is the money lens. I still think the 180 though regardless of charts. The Sigma 150 is just to short for the runway stuff I do now 4 times a year. Plus it's good for podium stuff with execs.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    I keep hearing that the 24-70 is not highly rated can anyone comment on that
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    I think the 24-70 is a fantastic lens!
    Is that comment enough Guy?

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Works for me . Just read some reviews and it looks good. I remember when it first came out it got a lot of good press. My last Nikon I think was a D300 so not so long ago. Well I have some time to chew on it all. No big hurry, I'm just not a big zoom guy. Never was really.
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    Personally, the 85mm f/1.4G and 24mm f1.4G are great lenses. The Nikon 24mm f1.4G may even be better than my Canon 24 f1.4L II lens, however, it is not far behind, the Canon 24mm TSE is way sharper but not a fast lens and no AF, I'm saying just for comparison. The 14-24 almost needs no comment, so I won't.

    Most Macro lenses are high resolving lenses, although I think my Nikon 105mm Macro VR is better than my Canon 100mm f2.8L IS II at the edges (no proof), but I was using the Nikon on 12MP FF and the Canon on the 22MP 5D2.

    I also feel Nikon's 70-200mm f2.8II is a very good lens, but again Canon's is better.

    Ultimately the point is if you are going Nikon, most of their newer lenses are very good, and you're going to use Nikon glass despite it being a tad inferior to some of the competition. We all know we don't need the best and most major brands, for example the Nikon N lenses, Sony Zeiss and G, and Canon L lenses being newer is better.

    I started out with the Nikon D700, and thought I'd save by using older lenses, but as soon as I made the jump, starting with the 24-70mmG, I replaced all my older glass. All the newer coating makes for a better overall look and control.

    Lastly, I felt the Nikon 35mm f1.4G is very boring compared the to Canon 35mm f1.4 and being an older lens due for a refresh, but is there another AF choice?

    Hope these quick comments help!

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Sounds good yea the 85 is the question . Sounds like the Sigma is also something to look at. I kind of need a good fashion lens in the 85. The 180 is a given. The 14-24 I would like to have as I know that is really good . I guess I can't escape the 35 1.4 than
    Just got a 14-24, and yeah - it's very good.
    I have an 85/1.8G on order with B&H.
    Will probably get a 35/2D and AIS 105/2.5, just because they're nice and inexpensive used.
    A 24-70/2.8 is in the cards once I sell off the Sony.
    And a 70-200/2.8 VR II.
    Probably a PC-E 45.
    And a 16 Fisheye.

    The Mamiya 645 APO 200/2.8 is a fine lens on the D7000 though a little long, and needs to be stopped down to f/5.6. It should really come into its own on the D800. The Macro 120/4 is very nice as well. Maybe I'll get a Mirex adapter for the 55/2.8 instead of a PC-E...

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    Yes, it has, a detachable one. And it has a real lens hood. The one on the Nikkor 180 is convenient but far too short. Unfortunately, the lens has grown a bit since the previous version. It's now 1,150 grams.

    Here are some samples taken with the Sigma 150 and the SD1:

    APO MACRO 150mm F2.8 EX DG OS HSM Sample Image Gallery - SIGMA CORPORATION
    Although 150mm may be a bit short, if sharpness across the frame is ultimately the objective, I found each sample of the Sigma I tested, superior for general shooting at all distances superior any sample of the Nikon 180mm f2.8 . The Sigma is this case is "that good" and has a rem,oveable tripod mount. To keep weight/size down, the non OS version would be an alternative to the current OS version. Used at macro range up to 1:1, it stands up to the best of them.

