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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    BTW the last one I used live view. Like the Phase back or any live view you can keep it. I'm just not a big fan as some might be. It works its nice but its not my style.
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    Looking very good. Those files processed in NX look great.

    Guy can you comment on Live View focusing.

    In particular the refresh rate when manually focusing with enlarged detail on the screen.

    Also how good is the live view focusing.

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    Fred its pretty good and don't want to downplay it too much. Its much better than my Phase that is for sure. Magnified view does work , its the refresh rate one must get used too. Let me play with it some more and see if it grows on me. It does work though
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    I did finally get the chance to shoot the new 50 1.8 G which the cost on this is really low like 229.00. Well don't let the cost fool ya its pretty damn sharp.

    3 images here at 3 different apertures 1.8,3.5 and F8

    wide open at 1.8



    F3.5



    F8



    At this price almost silly not to have it in the corner of your bag. You need sharp wide open this can do it. Its has no look to it except sharp but maybe nice to have reason i bought it.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    That's been my experience with the 50/1.8G on the D2X and D700 also Guy. I'm glad to hear it works pretty well on the D800 too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    I got it further down but tried from getting it too wonky looking.

    Here is the raw
    What the heck I'll take a crack at it. This is one of those files I normally might work up a few times before really getting it right though.

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    ps, if you double click it you get a bigger image on a new page.
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    Interesting transformation here. Tried the 3d Lighting in NX than brought into CS5 and worked it.

    default image



    corrected



    Pays to have those extra pixels to play with
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    One way to ruin a image is put silly things in a historical site. This was the original jail in Jerome during the copper mining days many years ago. This was a great place to shoot but this ruined it. I do like how the Nikon handled the tones here.

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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    The little 50 looks pretty darn good!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    The little 50 looks pretty darn good!!!
    +1. I plan to get it if I find one. Also plan for the AF-S 85mm f/1.8G.
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    Uwe the 85 is really nice, it's a keeper.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Last lens I need to go work is the 180 so I can see if it is going to work out. It's better than I thought at first on the 800.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Here this is the 85 1.4 G at F8





    14-24 at 24mm at F8

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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    This is little Jack not to be confused by big Jack. LOL

    I had a grand total of 3 seconds to shoot this. Kids holding still for photos is near impossible . Anyway very early light 7:20 before school and nice harsh AZ. sun which is just blazing as you can see but I love torture testing. Shot with the 85 1.4G at F5 processed in NX2.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    This was a great place to shoot but this ruined it.
    One person's "ruined" is another person's "interesting."

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    Amazing (especially at this light).
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Yes held up very nicely and the skin tones on him look just about perfect. So this looks good when you have great light. I'm still fine tuning sharpening stuff its about my last thing I want to get down good and it might best be done in CS5 than these raw converters.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Lets try this in ACR with camera portrait profile and this looks good and sharpening much nicer.






    Okay in ACR sharpening settings on this are
    A 71, R.06, D 15, M8
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Sharpening looks much better in the ACR file.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    ACR first than NX



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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Try the crops next to each other make it easier

    ACR than NX



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    Could we get the raw?
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Yes just don't post this one but here please. Uwe you can use on your site if needed.

    https://www.yousendit.com/dl?phi_act...UENoeWEwYjhUQw
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    thanks
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    I hate to say it but that shot looks very MF to me, especially in NX...

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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Interesting, but to my eyes I prefer the ACR version over the NX version. I am seeing subtly better skin tone and I prefer the way the eyebrow and lash hairs are rendered in ACR, at least on my monitor...


    BTW, just a small rant, but I am tempted to start a thread on the "Stupid List" for the D800.

    Mt first vote would be they included 1.2x, 1.5x and 5:4 crop ratios built right into the camera along with finder frame lines to match, but NO EFFING 4:3 crop!!!

    In case Nikon (and Canon and Leica -- AND it was effing Leica's fault to begin with!) have not heard, 4:3 *IS* the new frame standard!