    A good kit would be:

    1. Nikon 14-24 f2.8
    2. Nikon 35mm f1.4
    3. Nikon 85mm f1.4 or Sigma 85mm f1.4 which is a good alternative but there is some sample variation. The new Nikon 85mm f1.8 looks promising from the files I've seen.
    4. Sigma 150mm f2.8 macro or if size/money is not a factor, the Nikon 200 f2 which is simply in the class of the near equivalent Leica R lens.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bob View Post
    I think that a pretty versatile lens for model work is the 105 micro
    -bob
    It's a good lens but i cant use it for portrait work- it's too slow to auto focus.
    Even with the focus limiter set to .5m its still slow.....
    Might be ok for static model work but if you are doing anything fast moving (a.k.a- a child) I would pass on it.

    But its sharp sharp sharp and very solidly made.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    What's funny Bob is they don't have that on the list and that lens is one sharp puppy. Frankly I think the list is a little bias to the most expensive it's class
    It's on the list alright, last one..... and yes, it's comparatively a bargain!

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    Thanks AaronI just went back and saw that. To many numbers today. Lol
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    What's funny Bob is they don't have that on the list and that lens is one sharp puppy. Frankly I think the list is a little bias to the most expensive it's class
    Isn't this one the last on the list?
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    Yes I missed it. My scanning was off. Lol
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    I am waiting for the first body to arrive. I just hope that my prime fix focal AF-D lenses will deliver at their ultimate f-stop setting.

    20 mm, 24 mm, 35 mm 50 mm, 85 mm.

    I will just wait and see when I have it.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jorgen Udvang View Post
    A very nice alternative to the 180/2.8 is the Sigma 150/2.8 macro. It's around the same size/weight and price, focuses faster, is weather sealed, has OS and obviously close focusing too. Yes, I know, it's a Sigma, but it's a good one.
    Just trolling this thread as I have an 800E on order

    I don't know if the optics have changed between the OS and pre-OS versions of the 150/2.8 sigma macro, but I have this in a HSM Canon mount and am very unimpressed. Yes, everyone said it was sharp when I purchased it. Stopped down it's decent, wide open I find it soft. I mean quite soft, using it for portraits at 2.8 it was too soft for my tastes, and I don't need pin-sharp for that kind of work, personally.

    So, if anyone else actually owns the lens, and can call it sharp, consider it, but if all you are hearing are rumors of sharpness, well, caveat emptor.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Yes, it's changed. There are more elements (19 vs 16) and it's heavier and longer. It's supposed to be sharper, but the old one had a good reputation too, except the sample variation that is a danger with all Sigma lenses. I haven't actually tried the new one though.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    For anyone not familiar with the amazing image quality of the 14-24, here is a convincing comparison at 14mm with a Canon 14L II (the site sells an adapter to use the 14-24 lens on Canon bodies).

    Nikon 14-24mm G Test v Canon 14mm L II
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by Lars Vinberg View Post
    For anyone not familiar with the amazing image quality of the 14-24, here is a convincing comparison at 14mm with a Canon 14L II (the site sells an adapter to use the 14-24 lens on Canon bodies).

    Nikon 14-24mm G Test v Canon 14mm L II
    Seriously, you could glue the 14-24 onto the D800 and your done.
    It's performance would be considered great for a prime, the fact that it's a zoom is almost ridiculous.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Quote Originally Posted by NicholasRab View Post
    Just trolling this thread as I have an 800E on order

    I don't know if the optics have changed between the OS and pre-OS versions of the 150/2.8 sigma macro, but I have this in a HSM Canon mount and am very unimpressed. Yes, everyone said it was sharp when I purchased it. Stopped down it's decent, wide open I find it soft. I mean quite soft, using it for portraits at 2.8 it was too soft for my tastes, and I don't need pin-sharp for that kind of work, personally.

    So, if anyone else actually owns the lens, and can call it sharp, consider it, but if all you are hearing are rumors of sharpness, well, caveat emptor.
    I've shot and tested more than one sample of both the original non OS version as well as the newer OS one. Optically they are very close and as most have found, exceptionally sharp wide open, whether at infinity or min distance. Again thats what most have also confirmed. I think as was mentioned here in this thread, with Sigma, it's often predicated on finding a good sample and although Sigma has improved its sample to sample variation, sub par lens samples are quite often found. It sounds like yours may have fallen into this group.

    As I wrote in a post above, the Sigma easily beat the Nikon 180 f2.8 at all f-stops thoughout normal focusing range.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    I have the 645D. I also ordered the D800E. Why? Because I have Nikon PC and PC-E lenses for the Nikon D3s for my architectural work and Pentax doesn't make one for the 645/D. The Hartblei alternative I tried was inferior. As to which lenses will work best on the D800, there is only one way to find out - use them. To judge anything from photos on line makes little sense. Nikon knows that we all have a significant investment in their glass. For them to produce a camera that makes their glass look inferior would be a major mistake. My guess is the current versions of their pro-oriented glass will perform just fine.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Just curious if anyone has any experience with the 16-35 F4 G
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    Just curious if anyone has any experience with the 16-35 F4 G
    Many love this lens (especially with it having "VR"), yet I may be the exception....but due to it's incredibly excessively "high" barrel distortion at 16mm (decreasing to approx 20-22mm), this lens was an instant "no-go" from the first time I was pressed into service using it for interior, close quarter group shots. Sure for landscapes it has decent-good sharpness (where often this distortion won't be an issue) and architectural straight lines in many cases can be fixed post processing...but as I wrote in a post a long time ago, attempt to use this lens in very close quarters with group shots, and you'll have the most interesting look of "aliens from outer space" than you can ever imagine. The distortion levels at the wide end exhibits some of the highest levels from any Nikon zoom! Yes, meticulous post processing did go a long way in bringing peoples head and bodies back to a degree of normalcy, but at the same time, the straight lines and objects in the room, then took on the appearance of a amusement funhouse (ie: the rest of the room appeared to be shot with a fisheye). If it was a matter of adjusting a few images at great length with a enormous amount of time in my particular situation, anything was possible, but not when the number of different but similar condition images amounted to well over 150 (and some of these individuals were national and internationally recognized people to make matters worse).

    Besides the superb Nikon 14-24, some samples (careful selection is required) of the older but particularly good Nikon 17-35mm f2.8 does well, but on a D800, might only hold up at around f8, especially at 17mm, it's weakest focal length until at least f4.5-5.6. Both these latter two lenses show little distortion and although the 17-35mm f2.8 is not in the same league as the 14-24, it is a pro level performing zoom when used on 12MP cameras, especially given it's attractive focal length range. I can't say how well it will hold up on the D800 but I think it's shortcomings on higher resolving cameras might be an issue.

    Putting aside for the moment the 16-35 VR lens's resolution performance level on the D800/D800e (and whether adaquate), the issue with this lens is it's intended use for partiuclar applications, and only the end user can answer if it's shortcomings will be an issue or not.

    That's my own personal take.
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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Thanks Dave it would be a people event lens and this sounds like a no go. I did read about the distortion. I'm just trying to figure out a good least costly lineup to start. I figured the Sigma 150 could work well for headshots and such than turn it into DX mode for a 227mm Runway lens. i get plenty of light on that since i control the program booth. LOL

    Than i was thinking the Sigma 85 1.4 for 3/4 length full length fashion stuff.

    The tricky part is below that for event crap. I wanted to go 14- 24 for stuff and 35mm for the people stuff. I just don't need a 35 1.4 costing 1800 bucks. I could go with the 24-70 and that seems to be a good option than 85, 150. Not worried about landscape since i am sporting my Phase back and tech cam so that is plenty of horsepower. Its normal commercial shooting is my area of concern with the Nikons. I have been through several Nikon stages in life and they do produce nice lenses.
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    Guy, if for example you mentioned that the wide angle zoom you were contemplating purchasing for your specific uses was going to be used on a D700/D3, then I would have instantly recommended a "good" sample of the venerable Nikon 17-35mm f2.8 lens. Other than all "good" samples being weak (quite soft corners etc.) at 17mm when used at f2.8 and a bit at f4, it's a consistant, sharp well performing lens at all other focal length and aperture settings. No it's not in the same calss as the 14-24, but is about the best performing wide angle full frame low distortion 35mm zoom that extends out to the 35mm focal length (where the 14-24 wouldn't be aplicable). It is though showing its age somewhat and although still a superb choice for 12MP cameras, it's somewhat of an uncertainty how it will hold its own on the D800, even at f8? Still, without resorting to the 35mm f1.4, I cannot see any other alternative zoom in this focal length range. The 24-70 f2.8 is very good, but that's one where there is also some sample variation, both in optics as well as mechanically.