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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Found two more images from the other day both with the 14-24. Guess you can tell I like this lens.



    Had a little fun processing this one

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    Btw and I forgot to mention this we do NOT have green grass here. Unless your on a golf course it is very biased yellow. This ain't Kentucky blue folks .
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    >Unless your on a golf course it is very biased yellow.

    Same here with the spring grass
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Quote Originally Posted by ustein View Post
    +1. I plan to get it if I find one. Also plan for the AF-S 85mm f/1.8G.
    Both very good, from my limited experience....at least on the D700.

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    I now know why the D800 is priced very reasonable. They could give it away for free and sell all new glass :-)
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    I now know why the D800 is priced very reasonable. They could give it away for free and sell all new glass :-)
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    That is pretty funny. Well I'm kind of done testing this thing out. I need to try the flash setup and would love to get this in the studio with a model but anything else you folks like me to try let me know. I really hope this was helpful to folks waiting to get them or wanting too. It's a nice setup and yes it is getting closer to the ball park with MF but it's not MF and MF is not Nikon. If your planning on buying into a MF system this really changes nothing in a lot of ways. But it does get closer and that's the real reality. I'm fortunate enough to have both and I really upped my 35 system and that makes me happy.
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    Guy,

    your shots and this discussion are both very helpful. Now lets take pictures :-).
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    I agree Uwe and folks please check out what Uwe is doing on his site as well. Uwe is a good friend of GetDPI and also a personal friend of Jack and myself. Not to mention some of our mods as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    That is pretty funny. Well I'm kind of done testing this thing out. I need to try the flash setup and would love to get this in the studio with a model but anything else you folks like me to try let me know. I really hope this was helpful to folks waiting to get them or wanting too. It's a nice setup and yes it is getting closer to the ball park with MF but it's not MF and MF is not Nikon. If your planning on buying into a MF system this really changes nothing in a lot of ways. But it does get closer and that's the real reality. I'm fortunate enough to have both and I really upped my 35 system and that makes me happy.
    This sums it up very nicely Guy. The amount of testing and discussions that youself, Jack and others initiated and contributed greatly to, was an exceptional introduction to what is turning out to be an extremely fine camera. Examples and comparisons that followed were greatly appreciated.

    I believe at this point, some individuals who anticipate using this camera, may have very specific uses for the D800. Whether it will fit the bill and be able to perform adaquately for those specific and often times demanding situations that might push the capabilites of this camera to say where a D3/D3s/D4 might have normally been employed but a much bigger file size is required, is something that thats yet to be adaquately determined. In other words, whether certain performance or image charateristics compromises can be accepted, in order to get a very useable larger file size is yet to be explored. No doubt, interesting times ahead for this camera.

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    >is getting closer to the ball park with MF but it's not MF and MF is not Nikon.

    Image quality is one aspect. On the other side smaller cameras allow more flexibility. I am a 35mm shooter since over 40 years and love the flexibility. The means I can check and execute many different angles in a few seconds (meaning handheld). At times I love the tripod too but it is more static. Having this detail from the 35mm camera is more than I ever expected. Horses for courses.

    I like the approach by Guy to show how his tools work for the job at hand. Both MF and the 35mm cameras have their place.
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    The flexibility of a 35 cam is the huge plus for them. No question about it.
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    Also please folks as your cams come in tag on in and give us your thoughts. This is a great data bank we have on this and the more the better. I honestly would like to get the E version as well at some point in time. Hopefully they will ship soon so we can see what that can do.
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    >I honestly would like to get the E version as well at some point in time.