    If the 24-70 f2.8 is chosen, then one would probably select both the 14-24 and 24-70, but for my particular application, unless I had each lens simultaniously on its own body, lens switching of both lenses using one body, along with the time constraints I had, made that impractical...therefore, a wide angle zoom was the only solution...fortunately or unfortunately. I had to be prepared to quickly have some focal length, usually varying quickly between 18-32mm, so a wide angle zoom had to be chosen as there wasn't adaquate room to move back (or forward) myself.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    I did like the 17-35 when I had it. It maybe fine for the event stuff.
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    I assume if using flash or if available light is sufficiently bright and you can keep the lens stopped down to at least f5.6/8, then for general applications when used on the D800e, it might be sufficient. Of course nothing substitutes for actually trying it out when the body is available. Again my recommendation is just be selective when choosing a given sample of the lens. Early on there were horendous sample to sample variation (saw this with my own testing) and some were simply close to the "canine" variety (and I do love dogs). It took a while for Nikon to sort this out (and there was more consistancy in production), but even on later runs, some seemed to be better than others.


    **** ADDITION: I forgot to mention...many samples of the 17-35mm f2.8 lens have the infamous AF-S motor squeek when using in autofocus mode (some even develope this shortly after being new out of the box). Often this meant costly Af-S motor replacement, while other samples go on squeeking to varying degrees for years). This being due to being one of the earliest designs of the Nikon AF-S motor.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Thanks Dave your help is well taken here. Appreciate your time.
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    My Pleasure Guy. I overlooked your mentioning of the Sigma 150mm f2.8 and 85mm f1.4 . As I and others have mentioned previously, a good sample (Sigma's lens samples have to be choosen carefully) the 150mm f2.8 is a fine lens, sharp and versitile. The non OS version (the one I use) is the smaller of the two but both have removeable tripod mount if needed. Keep in mind the AF-S type motor used in that lens is more of a slow methodical type, espcially when used at near macro range. It's no speed demon in that regard and may bother some, but is more like Nikon's currrent 50mm f1.4 AF-S lens which some complained was too slow. It's a lens though that I've shot with for years and have rarely been disappointed in.

    I only shot with Sigma's new 85mm f1.4 for a very short time, so take my comments with a grain of salt. I felt it was very close to being on-par with Nikon's 85mm f1.4 AF-S in color, sharpnmess and bokeh and certainly an absolute best buy if both are compared. Slight differences existed but it was more a matter of taste than anything else. For a time, there was the ability to get more than $100.00 off this lens from some dealers, making it a steal (in that catagory of lens). I don't beleive that deal is available anymore. Nikon's lens resale if one ever sells them of course much higher, so that may be a factor.

    As you know Guy, the new Nikon 85mm f1.8 AF-S lens has thrown a bit of a monkey wrench into that choice of lenses in that focal length, since it appears from most accounts to be very good in many aspects, especially compared to the not very attractive bokeh of its predecessor. Its compact in size when compared to the others if thats a consideration. I haven't shot with it though, but it's price/performance appears to be quite competitive.

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    Re: What Lenses for the D800?

    Yes been looking at the Nikon 1.8 too and just not sure on it yet. Little new right now, like to hear on the D800 first on it. I think the Sigma is a safe bet right out of the gate ready to shoot though, reason I figured I can't go wrong. I still have my Sony to cover me until the D800 but it will be sell Sony get Nikon lenses as soon as the D800 is in hand.
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