    Same here, I hardly can wait to get my hands on one.
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    Little plug here for Camera West for getting me a D800 under such short notice. These folks are awesome and have a great product line of gear. Also the best Leica display I have seen anywhere. So kudos to Sean and his crew. They are a site sponsor so please check them out for your photo needs.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    It's a nice setup and yes it is getting closer to the ball park with MF but it's not MF and MF is not Nikon. If your planning on buying into a MF system this really changes nothing in a lot of ways. But it does get closer and that's the real reality.
    I think what the D800 may change is the resale value of older MF digital backs. All things considered, the results I've seen from the D800 images posted here, together with the ergonomic advantages of a 35mm DSLR. I have a feeling that the resale value of my Hasselblad CFV-16II is falling even as I write this post. I hope I'm wrong.....just glad I'm not planning to sell it anytime soon.

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    Gary,
    You may be right, but when I look at some very large images then I'm not so impressed: http://www.naturalart.ca/images/test...24_FullRes.jpg
    Just too much CA for my taste. Also the reported loss in sharpness post f8 is disconcerting.
    A lot of Nikon glass didn't handle the D3X well...
    At the moment I'm sticking to my HB - and if anybody wants to trade their CFV-50 for a D800 - just contact me
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    And anybody that wants to trade a P45+ for a D800, contact *ME* !!!

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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    I just received my 14-24 yesterday and have the 800e on backorder...while the 14-24 is heavy for a wide angle lens, on the Nikon it will still be about 2 lbs lighter than my H2 and phase 65 plus with the 50 wide angle lens. Has anyone had any experience comparing the Nikkor 85 to the nikkor 105 VR in reference to micro detail and sharpness, say for landscape work? Eleanor

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Mancuso View Post
    Also please folks as your cams come in tag on in and give us your thoughts. This is a great data bank we have on this and the more the better. I honestly would like to get the E version as well at some point in time. Hopefully they will ship soon so we can see what that can do.

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    >Has anyone had any experience comparing the Nikkor 85 to the nikkor 105 VR in reference to micro detail and sharpness, say for landscape work?

    Would be interested too.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Great question Eleanor , I guess for you really the question would be which is best at infinity. I know the 85 is really good here but the 105 being a macro usually they are designed for tight work and in a lot of cases don't do infinity real well. I don't have a definitive answer for you just usually that is the case. I know from reports the 105 is really good just not sure at the infinity level. Also a option which I want to explore myself at some point is some of the Zeiss glass. Some are really good like there 100 macro I believe it is and I know the 21 is outstanding . Now of course they are manual focus but having some specialized lenses like this I can deal with. For a landscape shooter only this is something worth looking at since you have the time to focus. Myself I need AF for certain work but for some gigs I can easily look at manual especially with live view handy.

    BTW and I forgot to bring this up but most of my shots here are handheld so quality WILL go up being on tripod and mirror up. When I did shoot both the phase and D800 I was tripod bound and mirror up on those comparisons.
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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    Bottom line for me having the Nikon instead of having the DF makes sense for me since the IQ 160 is hanging off the tech cam. Bottom line I can cheat a little with the Nikon since most Jobs I don't need the 160 but I do have it when I need it. I'm just not wanting to support 3 separate bodies and all the glass that goes with it. So I decided to cut 12 grand out of the equation and try this. But this is me with many diverse projects. If I need the DF it's a fed-x away to rent. I will do that given a job that needs it. Renting bodies and lenses is basically very cheap so I decided to play the renting game when it comes up . My DF kit after getting the tech cam kit sat for a long time. Having gear sitting in my safe drives me nuts.
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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    Re: Nikon D800 First Blush

    I don't have a newer 85mm lens but use the 105mm f/2.8 VR. Here is a raw file close to infinity:

    http://jirvana.outbackphoto.com/publ...4D800_0439.NEF

    The link may expire in some days.

    This is a cropped version:



    Sorry for the large copyright mark. But this is a link to my Field Report gallery with also higher resolution versions. Download the Raw and try yourself.
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    Thanks Uwe and I can shoot a infinity shot to load up as well on the 85. I'll look for one today. I think I have one from the marina scene
    Photography is all about experimentation and without it you will never learn art.

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